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pampango

(24,692 posts)
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 07:47 AM Jun 2012

Jeb: Neither Reagan or George H. W. Bush Could Be Nominated by Republicans Today

Jeb Bush Off Message? Says Neither Reagan or George H. W. Bush Could Be Nominated by Republicans Today

Jeb Bush, who seemingly takes after his father more than his brother, made some big political waves today — waves that could impact some voters in 2012 and beyond:

Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush said today that both Ronald Reagan and his father George H. W. Bush would have had a difficult time getting nominated by today’s ultra-conservative Republican Party.


Note that this is NOT something others have not said. Many moderates have noted the same thing.

Bush cited, in particular, “the budget deal my dad did, with bipartisan support — at least for a while — that created the spending restraint of the ‘90s,” a reference to a move widely viewed now as a political disaster for Bush, breaking a pledge against tax increases and infuriating conservatives. It was, Bush said, “helpful in creating a climate of more sustainted economic growth.”


His defense of his father’s tax compromise means he’ll have some enemies in the GOP if he seeks the nomination at a later date.

http://themoderatevoice.com/149463/jeb-bush-off-message-says-neither-reagan-or-george-h-w-bush-could-be-nominated-by-republicans-today/

While I appreciate Jeb disparaging the teapublicans' influence on the GOP, he probably just threw himself under the bus as well. If it prevents him from getting a future nomination so much the better.
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Jeb: Neither Reagan or George H. W. Bush Could Be Nominated by Republicans Today (Original Post) pampango Jun 2012 OP
That is a lie NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #1
Neither of them should have been nominated in the first place. sofa king Jun 2012 #2
"Threw himself under the bus" is a temporary thing... JHB Jun 2012 #3
Something is afoot turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #4
Yeah Jeb appears to be up to something. It is possible he has decided he can never yellowcanine Jun 2012 #6
But what is Sununu up to turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #7
I wondered aloud last night about that... sofa king Jun 2012 #9
Good cop/bad cop bloomington-lib Jun 2012 #5
He's as crooked as every other Bush male. hifiguy Jun 2012 #8

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
1. That is a lie
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 07:51 AM
Jun 2012

Both of them were using the same racist dog whistles every time I listened to them talk.

They are the fuck heads who started this divisive language.

Don

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
2. Neither of them should have been nominated in the first place.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 07:54 AM
Jun 2012

Neither had the intellectual capacity for the job, and both caused internal crises by their indifference and lack of understanding. By delegating their authority to the criminals who destroyed this country, both of them contributed more than anyone else to today's state of affairs. One of them failed to create a net new job in eight years.

And Jeb will make it worse in 2017 if he gets close enough to steal it.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
3. "Threw himself under the bus" is a temporary thing...
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 07:58 AM
Jun 2012

...My guess is that he's hopping off that bus because he's betting it's not going to end up anywhere that will do him any good. If he's scenting that a teabagger flameout will break the hold of the anti-tax fanatics on his party, he's positioning himself as the "reasonable conservative" the rest can gather around.

turtlerescue1

(1,013 posts)
4. Something is afoot
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 08:25 AM
Jun 2012

Jeb and his words, Sununu back in the news and today Lindsey Graham "view" on Grover's pledge.

Oh to be a fly on the walls. Who does Koch back? If I could stomach Faux not even the news, would listen. A House divided...one can hope eh?

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
6. Yeah Jeb appears to be up to something. It is possible he has decided he can never
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:42 AM
Jun 2012

get nominated by today's Republican Party so he has nothing to lose by speaking his mind.

turtlerescue1

(1,013 posts)
7. But what is Sununu up to
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:54 PM
Jun 2012

and Lindsey Graham? Ya know when the other guys speak with "forked tongue", the rest of us need to know if forks are in a dispute...that we may CYAs or benefit from.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
9. I wondered aloud last night about that...
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 05:35 PM
Jun 2012

I suggested that the people who control the GOP, like Jeb, may have decided that they have forever besmirched the Republican brand, and now it's time to leave the loons holding that bag of shite while the smart and evil people who fucked up the GOP break off and found a new party which is not directly responsible for stealing the future of 200 million Americans.

Pretending to be moderate works even better for Jeb in particular, who wants Romney elected just as little as any of us, and who has to distance himself from his own record as well as his brother's. If Romney ever shows a lick of potential in this race, Jeb can break off as an independent after the convention and split the vote, then found the "New Criminal Party," entice DC Republicans to jump ship before the mid-terms of 2014, and automatically sew up his nomination as the leader of the New Criminals in 2016 while the whackos die off from self inflicted gun wounds and snake bites (and no health care).

I have also said for a year and a half now that the President's tax-cut rope-a-dope was designed to show Republican voters that they can pay themselves by not voting at all in this election and the next one, which in turn is a plan not for winning his own reelection, but for the total eclipse of the GOP, also by 2014.

It could be just the usual "pretend you're a moderate" positioning (which Mitt Romney also did after McCain beat him in '08), but I think Jeb sees the writing on the wall now, too.

It's not going to work, though. The Democratic Party is the moderate right-wing party in the US, and they're not going to hand that over to Jeb. The only room left in the political spectrum is on the completely empty left side.





 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
8. He's as crooked as every other Bush male.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 01:01 PM
Jun 2012

He's positioning himself to be the "moderate" savior after the baggers are trounced.

Never trust a Bush, ANY Bush, further than you can throw your car. That evil family should be permanently extirpated, root and branch, from the public life of this country.

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