" It turns out Donald Trump's father was the racist landlord Woody Guthrie hated."

[apcalc]

From Daily Kos:


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/21/1472974/-It-turns-out-Donald-Trump-s-father-was-the-racist-landlord-Woody-Guthrie-hated?detail=emailclassic&link_id=5&can_id=0d28dc681e49279bc38339292dda4456&source=email-trumps-wife-posing-with-gun-thong-and-boots-and-they-had-a-problem-with-michelles-bare-arms&email_referrer=trumps-wife-posing-with-gun-thong-and-boots-and-they-had-a-problem-with-michelles-bare-arms&email_subject=trumps-wife-posing-with-gun-thong-and-boots-and-they-had-a-problem-with-michelles-bare-arms

[sasmath]

1. Interesting to read the words in the song about ' old man Trump'.

[jtuck004]

2. And then Arlo turns out to be more like the real estate swindler, lol.

Selfish little piece of crap.

"So the reaction was mixed, to say the least, when Guthrie began acknowledging he had registered as a Republican around 2003 or ‘04."

http://www.patriotledger.com/article/20110310/News/303109976

[KCS72000]

3. You dont get it

Read the article you linked, and think, what if a million liberals joined the republican party and changed it from within. We could take over the republican party.
It will never happen, but that's the way woody sees it. listen to Alice's Restaurant again.
just my opinion.

[jtuck004]

4. You don't change things from within. That's called remodeling, not revolution.

To fundamentally change something you first have to disorganize it. A bad culture is too corrosive and will always undermine what you are trying to do. Besides, you don't need it if there really is a need for your revolution.

Then make what you want.

The people you are speaking of didn't join the R party to change it. They had their meetings (their training docs are out there via google) and went after a fairly narrow set of ideas. This is kind of a red area, so there were several, lo those many years ago.

They littered themselves across the roads like nails, to stop progress. They don't intend to build anything, and will ultimately destroy the country if they prevail, because their philosophy adapts to nothing in a world that is always changing. It is ultimately selfish in a world that demands you cooperate or die.

Btw, I have been listening to that song since the year it came out, but it has nothing to do with his later life. He sold out to the other side for money and convenience. A lot of people did.

[Warren DeMontague]

6. Neil Young voted for Reagan.

Arlo's a sharp guy. I'm sure he'll come around, if he hasn't already.

[jtuck004]

7. And Arlo sounds like he will vote for the real estate swindler, now

that he is older and wiser. And more of a bigot, it seems.

"In an email interview with the Sun Herald, Arlo Guthrie, 69, said he quit writing "attack songs" when he was younger and that he doesn't necessarily share his father's opinions.

"These days, I have no problem speaking out against some Trump policy, but I will not judge the character of Fred Trump or his son, Donald," he said. "I'm happy to tell you what I think is right or wrong, but I leave the judgment to a higher authority."

Guthrie said he was given the ability to grow from his experiences in a way that was denied his father, who died at 55 in 1967.

"Maybe the biggest difference between my father and I is that I was able to live a little longer than he did and was able to learn from my experience in ways he could not," he said. "My father didn't have the luxury of living long enough to make that kind of change, regardless of whether he would or would not have."

Read more here: http://www.sunherald.com/news/politics-government/article62241957.html#storylink=cpy

Just an ordinary sellout that did something good before he became useless.

[Warren DeMontague]

8. Okay, if he votes for Trump, all bets are off.

That sucks, man. I've seen that guy play many times. I'm bummed.

[jtuck004]

9. I know. Of all people. But it is rare that you can pass on the family business to the kids and

they do anything good with it, in my experience. I don't know why, maybe it is because they didn't have to struggle?

Your kids usually tear down your work, and this is no exception.

[Warren DeMontague]

10. Getting sort of philosophical for a moment- I think the circumstances which give rise to artistic

brilliance and inspiration tend to be unique, and impossible to duplicate.

Or to put it another way, like if you are a watchmaker, it's certainly possible to teach your kids the skills of watchmaking (I realize probably almost nobody fucking makes watches like that anymore, I suspect, but just bear with me) and assuming your kid doesn't go "screw you, I want to be a Dentist" then that level of technical expertise can be passed on and applied effectively.

But an artist, like a musician- you can teach the craft but the formative experiences are going to be different. It's probably not as simple as "I grew up poor and you didn't", although I'm sure that applies in some cases.

At this point, though, I suppose it's okay for me to admit that I've always found Arlo's attempt to rhyme "pickle" with "motorcycle" cringe-inducing.

[Bonx]

5. I heard Donald Trump's cousin's dog bit Noam Chomsky's sister.