They don't think they're racists

[cali]

Freeperville is orgasmic. They uniformly think Trump will win in the biggest blowout since St. Ronnie. But I'm struck by how the hate for Hillary is matched by the hate for Obama which is all about their naked racism which they insist isn't racism. In fact, they insist Obama is the racist.

These are Trump's base.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3435152/posts

[nruthie]

1. Correct.

[Albertoo]

2. dangerously wrong diagnostic

There have always been racists around. Was that enough to win, McCain or Romney would have won.

Why Trump is dangerous is that he's tapping in
- the 2008 economic crisis discontent (->protectionism)
- which fostered a distrust of the establishment (R + D), political financing included

Trump can only be defeated by showing why his solutions do not solve these problems.

My two cents.

[Bluenorthwest]

3. Yeah, it's fairly easy to demonstrate that very wealthy people with personal jet liners are in fact

the Establishment themselves. Trump is Establishment.

[IronLionZion]

28. He worked hard for the jetliner

Trumpers actually believe he's going to help them live like he does some day if only we got rid of the immigrants and feminists and politically correct liberals jealously holding them back.

[reACTIONary]

49. After they get their degree..

... from trump university of course.

[Albertoo]

54. That's part of the solution: making sure to remind people Trump is an insider

[cali]

6. Not worth two cents, no offense.

Obama has enraged and emboldened racists simply because he was elected- twice.

Trump has tapped into xenophobia and white resentment.

And trump can only be defeated by attacking him as unfit to serve.

[Cosmocat]

22. Better alternative

To your final point.

People either get that he is unfit to serve or not, pointing out that he is unfit to serve only makes him more appealing to the jackasses who are supporting him.

The people in the "middle" who are not already voting for him or likely Hillary, they know he isn't fit to serve.

The alternative to that has to be there to give them the other choice.

[Albertoo]

55. Look at opinion polls, pundits echoes: racism is not central to support for Trump

Protectionism, protecting jobs and fear immigrants will tap benefits are what he appeals to.
Racism is a very distant second, especially since both Hillary and Sanders are white.

[ananda]

23. Trump has "solutions" ???

More like the "final solution."

[LiberalLovinLug]

33. "Trump can only be defeated by showing why his solutions do not solve these problems."

Unfortunately you are talking about convincing a crowd whose eyes would glaze over if you started talking real numbers, facts etc..

They are on the level of "Trump make "merica great again!"

[elljay]

39. Agreed

This is PRECISELY the mistake Obama made, and continued to make, for the first years of his presidency. They are incapable of critical thinking, possibly for genetic reasons in many cases, and factual analysis or logic will not convince them. It is best to ignore them and instead spend the time and money encouraging the non-voting part of our population to participate.

[Albertoo]

56. Solutions might include acknowledging Trump is invoking a past that can't be replicated

There's no way in hell the US will ever regain its abnormally high share of the world's GDP

Trump is selling a mirage.

[malaise]

4. From ReTHUGS and media hacks failed to shut down Trump

and birther racism, we knew they are all racists.

[cali]

7. Yep.

[Silver_Witch]

5. Oh my gosh that is the worst site!

Last edited Mon May 30, 2016, 12:13 PM - Edit history (1)

I have never been there and am sorry I have added a click to that site. Yuck now my day is off to a very bad start. I am going to go find the cat post to see if I can feel better. I am of the opinion it is better not to feed such ugliness by responding. There is no hope for those full of such hatred!

[LittleGirl]

17. sorry...you've never been there?

I won't click on the link for the exact reasons you mentioned. I don't need to have my day ruined. Life is rough enough.
Find kitty photos and videos. THAT will make you feel better.

Sorry I didn't warn you first.

[Silver_Witch]

29. No worries!

I guess hatred is everywhere these days. I must prefer not to feed it since I have no idea how to stop it! Therre wasa wonderful Dick van Dyke dancing videodoenthe line which was a relief from the hate. I recommend it for everyone.

[rurallib]

27. that is almost the very same reaction I had with my first trip there

[jtuck004]

8. "These are Trump's base. " If they are correct, and they prevail, they would be "the majority". n/t

[cali]

9. No. They would be the majority of voters.

[msanthrope]

10. Why post to freeperville when you have DUERS who

have the same attitudes?

Freeperville is hopeless. Time to take out the trash, here.

The Stockholm Syndrome thread is a good start.

[retrowire]

13. ... that user was removed a while ago

And the thread is old as sin now.

Beat the dead horse if you must about that stupid comment.

[msanthrope]

40. Those who agreed with him still post everyday. nt

[Martin Eden]

15. You're equating DUers with freepers, which includes the following ...

... post from the freeperville link in the OP:

Terming themselves African-Americans would indicate that they have one foot still in the Dark Continent and the other on the throat of America.

If they keep up their childish destruction of property, their murderous rampages, their birthing babies by the dozen with numerous sperm donors, the race is as doomed as is Venezuela.

I place much of the blame on the dead head of Lyndon Bird Johnson and his lousy Great Society where the traditional father was replaced by a welfare check and food stamps and the mothers and daughters were turned into whores and the sons into illiterate drug dealers.

I am for expansion of the death penalty which would, among other things, include the execution of those who sell and use drugs.

You need to get a grip, and some decency.

[msanthrope]

42. Start with the Stockholm Syndrome thread. and work your way through every thread

that mentions the Confeferacy. Then, I invite you to post in the AA group here about how much better things are, here.

Seriously.....I doubt you'll take up the challenge, but are you prepared to post in the African American group and tell them exactly how much better it is here?

[Martin Eden]

52. That user was removed a while ago, which was already pointed out to you.

Do you seriously think what I quoted from freeperville represents DUers, wouldn't be hidden, and someone who posts racist garbage like that wouldn't soon be banned?

