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Prometheus sucked... (Original Post) Demonaut Jun 2012 OP
So it's your average movie. HuckleB Jun 2012 #1
Sorry to hear that. Frank Cannon Jun 2012 #2
Miscast how? dogknob Jun 2012 #4
I'm going to guess that Snow White was miscast. MissB Jun 2012 #5
And you'd be right. Frank Cannon Jun 2012 #10
Kristen Stewart Frank Cannon Jun 2012 #8
she is absolutely awful Skittles Jun 2012 #12
Maybe she'll be like Nicole Kidman. Frank Cannon Jun 2012 #17
We'll have to put up with here as long as the twilight gush continues... Javaman Jun 2012 #35
Movie was very good except for Kristen Stewart Nancy Waterman Jun 2012 #47
They should have cast Amy Adams from the movie "Enchanted," she blew me away with her acting Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #48
I agree. sh80 Jul 2012 #49
I agree. And I haven't even seen it yet. Speck Tater Jun 2012 #16
To defend Ms. Stewart Xyzse Jun 2012 #45
What was the miscast? lookingfortruth Jun 2012 #27
I liked it..even though Thor's attempt at a Scottish brogue was laughable... truebrit71 Jun 2012 #44
I am not into dark sci-fi but felt it did a good job taking on some big philosophical questions Quixote1818 Jun 2012 #3
Also... Sprach Zarathustra WillyT Jun 2012 #6
I thought this guy had some interesting points Quixote1818 Jun 2012 #7
agreed ibegurpard Jun 2012 #18
This guy is great... trumad Jun 2012 #29
I found this review to be pretty decent and insightful SaB2012 Jun 2012 #9
It is. Thanks for the link! n/t Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #11
I actually thought a lot of the dumb things people did is exactly what a corporate crew would do Quixote1818 Jun 2012 #15
too long a review............succinctly...it sucked Demonaut Jun 2012 #19
Yeah, I read that review earlier today and found it mostly spot-on. nt Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #21
Can't go wrong with Rotten Tomatoes critic & audience reviews. Here: FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #23
I didn't really like it either EarlG Jun 2012 #13
Hey,he gave us fire. Swede Jun 2012 #14
Is PROMETHEUS SUCKED the sequel the Atlas Shrugged? cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #20
LOL. But don't you mean 'Anthem?' RZM Jun 2012 #22
Prometheus and Atlas were brothers muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #26
They're moons of Saturn, too. sofa king Jun 2012 #33
I didn't like it. calimary Jun 2012 #24
It was a great comedy thelordofhell Jun 2012 #25
Here's a review by an archaeologist muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #28
That review is long, hilarious, and absolutely spot-on! ljm2002 Jun 2012 #32
I haven't seen it, but it does sound ripe for the Mystery Science Theater 3000 treatment (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #38
Having just read it, and as someone that enjoyed the film I have to agree... truebrit71 Jun 2012 #39
Jesus, I need to start watching movies with that guy Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #42
I thought it was great. And I'm not an action movie lover, as a rule. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #30
It lacked suspense, but... JHB Jun 2012 #31
you're right, it did lack suspense. Javaman Jun 2012 #36
Here's an interesting blog on the movie. it's worth reading... Javaman Jun 2012 #34
That was a great read! Thanks. nt Quixote1818 Jun 2012 #43
I disagree...thought it was definitely a B+ truebrit71 Jun 2012 #37
I'm saving my money for that Abe Lincoln Vampire Hunter Flick. Ganja Ninja Jun 2012 #40
Thanks for saving me 10 bucks Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #41
I watched Alien (1979) in hd over the weekend. I really love the real models, old-school special fx Romulox Jun 2012 #46

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
2. Sorry to hear that.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:33 PM
Jun 2012

I wanted to see it so badly, but my wife and I settled on Snow White and the Huntsman. That would have been a five-star movie if it hadn't been miscast.

