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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNew Yorker cover hits the nail on the head for new graduates
My first job after graduation was as a waiter in a Times Square steak house. It lasted eight years, R. Kikuo Johnson said, of his cover for this weeks issue, Commencement. Around this time of year, Id see lots of caps and gowns coming into the restaurant with their proud parents. Those were definitely moments of reflection. Johnson graduated from the Rhode Island School of Design, in 2003. He now supports himself as an artist and lives in Brooklyn. After an initial move to Williamsburg, hes on his second combination studio/living space in Bed-Stuy: My rent is good right now and Im not worriedthe landlord likes me, he said with a smile. He also commutes to Providence, Rhode Island, to teach at his alma mater: Its not just meId say most of the other teachers at RISD are also alumni. Thats what made me think of this image.
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/cover-story-2016-05-30
It's interesting to see all the different covers over the last 100 years. Shows how a degree is worthless now.
madokie
(51,076 posts)Thanks to a certain ex-president.
LiberalArkie
(15,728 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)elfin
(6,262 posts)Just love it. When prices got out of sight, I planned for an hour to get thru the phone labyrinth to speak to a "real" person and then explain the treasure of being a long-term subscriber to obtain at least $20 off the best deal publicized.
My second fave is Vanity Fair, but that is really inexpensive, due to heavy ad buys.
Love the Borowtz Report as well on the FaceBook newsfeed.
Triana
(22,666 posts)Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Not a bad job really.
I understand what they are trying to say, but I think this misses the mark.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Absolutely loves his job, decent pay (for Mississippi, at least), and great benefits.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)I'm in a landscaping program and many people go from there to the groundskeepers on campus, it's a great place to get experience and still be somewhat 'safe' in your job before heading out for your own business.
This cartoon failed to make it's point. (And anyone who thinks it did needs to look at their perspective, we see grounds keeping as a "bad" profession right now because guess who mostly fills that job?)
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Borderline racist, as a majority of landscaping jobs are filled by Hispanic, often immigrants.
GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)-former landscaper of 4 years
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)My oldest daughter just graduated from college a couple of weeks ago, and she had a job lined up before she started her senior year last fall.
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)still have better options than those with only high school.
LisaM
(27,827 posts)I do value my degree, though. It's been an asset, even though the benefits aren't really financial. I sometimes think people are pursuing college for the wrong reasons. Obviously this isn't the same if you are going to medical or law school, but the professions are in a different bucket.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)Education and learning are never "worthless." Quite the contrary.
And it is really sad that so many DUer's apparently agree with that sentiment.
enough
(13,262 posts)He's able to "support himself as an artist," which not many artists can do, has a job teaching at his old school, and has a cover on the New Yorker, which is a pretty good gig for any graphic artist. He should feel good, and it sounds like he does.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,210 posts)Even the best young artists go through a period of having day jobs (or night jobs) to pay the rent.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)We are fed up and the PTB are scared because we refuse to accept our lot.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Huh.
noneko
(33 posts)Then they can't get a job at all in any specialty.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Good luck finding one that doesn't require 3-5 years of professional experience.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)noneko
(33 posts)and you're less than 1% likely to get it.
Especially if you have a Latino or African American name because of unconscious bias.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)This isn't a new worry
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)That lasted for 3 years with no end in sight. Eventually, I self-apprenticed as an auto mechanic, a move which brought me more income before or since. I don't regret spending 6 years at two major universities; income isn't everything. But if one wants to settle into a career track requiring a degree(s), odds are aganst you, now. With costs for school so high, I cannot recommend carte blanche getting a four-year degree if incme and a secure career are your goals. In those terms, my most "productive" education was a typing course and an array of high school industrial arts courses.