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ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 01:50 PM Jun 2016

What Lewandowski's firing means for the Trump Campaign

Last edited Mon Jun 20, 2016, 04:45 PM - Edit history (1)

Like many folks, I first treated Donald Trump's entry in to the GOP campaign as a joke. Then, it struck me that he was precisely the guy to excite the nuttiest nuts in the nut factory. About March, April, I was convinced that he was going to win the nomination.

But, at the same time, I always felt that his whole campaign was a joke, a put-on job, an ego-stroking, masturbatory effort at selling his personal brand. And, I was convinced that he was going to find some escape route, a means to quit while gaining the maximum amount of free coverage.

Like any PT Barnum apprentice, Trump instinctively knows what will create media attention and grab the short attention spans of the functionally illiterate, the willfully ignorant, and those morons who actually believe that the Tea Party was started as a ground roots movement. He has been a master at it, and has achieved an enviable success. Considering just how few Tea partiers remain, and how lucky we are to have a small, demented, but extremely vocal minority of imbeciles, morons, anti-intellectuals, and flat-earthers, Trump's success is almost unbelievable. Considering that Trump got 14,000,000 votes throughout the campaign (and I would suggest that 4,000,000 of those were protest votes, sarcastically cast, or used to protest our gamed economic and social systems) that means that Trump acheived the unthinkable.

If the net percentage of America's population were broken down into mental capacity, knowledge, experience, and relative "sanity" groups, this means that Trump earned 85% of ENTIRE moron vote in America. That is an astounding figure.

Given the growing hatred of Trump, especially on GOP side of the aisle, I had expected him to concoct some lame, unprovable excuse, and retire from politics. He just would not work as president, and the demands on his time would drive him crazy.


Unfortunately, all of my predictions, ideas, and predictions about this race just went out the toilet. Down the window? Something like that. Lewandowski had two things going for him. He was as rude and arrogant as his boss, and he had the ultimate insider's respect and reliance that Trump had deigned to award him.

This was, under Lewandowski, a loser's campaign, run by a loser, organized by a loser, promoting a loser, in a race that the loser was going to lose. By any measurement, the Trump campaign was a disorganized, bundle of inane, often contradictory, and pointless decisions made by one person - Trump - and put into action by his closest aide, - Lewandowski.

What his resignation means is that Trump took to heart some advice from someone within the GOP monstrosity, someone got his attention, and gave him strong advise on what he needs to to do campaign successfully. Given just how little Trump likes or takes advise from others, I suspect it was an interesting meeting or conversation.

The upshot is that Lewandowski is gone. It also means that Trump is in it to the end. It means that Trump now wants the presidency. Bring out your popcorn and fasten your seatbelt. It will be a hell of a ride for the upcoming months.

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On edit. It looks like the folks who got TRump's attention were adult family members. Either way, the prediction that he would withdraw was just plain wrong. With his family supporting his presidential campaign, he has wrapped himself into a bubble chamber in which he can do no wrong. And that means he is running for president.

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What Lewandowski's firing means for the Trump Campaign (Original Post) ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2016 OP
Don't think he resigned. It appears he got fired. yellowcanine Jun 2016 #1
The campaign is likely to get even nastier than it has been so far Warpy Jun 2016 #2
Marcos? Savimbi? ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2016 #3
Yeah, he never met a brutal dictator he didn't love Warpy Jun 2016 #4
Can I just add.. Volaris Jun 2016 #23
I never doubted for one moment that he was running. cwydro Jun 2016 #5
Without his ruby slippers, that pumpkin shaped carriage, or his ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2016 #6
You said it. cwydro Jun 2016 #7
seems like many people do not understand extreme narcissism, cwydro Skittles Jun 2016 #17
I'm hoping this is disastrous move for the campaign Boomer Jun 2016 #8
I was wrong. keithbvadu2 Jun 2016 #9
Well said. Binkie The Clown Jun 2016 #10
Tanx. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2016 #12
MANAFORT is not an indicator of "improvement" for DRUMPF.MANFORT is a fixer for right wing dictators UTUSN Jun 2016 #11
But think of the popcorn futures markets. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2016 #13
I still think Trump doesn't want to win. CaptainTruth Jun 2016 #14
Well said. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2016 #15
I'm thinking along the same lines Trump is a self promoter He's all Trump all the time He makes Monk06 Jun 2016 #16
I absolutely agree MrScorpio Jun 2016 #22
Good post but what if the family stepped in malaise Jun 2016 #18
With his being a con man, I am not surprised that he has little or none on hand. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2016 #19
Who could blame them - he's taking down all the Cons and their cons malaise Jun 2016 #20
What if the family stepped in so thay all could get in on the payola. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #25
With this bunch anything is possible malaise Jun 2016 #28
If Manafort wasn't himself a loser, this would make for better argument alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #21
Has anyone asked Lewandowski? L. Coyote Jun 2016 #24
Manafort wanted Lewandowski gone early on RussBLib Jun 2016 #26
He's been replaced with a modern day joseph goebbels. The_Casual_Observer Jun 2016 #27

Warpy

(111,383 posts)
4. Yeah, he never met a brutal dictator he didn't love
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 03:31 PM
Jun 2016

Crush the little people with that iron fist, you get things done, you see, and the cash flow stays positive.

Volaris

(10,275 posts)
23. Can I just add..
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 11:43 PM
Jun 2016

W T F did Pakistani intelligence think it was going to with submarines???