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
4. Miscast how?
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:35 PM
Jun 2012

I haven't seen it yet, but I'm pretty excited about Eddie Izzard, Ian McShane and Bob Hoskins as dwarves.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
10. And you'd be right.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:00 AM
Jun 2012

There must have been a thousand actresses who could have pulled that role off better than Ms. Stewart did. But I guess they were targeting a certain demographic.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
8. Kristen Stewart
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:47 PM
Jun 2012

I so much wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt. I thought that she's a terrible actress in the Twilight movies only because her character is terribly written in them. But, alas, she really is a terrible actress. And she just didn't work in this character.

And that sucks. Because the movie was terrific, except for her. And it makes me sad to say that.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
17. Maybe she'll be like Nicole Kidman.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:43 AM
Jun 2012

I used to think Nicole Kidman was a terrible actress, and I couldn't understand why she was in so many movies. Then she did "To Die For" and my mind was blown. So maybe Kristen will surprise us all once she grows up.

But somehow I doubt it.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
35. We'll have to put up with here as long as the twilight gush continues...
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:17 AM
Jun 2012

once that has finally run it's course aka the teens finally grow up, then she will be shuffled off to supporting roles, b films or into the dreaded dungeon of schlock.

Nancy Waterman

(6,407 posts)
47. Movie was very good except for Kristen Stewart
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:55 PM
Jun 2012

There is an emotionally flat quality to her that is areal turn-off. She absolutely did not fit in the role
of a loving and "pure" young snow white. Big ICK factor.

Uncle Joe

(58,363 posts)
48. They should have cast Amy Adams from the movie "Enchanted," she blew me away with her acting
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 01:04 PM
Jun 2012

if you're looking for "loving and pure" Amy would've knocked it out of the park.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enchanted_(film)

sh80

(1 post)
49. I agree.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 11:31 AM
Jul 2012

Apart from the pure factor, there had to be a ballsiness to Snow White as represented in this script. I think a young Kate Winslet could have pulled off this look. Or even Rooney Mara, for instance.

 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
16. I agree. And I haven't even seen it yet.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:36 AM
Jun 2012

The movie sounded like fun until I saw her in the previews and thought, "Nope. Not going to bother with that one."

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
45. To defend Ms. Stewart
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:43 PM
Jun 2012

That though I agree that she is just not a good actress... I must admit that her indie choices are done well.
She didn't do too badly in the Runaways, and her as this jail-bait singer in "In to the Wild" was done well. She has done courageous movie choices like "Welcome to the Rileys" but, even then, I don't like her acting, I'd still have to give her some credit for her independent movie choices.

Saying that, crud, I have to admit that I got to see that movie largely in part to the South African Beauty named Charlize Theron and Thor. However, I blame watching this dreck to a friend who wanted to see it.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
44. I liked it..even though Thor's attempt at a Scottish brogue was laughable...
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:43 PM
Jun 2012

...loved the dwarves, just wish they'd shown up earlier, and Charlize Theron was absolutely brilliant as the wicked Queen...

Quixote1818

(28,937 posts)
3. I am not into dark sci-fi but felt it did a good job taking on some big philosophical questions
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:34 PM
Jun 2012


This clip hits on one of them:

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
18. agreed
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:59 AM
Jun 2012

it started to come off the tracks a bit once they got to the planet and things started to go wrong but overall I enjoyed it quite a bit.

Quixote1818

(28,937 posts)
15. I actually thought a lot of the dumb things people did is exactly what a corporate crew would do
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:20 AM
Jun 2012

This was not a NASA crew of top notch scientists with good leadership, it was a mix of people with different agenda's who ended up causing really bad group cohesion and the kind of problems you would see with poor leadership and people who were very different, some just there for the money. I also think the scientists would most certainly want to bring back part of the alien into the ship and study it.

As far as touching the black goo, that was Dave the robot who was following his master who was willing to take a lot of chances with everyone else's lives because it was really all about ONLY saving his.

