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Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:49 PM Jun 2016

Trump Wants to Use What Little Money His Campaign Has on Flipping NY, CA, NJ, MD

One of those wacky ideas was on display Thursday at a fundraising event at New York’s Four Seasons Hotel. At the event, Trump told donors he planned to target solid Democratic states like California, Maryland and New Jersey, according to multiple media reports. None of these states have been remotely close for Republicans since the 1980s, and all three have extremely expensive media markets that would require redirecting large amounts of resources from states that Trump conceivably could win

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Trump doesn’t want to piss away money in just these three wildly expensive media markets. He also wants to throw away his money — and the party’s — in the biggest media market: New York. The Empire State has essentially zero chance of voting Republican in the general election, but Trump can’t stay away from promoting himself in his home state, the center of his business empire. His campaign has come up with a cock-eyed plan to win the state by playing big in the upstate region, blanketing it with bumper stickers and yard signs. The campaign’s co-chair in New York, Carl Paladino, who is in charge of this effort, was crushed when he ran for governor there on a proto-Trump platform in the Republican wave election year of 2010

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History does not bode well for candidates facing such huge money gaps. In 1996, Bob Dole’s campaign ran out of primary money before the Republican convention and was forced to significantly limit its advertising and travel budget for the crucial summer months. His resignation from the Senate was partly motivated by his money shortage so he could appear at “issue-based” events paid for with RNC “soft money.” Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) was the last general election presidential candidate from either major party to accept public financing and found himself facing an insurmountable financial deficit against Obama in 2008. Dole and McCain both lost badly.



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Trump Wants to Use What Little Money His Campaign Has on Flipping NY, CA, NJ, MD (Original Post) Doctor Jack Jun 2016 OP
nothing like trowing money away.... chillfactor Jun 2016 #1
Could it be that Trump is actually a secret genius? Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #2
People who run for President must have huge egos. Trumps ego should be listed in Guinness. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #3
Trump's incompetence is almost frustrating Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #10
Assuming that he wins the traditional Republican states,his plan to put these states in play makes Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #17
i'll bet they sat tightly on their wallets spanone Jun 2016 #4
Bring it on democrattotheend Jun 2016 #5
Just a reminder, here is how close those states were in 2012 Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #6
The only thing that's going to flip flamingdem Jun 2016 #7
Please proceed, Donald ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #8
I bet at some point we have a single poll showing Trump down by only 9 in California Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #9
he truly is an idiot.... dhill926 Jun 2016 #11
I'm sure he has had such brilliant ideas as... Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #13
What a buffoon! tanyev Jun 2016 #12
there is something non-campaign related in it for him Orangepeel Jun 2016 #14
Probably running "campaign" commercials that just "happen to mention" his resorts Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #15
Maryland? Wow. nyquil_man Jun 2016 #16

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
2. Could it be that Trump is actually a secret genius?
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:56 PM
Jun 2016

Haha...I'm sorry, I worry about such silly things sometimes.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
10. Trump's incompetence is almost frustrating
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:12 PM
Jun 2016

The sheer stupidity in his strategy to win is actually causing me some physical pain. I don't care if this only benefits our side, it is still so difficult to watch. His campaign is a gruesome spectacle.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
17. Assuming that he wins the traditional Republican states,his plan to put these states in play makes
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 03:32 PM
Jun 2016

sense.
Take California or New York, and Democrats have big problems getting the 270. California, Texas, and New York equal 120 electoral votes. Demographically, I don't think it is possible for him to win California or New York. But going for them makes sense as long as he has the finances.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
5. Bring it on
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:04 PM
Jun 2016

As a New York voter I would love to have my vote actually matter. Plus, I would love to see him waste money in NY.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
6. Just a reminder, here is how close those states were in 2012
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
Jun 2016

California=Obama +23

Maryland=Obama +26

New Jersey=Obama +18

New York=Obama +28


Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
9. I bet at some point we have a single poll showing Trump down by only 9 in California
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:08 PM
Jun 2016

And we are going to hear an entire weeks worth a media coverage about how his plan might actually be genius. Mark my words, 1 outlier poll is going to result in a week of very annoying political analysis.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
13. I'm sure he has had such brilliant ideas as...
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:30 PM
Jun 2016

..."Lets just make the steak dinner $100,000, we will be out of debt in no time!" and "If we bring in Somali pirates to clean the rooms, we can just let them loot the guests' belongings and we won't have to pay them a thing!"

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
14. there is something non-campaign related in it for him
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jun 2016

I don't know what, but I bet he wants to spend campaign money to promote his name in those areas for some other purpose. Golf courses? Necktie sales?

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
15. Probably running "campaign" commercials that just "happen to mention" his resorts
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:47 PM
Jun 2016

They will likely be commercials that have a lot of long shots panning across his businesses and he will claim it is to show that he has supported those states with his companies or some bullshit. They will be thinly veiled ads masquerading as political commercials.

nyquil_man

(1,443 posts)
16. Maryland? Wow.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jun 2016

His best poll out of Maryland, from PPP in April, had him trailing Clinton 61-28. Yeah. Totally winnable.

In fact, he hasn't had a polling lead in any of those states (since at least November; I haven't checked polling prior to that, although I doubt his numbers were much better prior to that).

If this were any other candidate, I'd say it's a bluff designed to force Clinton to spend money defending blue states. But Trump? Nah; I think he honestly believes he's got a chance. Anyway, when you win your party's nomination with only 44% of the vote (and win states like SC with only 33%), perhaps it distorts your notion of what it takes to win.

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