Manafort is a piece of work, yeah.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
6. Without his ruby slippers, that pumpkin shaped carriage, or his
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 03:39 PM
Jun 2016

Magic bean stalk, one can only wonder what new and confused issues he will raise over the upcoming months.

It is like a make believe fairy tale - except the ogre is being crowned.

Boomer

(4,170 posts)
8. I'm hoping this is disastrous move for the campaign
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jun 2016

The campaign under Lewandowski may have seemed amateurish, but Corey was very good at doing what Donald Trump wanted, whether it was the right thing to do or not for the ultimate success of the campaign. Lewandowski may have ruffled a lot of feathers in his tenure, but they were never Donald's feathers.

Now Trump has been persuaded to do the "right" thing by letting Manafort run his campaign, which threatens to be much more effective... but what are the chances that Trump will follow the good advice he gets?

Zero. None.

Trump will quickly revert to form and expect his new improved campaign to do things his way, regardless of the consequences. And unlike Corey, the new management will not obey blindly and willingly. There will be discord, conflict, arguments....

And more firings. Because Trump cannot possibly stand anyone who isn't doing exactly what HE wants done.

keithbvadu2

(36,962 posts)
9. I was wrong.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 04:03 PM
Jun 2016

I figured that Trump would be long gone by now and that the republicans would be smart enough to reject him.

I was wrong.

The repub/cons base loves him and it is the GOP elite who want him gone.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
10. Well said.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jun 2016

I've been hoping all along that he would bail out using some lame excuse, or even loudly proclaiming something to the effect that "America doesn't deserve" to have him as their president because we are all losers.

UTUSN

(70,762 posts)
11. MANAFORT is not an indicator of "improvement" for DRUMPF.MANFORT is a fixer for right wing dictators
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 04:39 PM
Jun 2016

An image fixer. He is nowhere in the universe of legitimacy or respectability. He and all the other nutcases DRUMPF has hired are signs of DRUMPF's unhinged-ness. What all this means for the DRUMPF supposed "campaign" is total CHAOS.

CaptainTruth

(6,608 posts)
14. I still think Trump doesn't want to win.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 05:33 PM
Jun 2016

If he won the election the whole world would see what a clueless incompetent "leader" he is. His ego would be crushed & in Trump's world it's all about stroking his ego, maintaining his charade. He knows he can get away with verbal bluster on the campaign trail but if he became POTUS everyone would expect him to actually *DO* things ... & he's got nothing. He's got nothing & he knows it. His whole charade would come crashing down, & with it, his fragile ego.

He won't quit, that would be on him, he'd have to own it, & his ego won't let him be a quitter. To him it's better to lose because then he can blame the loss on someone else (the RNC, a crooked system, etc).

Look at all his actions, are they the actions of someone who really wants to win? Insulting every voter demographic needed to win (a majority of the electorate)? Doing almost no fundraising & refusing to fund his campaign (he's only given loans, not contributions)? Having no real campaign organization? Hiring just a hand full of state-level campaign staff (30 people for 50 states, with NONE in critical states like Ohio)? Turning against the press & making them his enemy? Turning against his own party (thus ensuring any help they give will be reluctant & modest)?

I could go on but I think you get the point. These aren't the actions of a person who wants to win, they're the actions of a person who's afraid of winning because winning would expose them for the incompetent huckster they really are & utterly destroy their carefully-crafted charade.

And don't forget, Trump didn't enter the race to win. He decided to run as a protest candidate & thought getting 20% would be good, that was his goal. Going all the way wasn't part of the plan.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
16. I'm thinking along the same lines Trump is a self promoter He's all Trump all the time He makes
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 06:08 PM
Jun 2016

his money being and selling Trump

If he won he would have to represent something larger than himself and he sincerely believes that there is nothing in the world larger, more important or more interesting than Trump

Add to that the fact that he will not listen to let alone take advice from anyone and you have someone who cannot function as a political leader

Political leaders nead to build support, coalitions and alliances to further their political aims Trump is incapable of doing that He's a my way or the highway kind of guy

He acts like a club fighter who is pumping himself up to hide the fact that he's going to take a dive for the right price He just wants to get the right price

Someone will back Trump TV as a bribe to take him out of the race I predict, after some backroom deal at the convention, that he will quit. Maybe with a lot of bluster and fury but he will leave and will be quite happy to do so

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
22. I absolutely agree
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 11:26 PM
Jun 2016

Clearly the only thing that Trump cares about is expanding his name brand and recognition for AFTER the election.

Getting elected would lose him time and money.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
19. With his being a con man, I am not surprised that he has little or none on hand.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jun 2016

I wonder with whom he is negotiating his Trexit strategy. RMoney? McConnell? Rinse? Paul Ryan?

I wonder if he is making the calls, and no one picks up the phone?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
25. What if the family stepped in so thay all could get in on the payola.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 11:52 PM
Jun 2016

And, how many millions have they moved to the Caymans without reporting it?

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
21. If Manafort wasn't himself a loser, this would make for better argument
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 08:54 PM
Jun 2016

I don't disagree with you, but Trump has truly replaced one loser with another.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
24. Has anyone asked Lewandowski?
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 11:51 PM
Jun 2016

Might have some real inside insights. Bet he is talking to other major Republican players, telling all.

RussBLib

(9,044 posts)
26. Manafort wanted Lewandowski gone early on
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 11:59 PM
Jun 2016

Manafort will stop at nothing. Kinda like Trump.

Sleaze and more sleaze.

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