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RogueTrooper

(4,665 posts)
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:12 AM May 2016

‘The Judge, We Believe, Is Mexican’


Think skinned, vindictive and racist. Not fit for the bully pulpit of President


- “Mexican.” Trump was careful to say that there’s nothing “wrong” with being Mexican (when, again, he was referring to a person of completely American background). But in a rally where people are chanting “build the wall!” this was not a mere by-the-way comment.

Imagine a comparison: suppose this case went to the Supreme Court, and Trump got a ruling against him written by Ruth Bader Ginsburg. And suppose he then said, “she happens to be, we believe, a Jew, which is great, I think that’s fine. Actually, though people don’t like to talk about it, three of the Democrat appointees on the Court who voted against me are Jews. Nothing wrong with it, I’m just saying.”

Aspirants to lead a big, diverse nation cannot talk this way. Richard Nixon did in private, but that was considered a scandal when it came out on his White House tapes. Political campaigns have long used various degrees of racial coding and shading. But we have seen nothing comparable to Trump’s public crudeness from a presidential nominee since at least the time of George Wallace, who in 1968 carried the deep South and won a total of 46 electoral votes.


http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/all/2016/05/the-daily-trump/484064/#note-484787
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‘The Judge, We Believe, Is Mexican’ (Original Post) RogueTrooper May 2016 OP
Trump's racism is really sad Gothmog May 2016 #1
Trump is sorta redefining what the word "bully pulpit" means Bucky May 2016 #2
Teddy Roosevelt, you say? jberryhill May 2016 #3
!! well played Bucky May 2016 #4
He is indeed. He's taking the 'y' out of 'bully'. KamaAina May 2016 #10
Let's not discuss an ongoing court-case, which is embarrassing to Trump supporters Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #5
He's making his report on his alleged donations to vets' organizations WolverineDG May 2016 #6
did he ever answer a direct question? maxsolomon May 2016 #8
he started naming some organizations WolverineDG May 2016 #11
"hey, I'm just askin" maxsolomon May 2016 #7
racist #&@!*! napkinz May 2016 #9
Re-posting: A cogent analysis by Tim WISE UTUSN May 2016 #12
Thx for finding this. nt ProudProgressiveNow May 2016 #14
Great post malaise May 2016 #15
Donald Trump isn't fit to be president of anything. Initech May 2016 #13
Gonzalo Curiel Mendocino May 2016 #16

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
2. Trump is sorta redefining what the word "bully pulpit" means
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:25 AM
May 2016

Teddy Roosevelt wouldn't be "spinning in his grave" if he heard his party getting perverted this way.

He'd be clawing his way up out through the dirt so he could kick Trump's ass

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. Teddy Roosevelt, you say?
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:53 AM
May 2016

"Whatever might be the pretexts alleged for revolt, the real reasons were to be found in the deeply-marked difference of race, and in the absolute unfitness of the Mexicans then to govern themselves, to say nothing of governing others."

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
4. !! well played
Tue May 31, 2016, 09:55 AM
May 2016

I was thinking of Teddy's relative classiness compared to Trump's gutter politics.

But yes, Teddy was not immune to the social darwinism of his day

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
5. Let's not discuss an ongoing court-case, which is embarrassing to Trump supporters
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:04 AM
May 2016

We don't want to offend Trump supporters trying to keep this court-case from the top of the Greatest Page st D.U.

WolverineDG

(22,298 posts)
6. He's making his report on his alleged donations to vets' organizations
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:13 AM
May 2016

man, is he being thin-skinned & passive-aggressive about it. So far, five minutes of blather & so far nothing.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
8. did he ever answer a direct question?
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:30 PM
May 2016

my "news-talk" station just gave up and cut away. which is precisely what Trump wants.

WolverineDG

(22,298 posts)
11. he started naming some organizations
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:09 PM
May 2016

but I didn't recognize any of the names. He would intersperse a name with whining that the press was corrupt & "against" him, so I gave up & watched something on HBO instead.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
7. "hey, I'm just askin"
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:29 PM
May 2016

nothing he says matters. everything is inference; he leaves no targets to attack.

I see no consequences for him continuing to use this language as long as the MSM covers the horse race aspect only.

UTUSN

(70,712 posts)
12. Re-posting: A cogent analysis by Tim WISE
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:28 PM
May 2016


********QUOTE*******

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/anti-racism-expert-explains-trumps-scapegoating-appeal-to-whites-and-it-will-give-you-chills/
[font size=5]Anti-racism expert explains Trump’s scapegoating appeal to whites — and it will give you chills[/font]

.... “If the only reason for Trump’s support was economic anxiety then people of color should be flocking to Trump,” Wise told CNN’s Brian Stelter. “Because black folks, for instance, are twice as likely to be out of work as white folks, three times as likely to be poor, have 1/15 the net worth, nine years less life expectancy in large part due to economic inequality.” ....

Wise likened Trump’s rhetoric to Southerners [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]who say that “the Civil War wasn’t about slavery, it’s about states rights.[/FONT]”

“Yeah, but the right you were fighting for was [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]the right to own people[/FONT],” he noted. “So when the folks in the Trump camp say it’s not about race, ‘Well, I like the fact that [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]he says what’s on his mind.’ Yeah, but you like that he says things about[/FONT] Mexicans and about the Chinese and about black activists in the streets protesting police brutality and he says things about Muslims.”

“In fact, all of those things that people say Trump is about — economics, the straight-shooting, straight-talking guy — all of that still comes back to his perspective on [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]othering[/FONT] other people and saying, ‘They’re your threat, they’re the ones who endanger your job, they’re the ones who are to blame for your lack of safety in the streets.'” ....

“How many in the media have asked Donald Trump or any of his key supporters, ‘Hey what does that hat mean?'” he wondered. “You’re wearing [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]this hat that says ‘Make America Great Again[/FONT]’ — when exactly was America great? And not just for white men with money like Donald Trump.”

“[FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]Name a year for me[/FONT] because I want to know… Because any year you pick is not going to be a great one for anyone but the dominant group.”

********UNQUOTE********

Mendocino

(7,495 posts)
16. Gonzalo Curiel
Tue May 31, 2016, 11:07 PM
May 2016

was born near Chicago, solid career, nominated by Obama and passed senate confirmation with a voice vote in 2012. But in Trumps world this judge is just a "Mexican".

His racism.....

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