The Numbers

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http://blogs.detroitnews.com/politics/2012/06/10/were-living-in-a-gop-economy/

Jun 10, 2012, 7:10 pm Campaign 2012 | National Politics
We're living in a GOP economy
By Libby Spencer

Republicans are basing their entire re-election strategy on pinning the blame for the residual effects of their own failed policies on President Obama. They repeatedly claim that President Obama’s economic policies have failed, but the fact is, Obama’s policies weren’t ever really enacted. Thanks to the GOP’s strategy of sustained hostage taking over nearly every single piece of legislation, the GOP still owns our economic policy. Don’t believe me? Well, let’s review the record:

Look first at total government spending — federal, state and local. Adjusted for population growth and inflation, such spending has recently been falling at a rate not seen since the demobilization that followed the Korean War.

How is that possible? Isn’t Mr. Obama a big spender? Actually, no; there was a brief burst of spending in late 2009 and early 2010 as the stimulus kicked in, but that boost is long behind us. Since then it has been all downhill. Cash-strapped state and local governments have laid off teachers, firefighters and police officers; meanwhile, unemployment benefits have been trailing off even though unemployment remains extremely high.

[KansDem]

1. Can't argue with the numbers!

However, the rabid Republican will claim the tax bills were introduced to assist the "job creators" when in fact they were designed to help move more wealth to the 1%-ers at the expense of the middle and working class.

[tclambert]

2. Sure they can. "What I believe still makes sense to me."

They just assume there is something wrong with the numbers. I once cited numbers from an encyclopedia, an almanac, and a few non-fiction books on the particular subject to prove he recalled some event incorrectly, and this conservative dismissed all my inconvenient facts with a "Well, encyclopedias often have a liberal bias. I'm sticking with what I personally remember."

The subject was the Vietnam War. He insisted that the Democratic majority in Congress forced America to abandon South Vietnam over Richard Nixon's objections. He claimed they passed a bill in 1973 that made it happen, pretty much all at once. I said, "Wait, what about Nixon's policy of Vietnamization? He announced it in June of 1969, just a few months after he took office, and gradually drew down the number of American forces in Vietnam over the next few years." That's where I looked up the numbers and gave references. He basically accused me of making up the term Vietnamization. I cited a dictionary for that one. Who knew Merriam-Webster had a liberal bias?

I do believe data and science win the arguments eventually. But it took 400 years for the Catholic Church to apologize about the Galileo thing.

[BumRushDaShow]

3. This should be a tv ad

that runs in every media market, over and over, ad nauseum.

[Iliyah]

4. That needs to go viral

although goppers won't believe it thats how closed minded they are.

[sadbear]

5. Republicans will respond that all 522 taxation bills are jobs bills

[Skittles]

6. that's like saying the abortion bills are pro-women