Gun Sales

[kpete]

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[Kang Colby]

1. Tragedy doesn't drive gun sales. All the foolish talk about banning guns that follows does. eom

[Lee-Lee]

2. That's true. If you had serious gun control talks that were not opportunisicly started after these

events the sales would still rise just the same.

It's a reaction to the reaction to the event.

[Kang Colby]

4. Possibly. But I think the ban rhetoric adds much more fuel to the fire so to speak.

In any event, I have no issue with folks buying guns and donating to pro-2A organizations. We need to expand the right.

[Just reading posts]

6. Absolutely right. Want to reduce gun sales? Don't push for gun control in the wake of these events

[Gidney N Cloyd]

7. There's really no "wake" anymore. It's like one continuous churn.

[IronLionZion]

13. It's been 8 years already and guns are not banned

When is Obama going to take away your guns? Next year? Next month? Better buy some more guns today just in case he does it tonight while you sleep? People have been buying lots of guns for the last 8 years. Nobody has stopped these people yet.

[appal_jack]

16. Hillary's ban rhetoric is far worse than Obama's ever was. nt

[IronLionZion]

35. Better get to the gun store post haste

After Hillary takes your guns she will turn you transgender and vegans will force you to do yoga with your government-issued mandatory gay marriage.

[appal_jack]

38. I am content with what I own, thank you. nt

[Gore1FL]

30. Most of the the foolish talk is from the NRA nt

[glennward]

3. How many guns do people need? And for what?

They could never use all the guns they own for any kind of attack. Most can't even get the one they carry out of their holster in time to save their own lives.

[Kang Colby]

5. It isn't about need.

A desire to own is a protected right in itself.

[Just reading posts]

10. I have dozens. Does it matter, compared to my having, say two?

[A Round Tuit]

15. Anecdotal rhetoric.

They could never use all the guns they own for any kind of attack.

I'm assuming you have personal knowledge of how many guns "they" have?

Most can't even get the one they carry out of their holster in time to save their own lives.

Were I you, I would not be associating with anyone that incompetent...I mean, you must know them, else you wouldn't post such an assumption, without a personal awareness of it, right?

Or perhaps you are a trainer of the users of firearms, and have first hand knowledge of the alleged incompetence of those that have and/or legally carry a gun?

I am continually amazed at the diversity of the folks that frequent this forum.

Most are knowledgeable.

Some are not.

[Gore1FL]

31. As many as it takes to reach orgasm, I suspect.

[hack89]

33. I don't own guns for self defense nt

[MisterP]

37. GOA ran the Charlie Hebdo shooting with paintballs and the death toll was the same

THREE ARMED POLICEMEN WHO TRAIN SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS SORT OF THING ENGAGED THE GUNMAN AT PULSE
it's long been said that the GOP has only run on fantasies ABOUT the 50s, not anything from the 50s--just cowboy movies and "Father Knows Best" (since "Leave it to Beaver" was way too New Deal Dem for them)

[aikoaiko]

8. These gun sale surges are NOT prompted by mass shootings, but by fears of gun bans and low supply

Even if you don't think there will actually be any bans on guns, the surge in buying can dry up supply for up to two years which drives up prices for the remaining inventory.

Take me for example. I had been thinking about picking up an AR style lower that was designed to take Glock factory magazines. A pistol-carbine set that takes the same magazines has its advantages. Plus 9mm ammo is now about as cheap as it will be for the foreseeable future. I decided to pick up two complete lowers because I realized there was a good chance they would be sold out and might not come back at a decent price for a while.

They are in the mail to my local FFL now.

[Hoyt]

9. Quickest way to stop gun control talk is to actually pass some gun control like Australia, Canada,

European countries. They don't put up with this BS, and whiny gun fanciers scared of losing their access to more gunz.

[Just reading posts]

11. And that's not going to happen, so.....

[Hoyt]

12. Australia is the last country I would have expected it, but they bit the bullet in 1996.

[Just reading posts]

17. It didn't surprise me at the time. As is the csse in most countries, firearms ownership there

is a privilege doled out by the government, not a protected right.

[appal_jack]

18. Australia did not have the RKBA in their supreme governing document.

The Right to Keep and Bear Arms was placed second only to freedom of religion, assembly, and speech in America's Constitutional Bill of Rights.

Other countries whose founders lacked this wisdom are not my problem.

-app

[Gore1FL]

32. We need to well-regulate the militia, more however.

That way more people can continue their inalienable rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

[-none]

14. It is going to happen. Bet on it.

The rest of us are getting a bit tired of being use for target practice. The gun lovers have had enough fun at our expense. It is well past time to start taking some of your toys away.

[Hoyt]

19. Exactly, we've been coddling these sickos too long.

[Just reading posts]

21. So when do the confiscation squads start forming? Tomorrow? Next week? Next month?

Next year?

Five years from now?

Ten?

Twenty?

[Hoyt]

23. Like most things, it will be incremebtalism, but it will happen because these sick gun

yahoos won't stop this madness until forced to give em up, notwithstanding all the "molon labe" BS.

[Just reading posts]

25. Let's examine the trend of the last thirty years, shall we?

Since 1986, concealed carry has been liberalized in state after state. And in that time, it hasn't gotten more restrictive in a single state. 20% of the country now has unrestricted concealed carry.

History is on my side, not yours.

[Just reading posts]

20. This is said after every mass shooting. "This time it's happening!" "This time is different!"

It is well past time to start taking some of your toys away.

Legislation doing that isn't even being proposed, let alone have any chance of passing.

[Paladin]

22. This thread wouldn't be loaded up with Gun Enthusiasts like you.....

if you weren't scared shitless of it happening. And it will happen.

[Just reading posts]

24. Oh, I'm concerned in the long run about the possiblity of some gun control happening in my lifetime.

if you weren't scared shitless of it happening

That a rather extreme characterization of a reasonable concern.

And it will happen.

Confiscation? No way. No how. I will grant that laws prohibiting the sale and manufacture of some items such as "assault" weapons and "high capacity" magazines might pass at some point in the future (certainly not now), but they would be grandfathered.

[Logical]

27. No way in this country, we love guns and way overestimate the need for one. Gun nuts are paranoid. n

[-none]

28. Paranoid may be understating things a bit.

Being paranoid should be one of the reasons for not being able to buy or possess firearms.

[virginia mountainman]

40. Ok..

....Come and take it....

[Ford_Prefect]

26. The other big winners are the Ammunition companies. They drive sales with rumors about confiscation.

They have a stake in the enlarged magazines and the rapid fire weapons which consume more rounds.

Last year they fooled my 29 year old nephew into buying a stunning amount of ammunition on the false premise it was all about to be seized by DOJ, ATFE, FBI and Obama. All he does with it is hunt and plink (target shooting), but he works construction alongside guys who are SURE that the next time will be point when confiscation begins.

[Duckhunter935]

29. Fooled him, no

Was that when they proposed rule changes to actually ban a type of 5.56 round. They were going to until it slipped out and the backlash was swift and it was proven it di not even meet their definition of armor piercing. Since ammo does not go bad and he apparently bought in bulk, he saved money.

[Ford_Prefect]

34. They run that scam every time someone sneezes hard in D.C. and apparently it works every time.

Nephew is a tool hound and hunts with an antique .308. I'm not sure what he plinks with. The idea he owned that much ammunition was a bit overwhelming as otherwise he is not into the Guns R Us faith.

[Duckhunter935]

36. How much did he buy?

Easy to go through 50-100 rounds plinking. It was not a sneeze, it was a rule change to ban a type of ammunition that is used by many shooters as being plentiful and relatively cheap.