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uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:39 AM Jun 2016

Trump and Putin supported Brexit ...

... that's about all I need to know about it.


UK has a 5% unemployment rate and a growth of 7.5% since 08 when the EU is 1% since 08...



tRump and Putin supporting Brexit... overly simplistic but sets the context for me



Your take?


tia




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CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
1. Putin didn't support Brexit. Read his statement. He was very careful to stay neutral.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:19 AM
Jun 2016

But even if he did, you're using the logical fallacy of 'guilt by association'.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
2. Nah... I see the people who supported and the people who pushed it in the UK and don't see
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:25 AM
Jun 2016

... the fallacy but moving to a logical side relative to the characters who headed the support of this movement.

Hitler liked it I automatically hate it until I found out way...way... way more details about it...

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
3. The EU just doesn't have the necessary democratic structures to represent the will of the people.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:41 AM
Jun 2016

So in the end, it came down to trust.

And a majority of Brits decided they didn't trust the EU.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
5. unnn, sounds like a good amount of brits didn't trust the immigrants vs the EU. Their economy
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:48 AM
Jun 2016

... has grown 7.5% since 08 and they're at 5% UE3 rate... they're not growing at 12% so fuck everyone else?

Cities voted to stay, rural voted to go... looks like it breaking down in the same political lines as it would in the US.

I don't think its overly reflexive to go with the stay side ...

I'm not adverse to looking at the go side but it aint looking good so far

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
4. I don't let Trump and Putin do my thinking for me.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:44 AM
Jun 2016

If you are automatically against anything they support, then they define your thinking.

Look at an issue logically and completely. Come to your own conclusion regardless of what others think.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
6. This is false on its face, I look at character (something Clinton didn't do during IWR vote) of thos
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jun 2016

... those who support something and if their character is stank I tend to give their issues a double take.

Nothing reflexive about that

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
7. Trump doesn't think enough for me to consider is opinion at all.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:51 AM
Jun 2016

I could care less what his position is.

He is so stupid and uninformed, I don't give him the respect to consider his opinion.


uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
8. tRump wasn't the only person mentioned, Putin wasn't all that neutral either... he's always into the
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 09:53 AM
Jun 2016

... screw over relative to USSR.

Oh, and Obama was against it... I'll prolly mention that in the OP too

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