Trump dropping like a rock

[DCBob]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

[tanyev]

1. A yuuuuuge, really classy rock.

[joeybee12]

2. It can only get better...Hillary has been having a good week

And I don't think these have yet to take into account Der Trumpenfuhrer's recent racist rants.

[DCBob]

4. Yes.. yesterdays events will have likely a big impact on the next round of polls.

[peace13]

3. I imagine this shakes up Hill.

With Donald as a candidate she would not have had to debate and those pesky rallies would be unnecessary. What will come if her if she has to campaign against someone less vaudevillian?

[emulatorloo]

10. Trump won't drop out, and GOP can't oust him. Too late.

[PJMcK]

32. Secretary Clinton is far tougher than that

For over 30 years, the GOP has thrown mud composed of lies, innuendos and unproven allegations at Hillary Clinton and none of it has stuck. The best example of her intelligence, strength and knowledge was exhibited in her marathon testimony before Congressman Gowdy's Benghazi committee. She was masterful and serious and demonstrated how small and foolish the Republicans are.

From everything I've read so far, it will be highly unlikely that the GOP will replace Donald Trump as their nominee. Regardless, she'll do fine.

[pnwmom]

55. She's a brilliant debater. It's Trump who should be afraid of debating with her.

Debating Bernie for the 9th time in CA would have been a waste -- he always only has the same 5 things to say.

[seabeckind]

5. He served his purpose.

The GOP wanted to run against Hillary.

Who are they running against?

Even if they lose, the 1% will win.

[DCBob]

6. LOL.. Hillary is their worst nightmare.

They have been attacking her 7x24 all through this campaign. They wanted Bernie.

[seabeckind]

7. Cool bubble you have there. n/t

[DCBob]

8. Do you live under a rock?

[stopbush]

27. Sanders lost to Hillary by, what, 3.5-million votes?

He couldn't win the nomination. How was he ever going to win the GE?

[justiceischeap]

15. Of course, that's why they've been using their giant propaganda machine

for decades trying to ruin her reputation. All the stuff you believe about Hillary started in some Republicans mouth.

[auntpurl]

33. Wow, that is a powerful quote.

"All the stuff you believe about Hillary started in some Republican's mouth."

[justiceischeap]

50. Thanks. nt

[hatrack]

9. . . . a yuuge, classy rock made of SOLID GOLD! Feel the weight, the acceleration!

. . . the terminal velocity!

[Dawgs]

11. I thought we were supposed to ignore poll numbers in June.

[DCBob]

17. Yes, I would except the Berners keep insisting Hillary cant beat Trump based on polls.

[Dawgs]

18. Not me, because the polls aren't the reason she will lose to Trump. nt

[DCBob]

19. So why would Trump beat Hillary?

[seabeckind]

22. Why do you assume it will be Trump against Hillary?

As I keep saying and you keep missing:

The GOP wants to run against Hillary. She has negatives off the chart and if she will guarantee a large segment of the electorate will stay home.

That is true no matter who the GOP nominee is.

That means that the down ticket races will most definitely be affected. When turnout is low, who wins?

The GOP controls a very large part of the country, in the state and local. They like it that way.

They also control the legislative branch at the federal level and if Hillary is on the ticket it's unlikely they will lose that. What makes you think that even if she's elected she'll be able to implement anything?

Try looking outside your bubble.

[DCBob]

23. Mr Dawgs said Hillary cant beat Trump... just wondering why he thought that.

You are the one in a bubble if you think the GOP wants Hillary.

[seabeckind]

24. I gave you a number of reasons

which you either didn't see or didn't understand.

You are the one who keeps fixating on trump and hillary and can't see past the personalities to the issues and the situation.

Hence the bubble. Enjoy your delusions, I'm thru with you.

[DCBob]

35. Your "reasons" make no sense.. hence the bubble comment back to you.

I am through with you too. Ciao.

[stopbush]

29. Like the way people stayed home and didn't vote for Hillary in the primaries?

The Bernie Bubble is a sad thing in which to be trapped.

[pnwmom]

57. Because they would be risking a major party schism if they try to replace him. n/t

[seabeckind]

63. Nah. Repubs aren't very bright.

In most of the red states they just yank the R lever and rush home to turn on A&E.

[Botany]

12. After the 2012 election the GOP did a study and they found they had to do better w/..

.... women, african americans, and hispanics to be in any national race and so they
pick Trump in 2016.

[Person 2713]

30. Even if the study showed that, most R voters don't want that . The R vote actually want a racially,

Religiously, 'pure party' with men in the power positions IMO as proven by the trump votes in the primary ..

[Darb]

13. He's dropping very bigly.

Not quite yuuge yet, but getting there.

[skip fox]

14. And this is before Obama's endorsement!

[oberliner]

16. And Bernie's endorsement to come

Next week I would imagine (after DC primary).

[DCBob]

20. Yesterday was a big day for Democrats!

No doubt a big bounce for Madam Secretary.

[a kennedy]

21. I hope he drops off the face of the earth.......

can't stand his voice, hate his message, and hope he just disappears. Ugh.....

[JCMach1]

25. I have been saying for weeks, Trumps poll internals are horrific...

huge landslide horrific.

[HooptieWagon]

26. That's bad news for Hillary...

...since Trump may be replaced at the convention. He was the GOP candidate she had the best chance of beating. Now the GOP will select a candidate who'll run much stronger against her.

