As a liberal should i just put up

[Riftaxe]

with what is politically convenient?

One of the reasons our party has no traction, is that the part we went out to the streets to demand common decency is no longer even given pause by either party.

Looking at donation records available, exactly where you would expect us filthy liberals to go?

We not matter in Democratic party or Republician in the end, which is a shame, we were a hard base in the democratic party.


Yet we have to tie our stake to the lesser of 2 evils, screw supporting evil. We either grow some balls in our adopted party, or suffer.


sophia's choice was simpler

[Riftaxe]

1. The point is liberals can abandon the democratic party

faster then they abandoned us, and unless they do something about it...there is not a chance it will end well for anyone.

[Pab Sungenis]

2. I don't want to see the liberal wing leave the party.

That would be counterproductive for everyone.

But the conservative leadership of our party seems to have other plans.

[Riftaxe]

3. Neither do i, we built this party!

or at least we have have put a heck of a lot of effort into it, they stop their progression.

I suspect is like a wild moose unleashed, only controlled by funding.

would explain a heck of a lot why our base is ignored in the end.

As it stand now, parties are even on corporate fundng, but since 2010 our party
leads in funding from health insurance companies...put your own conclusion together.

[Riftaxe]

4. In the end, it is seeing people

so completely fractured by poverty that as party we ignore them.


This is not right, but is so bound up in politics, it is getting hard to tell good guys from bad ones...


LBJ for all his faults told us where and what we should pursue....I on a persronal level like LBJ.

Poverty is here, we lost LBJ's war, yet even the party that wants to sound horn and call in liberals, is by purpose less then what we tried to attain.

[rhett o rick]

5. I dont know the answer. But the Democratic Party is worth fighting for.

How we push out the conservatives I dont know. But we must try.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

6. If the Special Olympics chairman could accept Rahm Emanuel's appology for calling liberals

retarded, and he did so in early 2010, shoudn't we get past the denegration of liberals by some within our Democratic Party and assume that they wish us well?

By the way, how did the Blue-Dog Democrats do in the 2010 election? Wouldn't it have been better for them and us if they would have been true to traditional Democratic principles?