Iraq

[malaise]

Thanks W, Cheney et al

[B2G]

1. Do they have a big garment industry there? nt

[malaise]

2. No - oil and they didn't have any

fugging WMDs either.

[Dreamer Tatum]

3. Beat me to it nt

[pinboy3niner]

36. They are known for their fine Muslins

[TheCowsCameHome]

4. Malaise, read this piece -

https://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2016/03/10/where-did-isis-come-from-the-story-starts-here/eOHwJQgnZPNj8SE91Vw5hK/story.html

Midway through the article, it gives the exact date of the birth of ISIS - 4/11/2003 - half a million armed, bored fighters looking for something to do.

[malaise]

5. Thanks

Not sure they were bored - more like their version of the resistance movement. As we both know and say there are always more than two sides to war - let alone an illegal one.

[egduj]

9. So ISIS is a "resistance movement"?

You almost make it sound like they should be admired.

[malaise]

24. On the contrary

but more than a few of us knew what would happen after the illegal invasion and occupation.

When we were bombing up their malls, their universities, and their entire fugging country, what the fugg did we expect - garlands of flowers - oh yes Rumsfeld and Cheney expected that.

[JI7]

27. there were terrorist attacks before the iraq war

[melman]

19. Resistance movement!

FUCK!

[JI7]

20. resistance movement killing a bunch of muslim Iraqi kids

[malaise]

21. How many Iraqi kids and adults did

the Western allies kill, maim or torture?
There is never one side to war.

[JI7]

26. there are 2 sides in this attack. ISIS which carried out the attack and the Iraqi muslims who were

The target of those attacks.

[Volaris]

31. No, they were bored and unemployed

After Paul Bremmer fired them all from military and police service and DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO DISARM FIRST. It took less than a week and the first IED directed at American forces went off. Bremmer STILL thinks the de-Baathifacation of Iraqi government was the best decision he made as Provincial Governer.

Because he's an Idiot.

[TheCowsCameHome]

34. Bremer was an idiot.

The point is cutting the army loose got the ball rolling.

[malaise]

6. Unbelievable

The whole darn gang is responsible for these war crimes.

Everyone should read this article

add

[B2G]

7. Is ISIS included in this gang? nt

[malaise]

11. I was going to suggest you read the article at #4

but I changed my mind.

[melman]

12. So that's a 'no'

[mountain grammy]

33. Great article!

[spanone]

8. they ripped the scab off of the middle east and poured salt down it.....fuckers

[malaise]

10. Of course not

They spread freedom and democracy

[spanone]

18. my bad.....fookin' bastids

[kentauros]

13. If you haven't seen it already, I highly recommend this episode of Frontline:

The Secret History of ISIS

We had an opportunity to take out Zarqawi. But, as that was during the lead-up to the Iraq war, well, we know what their priorities were.

And I'm with you on this

I don't expect the world to come together in solidarity, either...

[malaise]

14. Thanks kentauros

[kentauros]

16. You're welcome!

People often recommend Vice to me, but Frontline is so much better and I recommend Frontline back to them. Vice is like Frontline for people with short attention spans. Just not enough information can be crammed into 10-12 minutes before the next commercial break.

[malaise]

17. I like Frontline

Will watch this after the football match -France v Iceland

[kentauros]

22. Ah, real football!

Enjoy your game!
Whereas I need to make lunch and then make a cake

[JI7]

15. i blame the trash who carried out the attacks

[GeorgeGist]

30. These dipshits ...

These attacks ...

[JI7]

32. i blame them for theirs and ISIS for theirs.

[oasis]

23. War criminal, Cheney's sorry ass will never be brought to justice.

[KeizoOshima2]

25. I feel nothing but sorrow for the people in that country

They've suffered so much misery over the past decade or so. I hope things get better for them in the future.

[Hoyt]

28. Late wife worked for some Iraqi engineers, who essentially said, "bush created hundred of Sadams"

when he invaded and occupied Iraq. I believe it. We could have given every Iraqi their per capita income for years with what the war cost us, and probably gotten a lot better results.

[malaise]

29. That's the absolute truth

It was a disaster and it continues to be a disaster. I don't think most Americans know what was done in their name.

[Scuba]

35. Yep, those that pushed for the Iraq War deserve our contempt.