So are we really going to be running against Trump?

[leeroysphitz]

Will Trump survive the Repuke convention as the nominee or could we (democrats) be caught with our pants down having to scrap months worth of plans, strategies, research etc... in the face of an unexpected (surprise) republican nominee?

Would Trump supporters lose their minds or what? lol

Your thoughts?

[TheCowsCameHome]

1. I doubt it will be Trump.

We had better be prepared, this guy is capable of almost anything.

Between the establishment GOP's hate for him and his ability to cut deals to his advantage, it is unlikely he will be on the ticket in the GE this November.

To think otherwise is whistling past the graveyard.

Democrats had better be ready for an opponent other than Donald Trump.

[leeroysphitz]

2. This is what I'm saying.

I don't think it's an intentional bait and switch but I think that's how it may work out and I'm with you, I hope we are prepared.

[FarPoint]

12. I have to agree....

At least be prepared....I think the mystery candidate will be Kasich....

Or, the GOP agrees to forfeit the WH, place their money into retaining control of House and Senate.... continue business as usual of 100% Obstructionist....

[leeroysphitz]

13. Clinton is white. I doubt they'll obstruct her presidency to the same dgree as they did Obama's n/t

[Cresent City Kid]

18. I think they will obstruct to the same degree

just using different tools. Any Democratic president will face some version of what Obama is dealing with. With Bill Clinton it was his infidelity. Obama is beyond reproach in his personal life, so his ethnicity plays a role. If he was dumb or shady or had some other flaw, they would have used that, maybe with or without taking advantage of racism in the general public.

The right will foment hatred and disrespect of any Democrat in the White House using any means available for the foreseeable future.

[bemildred]

19. Yep, and Carter, "Billy Beer". nt

[FarPoint]

20. I agree President Obama was instructed due to his race...

Additionally, President Obama was instructed because he was a Democrat. Let us not minimize how Hillary has been attacked by republicans daily since 1991 for being a smart, powerful women and a Democrat. It will continue.

[leeroysphitz]

22. You may be right but when Mitch McConnell talks about the Pres you can SEE the race hatred in

his face.

[Cresent City Kid]

24. I agree

but whether or not the gop leaders are racists, their method is to subtly use the racism already in place to prop themselves up politically, kind of like when Trump vaguely implied that Obama was involved in terrorism, letting the ignorant fill in the blanks, of course he is less subtle.

[lunatica]

26. You're kidding right?

Clinton may be white but she's also a woman running to be in the last bastion of The ultimate man's role.

We're far behind a dozen countries who have elected women as their leaders, so it's not like she's the first woman ever to run for the office of ultimate leadership. But there's a reason why no woman has ever been allowed to get this close in the US. Do you think the mostly misogynist Congress will give her a pass for being white?

Being white is totally a non issue in this.

[leeroysphitz]

27. I disagree. Race has driven the right's strategy for Obama's term.

Clinton will never get it as bad that. The dynamics of racial and sexual discrimination arent always exactly the same . We shall see.

[lunatica]

28. They're hatred for Hillary is going on 20 years

They'll be far worse to her than they've been to Obama.

That's one of the reasons I didn't support her in the first place. Because it truly would be just more of the same as the last seven and a half years. I don't see the GOP letting up one inch. If anything it'll get worse because we'll have to listen to Benghazi, the emails and Lewinski every single day along with unending criticism of every single things she does or says each day.

Obama brought out their racism. Hillary will bring out their misogyny in force. Mark my words.

[surrealAmerican]

3. I think the only way the establishment Republicans ...

... can plausibly get a different candidate is to convince him to drop out. There are likely numerous attempts to either bribe or blackmail him to do so.

His supporters have already lost their minds. That's why they support him.

[leeroysphitz]

4. Don't the reukes have a mechanism for getting rid of bad candidates like dems w/ superdelegates?

[Scootaloo]

9. Oh, there are other ways that I wouldn't put past Republicans...

[leeroysphitz]

11. Sadly Trump doesn't do small planes lol only HUGE ones. n/t

[still_one]

5. No doubt there are republicans who want to dump Trump, and while they may be successful at the

Convention, it will split the republican ticket in the GE

Democrats will stick with the Democratic nominee, and even if independents were split between the Democrat, Trump, and some unknown alternate, I think the Democrats will still have the advantage

The demographics favor the Democrats, with gender, African Americans, Latinos, etc

[leeroysphitz]

8. The demographics ARE in our favor which make the national polls showing an almost 50-50

horse very frustrating. Who are they polling?

[still_one]

14. The national polls actually shifted, and Hillary is about 8 to 10 points up. At this stage I don't

think national polls are particularly accurate

[Doctor Jack]

29. Yeah, I don't know where you're getting those numbers

Trump is down significantly in the head to head polls, roughly 7 points on average. That is how much Obama won by 2008 and close to what Bush won by in 1988. I wouldn't say they are tied in any sense of the word.

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. To think it will only be Trump is sheer nonsense.

This guy and the whole campaign on the right is like no other.

If he thinks he might lose, he may walk. He cannot stand losing.

Nothing is off the table. Nothing.

[patricia92243]

7. Unfortunately, I don't think so. The low poll numbers will give Trump a reason to quit (he won't

say it is this.) He will say the GOP has been unfair to him, etc and will withdraw. He will just wait til it will hurt them most.

Then they will get another nominee that they will throw money and workers behind. Then we will have wasted our money and time running against Trump.

[leeroysphitz]

10. "He will just wait til it will hurt them most" that does seem to be his pattern. lol

The Republicans under Trump are their own worst enemy at this point.

[Adrahil]

15. It'll either be Trump, or....

The racists will lose their fucking minds and the GOP will be in all-out civil war.

[Vogon_Glory]

16. We will probably be running against Trump, BUT

We will probably be running against Donald Trump, but I dearly hope that someone in the DNC is working on a backup strategy to use against an un-democratic, selfish, power-obsessed oligarchical clique more than willing to ignore the wishes of millions of voters by denying the candidate of their choice at the top of their party's ticket in case the Rethugly elite pulls a switcheroo and puts somebody else on top of their ticket

Yes, I know this sound whack to some DU readers, and I don't like the Donald or his policies, but the Donald as a symbol of a selfish oligarchy who deliberately thwarted the will of voters ought to have some traction as a meme for use by Team Donkey.

I would like to point out to DU's Sandalistas that this is Donald-as-a-symbol of thwarted voters. This does NOT mean setting Donald at our table and setting Democratic policy.

[leeroysphitz]

17. The old switch-a-roo. Or rope-a-dope as George Will says. Yep That's what I've been thinking. N/T

[sarisataka]

21. Why is this so hard to believe?

Republicans once ran a chimpanzee's straight man for president. People asked then who would ever vote for him and we were stuck with the fool for 8 years.

They are running Trump and if we don't accept it as a serious possibility that he can be elected we will be watching his inauguration in January asking ourselves what the hell just happened.

[leeroysphitz]

23. After his first month as the presumptive it is getting harder to believe that he will

remain nominee or have a prayer in the general. But you're right and the primary road is littered w/ the corpses of repukes that misunderestimated him.

I just think we should be prepared to deal w/ another candidate. Just in case...

[L. Coyote]

25. It's not just the Alzheimer's, his hands are too small.

Check this out:
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