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
23. Can't go wrong with Rotten Tomatoes critic & audience reviews. Here:
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 01:34 AM
Jun 2012
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/prometheus_2012/

Before I see almost any movie I read Rotten Tomatoes reviews. Saved tons of money.

EarlG

(21,949 posts)
13. I didn't really like it either
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:07 AM
Jun 2012

It was weird though... there were parts I liked, and I mostly enjoyed watching the movie, despite some real groaners in the script where characters would just do the dumbest things. Visually, it was great. I was pretty absorbed in it during the first half and there were some cool scenes scattered throughout. But when it ended I couldn't help feeling like I'd just wasted two hours.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
22. LOL. But don't you mean 'Anthem?'
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 01:28 AM
Jun 2012

I haven't read 'Atlas Shrugged,' but I did read 'Anthem' in HS English class. I believe that's the one with the Prometheus reference, though maybe it's in AS too.

calimary

(81,267 posts)
24. I didn't like it.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 01:59 AM
Jun 2012

But I'm one of those who doesn't enjoy seeing gruesome gooey slimy snakey aliens popping out of people or burrowing into people.

I like movies where I don't feel compelled to close my eyes while the movie's playing.

I know. Just weird and out of it.

I didn't like "Alien" either. Just not my kind of film. After it was over, I turned to my male friends and said "next time we do this, it better be a chick flick."

muriel_volestrangler

(101,318 posts)
28. Here's a review by an archaeologist
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:35 AM
Jun 2012

who has a bone or two to pick with the spaceship budget:

Fassbender cycles around the spaceship, throwing basketballs into hoops and watching documentaries. You get a feel for the size of the spaceship, and his lonely existence within it. For a crew of less than ten people, the financiers and engineers behind the expedition have sensibly decided that creating a space-ship the size of a cathedral would be a good idea. Presumably neglecting to install an off switch for a robot was just one of those costs they had to cut to make the whole thing possible. To pass the time he likes watching old films and learning languages. We like him. That’s even before all the humans wake up and prove to be barking mad or arseholes. Or barking mad arseholes.
...
The first duty of the captain is, naturally, to decorate the Christmas tree. Because it’s Christmas apparently. Charlize Theron reminds him that there is a mission briefing. He informs her that he has yet to have breakfast. He’s been asleep for two years, and decides to decorate a Christmas tree (while smoking a cigar in a closed environment) before he has breakfast. We realise that the crew selection procedure was yet another casualty of the cuts required to ensure that they had a sodding big spaceship (SBS from here on in).

At the breakfast table a rather nice biologist (played by Raef Spall, son of Timothy) introduces himself to a grumpy geologist, who is very rude. Later on, he confirms he’s the geologist, by shouting “I’m a geologist, I fucking love rocks!” as if that was the most pressing point that needed explaining. But we’re getting ahead of ourselves. The current point that needs explaining is the implication that these two crew members have managed to make it this far without actually meeting each other, and are plainly incompatible. It seems that at least one part of the crew selection procedure took the form of a raffle at an arsehole convention.

The crew is gathered. Two of the chaps at the front are betting that it’s a terraforming expedition. Apparently they don’t know why they’re here either. You’d think they’d shown a little curiosity when, for instance, they were packing and saying goodbye to their loved ones. Or climbing on board the SBS. Or going into suspended animation. But no.

http://digitaldigging.net/prometheus-an-archaeological-perspective/


ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
32. That review is long, hilarious, and absolutely spot-on!
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 08:14 AM
Jun 2012

I can't for the life of me figure out how such a poor script got funded at all, much less used as the basis for a blockbuster sci-fi film.

It would have been okay if the film had been moody and not fully action-packed. I love philosophical asides and slow building plots. The special effects were great and could have covered a multitude of sins. Unfortunately, they could not cover the absolute deluge of bad dialog, plot holes, randomly illogical behavior, and wooden acting by all except Fassbender as the android.