If so, you still haven't gotten a grip. On reality.

I'm not going to take up your "challenge" because so much of what is posted in DU these days is tripe that I wouldn't defend.

But there is a clear difference between that freeper quote and what passes our terms of service here at DU. If you can't see that, you are being willfully blind.

[msanthrope]

53. Those agreeing with him haven't been. nt

[Bluenorthwest]

19. Continued mention of the Stockholm thread without mention of the Bernie supporters like me

and others who castigated that OP furiously is not honest. In fact, that tactic becomes very similar to the tactic of the Stockholm thread itself. That OP targeted African Americans and LGBT. Those of you who cite that OP never, ever mention the LGBT nor that many of us who support Bernie let that OP have the full force of our unhindered criticism.

You continue to use that OP to smear some of the very people who argued best against that OP. Your cohort does that habitually, regularly and it is in fact exploitative to do so. You bash us all with the act of one person. One person many of us objected to more strongly that any others.

It's wrong. And I object to it just as I did to the Stockholm OP itself.

[retrowire]

21. Well said, there were many of us who thought the post was wrong.

But hey, broad brushes. fml

[msanthrope]

43. Bernie supporters who cared so much that they immediately called for the ouster of the OP from the

BS Group?

His banning?

Fyi....I never mentioned Bernie. You did. Defensive, much?

[Silver_Witch]

30. There is not one post on DU that rremotely compare.

Exaggeration does not help your stand.

[msanthrope]

44. Here's a challenge for you.....go post this in the AA group. You know, your opinion

that DU doesn't have posts and posters who remotely compare.

You know.....that's the essence of privilege...assuming you are a good judge of racism that affects others.

[Enthusiast]

35. Show us a post with such racist content.

[msanthrope]

41. Google the Stockholm Syndrome thread. It's infamous. nt

[Enthusiast]

47. Okay. I googled "Democratic Underground Stockholm Syndrome thread."

Maybe you should do it for me because the thread I read didn't say black people were victims of Stockholm Syndrome. It said Hillary voters in general were victims of Stockholm Syndrome.

Did I google up the wrong thread. Maybe you should just provide me with a link.

[NutmegYankee]

11. Somebody actually alerted on this!

Mail Message
On Mon May 30, 2016, 09:47 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

They don't think they're racists
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027866331

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Links to freerepublic should not be allowed on DU, period. We shouldn't be giving them page hits of any kind.
Besides, anyone who has been paying attention already knows that many, if not most, Trump supporters are delusional, racist morons. This isn't news; it's likely just another thinly-veiled "look how much people hate Obama and Clinton" post.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon May 30, 2016, 09:51 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is an interesting alert. I agree with not supporting FR, but the OP is making clear it's racist. I'm saying leave it on this one.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sorry this isn't a hideable post.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This wasn't even worthy of an alert. When the message gets back to me, I'm going to alert on the alerter.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Um....
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[greiner3]

24. Me thinks a freeper wants this hid

Or maybe a low info DUer???? Hell, if the latter, do they alert on every Fox News link

[Festivito]

31. 6-1 that we are not yet so poor and cowardly to fear clicking to see for ourselves.

I will now bravely step into the shower.

[CanonRay]

12. You could have stopped with "The don't think.

Period.

[retrowire]

14. i ain't clicking that. nt

[Fast Walker 52]

16. this is the standard wing nut mentality. They refuse to face facts and forget so much history that

is convenient for them to forget.

[Different Drummer]

18. Taking their remarks with a grain of...

salt since one of them referred to the thirty-sixth President of the United States as "Lyndon Bird Johnson."

[Feeling the Bern]

20. Christ, those people do take good drugs.

[AgingAmerican]

25. Meth is the drug of choice of white trash Republicans

[Feeling the Bern]

26. Maybe they should switch to Krokodil.

[Enthusiast]

48. There are some incredibly misinformed citizens. Then they smoke meth.

[libodem]

32. Unreadable cesspool

[Odin2005]

34. Holy God, Freeperland STILL looks like the late 90s!

[NoMoreRepugs]

36. I read a number of the comments at the site - reinforces my observation

that the goobers and gomers in America will believe ANYTHING

[stonecutter357]

37. why are you linking a racist trashy website like that on DU?

[cali]

38. Know thy enemy.

[gregcrawford]

45. It is not possible...

... to rehabilitate a psychopath. Nor is it possible to change the minds of the kind of mutant filth that wallow in a putrid cesspool like Free Republic.

I do not like, nor do I trust, Hillary Clinton. But Hillary on her worst day is many orders of magnitude better than that piece of shit, Trump, on his best day.

I am a stalwart Bernie supporter, and not just because he is one of my senators, or that I have met and spoken with him, or that he intervened personally (and successfully) on behalf of a friend's veteran son at my request. I am a stalwart Bernie supporter because, after following his career closely for forty years, I KNOW, from personal experience, that he is an honest man. But if he doesn't win, I will support Hillary.

The people that REALLY piss me off are the sanctimonious twits among Bernie's supporters who say they will not support Clinton if she wins the nomination. The hubris of such a short-sighted decision is beyond belief. To put the nation at risk of a Trump presidency just because they didn't get their own way reflects an infantile selfishness that cannot be condoned under such dire circumstances.

[harrose]

46. It's easy to remember... ALL Rethugs are racists.

[yuiyoshida]

51. I won't visit Freeperville

I can only stand being called a "Chink" so many times a day...

[Wounded Bear]

57. Self awareness is not strong in those folks...

They claim that it isn't true, but their actions speak far louder than their protests of being somehow misunderstood.