[Person 2713]

31. Who is their hope? How will they win the trump mad mob?

[HooptieWagon]

34. I have no idea. I picture a smoke-filled back room,...

...and deals being made. No way to predict. Money has to go on an establishment candidate like Bush, Romney, or Kasich...but there could be a compromise that gives it to an upstart or dark horse.
Keep in mind, GOP hopes are to hang on to House and Senate, so they don't want a down-ticket bloodbath. They'll sacrifice the presidential race in order to hold on to Congress, build the Brand, and try again in 4 years.

[quickesst]

39. Pick a name...

... Any republican you want. Let me ask. Do you really believe that the die hard trump fans will go with someone else after rejecting umpteen other candidates to elect him as their nominee? They will do exactly as some of Bernie's supporters will do. Write in trumps name or vote third party. The far-right version of rejecting the establishment.

[HooptieWagon]

48. The die hard Trump fans are a minority in the GOP,...

...less than a third. The 'no Trump' vote was split among 16 candidates, allowing Trump to win several winner-take-all states with only 25-30% of the vote. Plus he had a huge edge in media coverage, and name recognition. In a more 'normal' type of Primary campaign, Trump comes in third place out of three.

[Purveyor]

28. He is not going to be the GOP nominee, just watch this space. eom

[DCBob]

36. I am starting to think that way also.

I listen to RW radio during my long commute in the AM and PM.. and its sounds like they are going to try to change the rules at the convention to stop Trump from getting the vote on the first ballot which would then open it up to other candidates.

They know there will probably be a riot and who knows what Trump will do but I think they are willing to take that risk to get rid of him.

Cleveland is going to be interesting.

[bigwillq]

37. Good (nt)

[sofa king]

38. He'll be back.

Overheard last night:

First fat white guy: "What do you think, does Trump have a chance?"

Second fat white guy: "He just can't keep his mouth shut, that guy. I wish he would."



That's the typical Republican response, I think: everything Trump has said and done is forgivable. They just wish he wouldn't say what all Republicans think. Shameful.

I would add that the two men were in a booth behind me with two women whose silence on the matter was athunderous.

[DCBob]

40. No doubt..

The ignorant masses brainwashed by Faux Newz will resurrect him.. but that can only bring him so far.. I doubt that will be enough to win.

[sofa king]

49. I doubt it, too.

If George Bush hadn't foreshortened the lives of millions of white Americans by impoverishing them, stealing their homes, and making them opium addicts, Trump might have a chance.

But the sheep were skinned, not fleeced.

I don't think any Republican could have won this election. Presidential selection in 2000 led directly to natural selection by 2016.

[auntpurl]

52. Not enough white dudes. The Romney problem. nt

[Doctor Jack]

43. We have seen him try to stay on message and keep his mouth shut before

It works for about 2 hours before he starts screaming/spitting about Mexicans again. And have you seen those moments where trump is "on message"? He sounds like a dull robot version of Ted Cruz who can barely read. He is either going to go with poorly programmed RoboTrump or he will fly off the rails again on some wild, racist rant imminently. There is no charming, down to earth, well spoken, knowledgeable trump. All of the coaching, scripts, and sedatives in the world won't transform him into that.

[nyquil_man]

53. I'd been looking forward to the moment when Trump started relying on the Teleprompter.

I knew it would happen sooner or later, although I figured it wouldn't happen until the convention.

Giving him a text to read, oddly enough, makes him sound even dumber than usual. He's a very poor reader. Remember Drumpf Steaks? "When it comes to steaks, I've just raised the stakes!" Lousy line reading and he shouts everything in a sing-song manner. There's a story about his gig hosting SNL. He had the line, "Let's go. Turkey legs?" (meaning "Do you want to go get some turkey legs?&quot Drumpf read it as "Let's go, turkey legs!"

[Doctor Jack]

54. That reminds me of this fake ad from SNL

Its Darrel Hammond as trump getting horribly confused by what Dominos Pizza does and can't really read the script properly. Its probably from around 2005

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/dominos-ad-shoot/n11961

[GulfCoast66]

62. You just described

Why he will not be back...

There are not enough fat white guys to elect a president. There were in 80 and even 90.

Hell, Mittens could not do it and he got some Hispanic votes.

Or maybe women will come out I droves for him?

[Doctor Jack]

41. Looks like the meme that "hillary has never gained support after falling in the polls" is bullshit

Looks like a real and significant reversal of fortune for her since she fell in May. Lawrence O'Donnell scared me for a few minutes there.

[DCBob]

42. In fact its going to get much better once yesterday's effects are polled.

[Doctor Jack]

44. I feel it went a long way to getting many of those reluctant dems on board

And if she picks Warren as VP then this thing is in the bag.

[DCBob]

45. Yes, I feel that way too.

Relieved!

[glowing]

51. I think they are going to switch their candidate after the Drm convention.

[nolabear]

56. Watching the audience of his rally tonight: 2000 of 12000 seats full, per msnbc.

He's late, the place isn't full by half, the crowd outside is sparse.

I couldn't be happier.

[DCBob]

58. Wow... he is truly imploding.

He might drop out voluntarily if this keeps up. I am sure he hates it.. he cant stand it that he isnt super popular.

[nolabear]

59. If he dropped out they would do...what? First runner up?

You know, like Miss Universe?

[DCBob]

60. Ha!!

[Liberal_in_LA]

61. ..

[sarcasmo]

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