Wait for it to come out on DVD, it's good for more than a few laughs if you're with someone else who still has some critical faculties left. As for me, I went to see it by myself, and boy do I wish I could get my money back. Not to mention the 2 hours.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
39. Having just read it, and as someone that enjoyed the film I have to agree...
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:35 AM
Jun 2012

...the review is hilarious...I still thought the movie was okay though...

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
42. Jesus, I need to start watching movies with that guy
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:23 PM
Jun 2012

Friends hate watching with me, because I'm one of those world-class Lt. Columbo-question-asking plot hole sleuths...

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
30. I thought it was great. And I'm not an action movie lover, as a rule.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 07:52 AM
Jun 2012

Maybe it has to do with expectations. I hadn't read any reviews and didn't have great expectations, when I went. I didn't know it was maybe a prequel to Alien. I just noticed that the "thing" reminded me of Alien, as well as a couple of other things in the movie.

I thought it was a great movie experience, overall.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
31. It lacked suspense, but...
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 08:06 AM
Jun 2012

...I did like the implicit point about gazillionaire assholes taking it as their due that they can sacrifice everybody to advance their pet projects.

Having failed to buy the basic premise, the rest was just pretty effects and not much else.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
36. you're right, it did lack suspense.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:38 AM
Jun 2012

it was too ponderous. And any suspense that did occur was quickly extinguished by inanity.

The bottom line to me, the Alien Franchise was built on horror and corporate greed. While the corporate greed was still centered in this film, the horror aspect was severely blunted because there was nothing to be afraid of at all.

The one and only really chance at suspense was when the two crew members were left behind in the "temple" and they were killed off way too quickly, with nothing to show for it.

They found the dead guys but then nothing happened.

When the one crew member becomes sick and starts attacking the others, I first thought it was the one of the guys that was left in the temple not one of the hero's. That point in the movie was very muddy and had very weak story telling.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
34. Here's an interesting blog on the movie. it's worth reading...
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:14 AM
Jun 2012

that said, I saw the movie.

While I won't say it sucked, it wasn't what I would call a great movie. It was just okay.

Scott, I think, was going for subtle and instead got obtuse.

Here's the blog...

http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html

on edit: my personal take was, it was too much like the first Alien movie. Way to many similarities. It struck me as a retread in many ways. I thought much of the character development lacked. Endless clumsy dialogue that went no where with no point other than pondering philosophical what if's.

The problem as I see it is pretty basic: the franchise as it stands is action oriented based upon corporate greed. However, Scott has tried to take the whole concept of the Aliens and set it on it's head by establishing a whole new story arch with the "engineers" and how they were responsible for humanities creation. While that might be a very interesting concept to pursue, I found it's execution very ham-handed. It's a story for it's own movie and not to be muddied into the Alien mythos. At least not in the way Scott dealt with it. Frankly, what he should have done was expand the concept to fully flush it out and break it into two films. A 2 hour film for what he wanted to achieve was way too short and, what I believe, left out a lot of the story.

There was so much wrong from a story telling point of view, I don't even know where to begin, but that said, I'm sure there will be a sequel and perhaps that will give us more of the mythos that Scott is trying to convey.

My deeper understanding as to what Scott was trying to create with this movie was only fully comprehended when I read the above blog. Sadly, if a movie requires a second explanation after the fact, then the movie failed.

If however this is a new trend in filmmaking where you have to read background material prior to or after a film, then that is vastly different and frankly bad in my opinion, but given internet marketing these days, if done correctly, than it could be a clever angle, sadly, this is not that film nor that marketing tactic.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
37. I disagree...thought it was definitely a B+
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:53 AM
Jun 2012

...which in this day and age of interminable Adam Sandler flicks, Vampire romances, and relentless cartoon/super-hero sequels, here was a movie that really tried to stand out...and it succeeded...sort of...

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
46. I watched Alien (1979) in hd over the weekend. I really love the real models, old-school special fx
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:50 PM
Jun 2012

I want to see Prometheus, but my mind gags on too much greenscreen/CG.

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