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Seedersandleechers

(3,044 posts)
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:25 PM May 2016

Alabama church members smoke pot, eat mushrooms and peyote: those are the sacraments

An Alabama church founded last year has a legal exemption for its members to smoke marijuana and ingest hallucinogenic mushrooms and peyote cactus, according to Christopher Rushing, who is listed as chief executive officer.

The Oklevueha Native American Church of Inner Light in Warrior has been licensed as a federally registered branch of the Oklevueha Lakota Sioux Nation Native American Church, Rushing said. "We are the only federally registered people allowed to have these sacraments," he said in interview with AL.com.

The church has a religious exemption to use psylocibin mushrooms and peyote cactus, both of which have properties that augment traditional Native American spiritual beliefs and experiences, Rushing said. He calls their use in religious ceremonies a sacrament.


http://www.al.com/living/index.ssf/2016/05/alabama_church_members_smoke_p.html


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Alabama church members smoke pot, eat mushrooms and peyote: those are the sacraments (Original Post) Seedersandleechers May 2016 OP
How do I apply to be a member of this church? Initech May 2016 #1
churches as a rule welcome Seedersandleechers May 2016 #3
Not sure about membership requirements Major Nikon May 2016 #4
Not too hard if you share their customs. Seedersandleechers May 2016 #11
You might be able to join, but you might not be able to legally participate Major Nikon May 2016 #17
Native Americans were using peyote in religious ceremonies at least 3500 years before Christ Major Nikon May 2016 #2
It's just that the executive of the church Seedersandleechers May 2016 #7
Here's the executives of my tribe Major Nikon May 2016 #9
They should be allowed to do so. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #5
The government fought with the tribes over this for many years Major Nikon May 2016 #12
The link between altered states of consciousness and religious experience is hardly new. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #14
I'm guessing you're a bittorrent fan, OP. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #6
I was brought up to Seedersandleechers May 2016 #13
Right on. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #15
Wow. Always thought I was an atheist. Guess I was wrong. eom fleabiscuit May 2016 #8
Yeah well, Seedersandleechers May 2016 #10
praise the orb spanone May 2016 #16
I'm gonna push my Presbyterian congregation to do this LanternWaste May 2016 #18

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
4. Not sure about membership requirements
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:49 PM
May 2016

But to be exempt from the law you have to be a card carrying member of a Native American tribe, for starters.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
17. You might be able to join, but you might not be able to legally participate
Fri May 20, 2016, 12:25 AM
May 2016

The last time I checked, the SCOTUS exemption from drug laws only applied to tribal members under certain circumstances. I'm not sure if that has changed. Sometimes the rules are different if you're within the boundaries of a federally defined reservation, so there may be other exceptions.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
2. Native Americans were using peyote in religious ceremonies at least 3500 years before Christ
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:47 PM
May 2016

The Native American Church has been in operation about 100 years and was granted an exception to the prosecution for hallucinogenic substances about 25 years ago by the US Supreme Court.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_Church#United_States_law

Seedersandleechers

(3,044 posts)
7. It's just that the executive of the church
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:56 PM
May 2016

doesn't look like a medicine man or native american, but rather an old hippie - not that it matters.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
5. They should be allowed to do so.
Thu May 19, 2016, 11:53 PM
May 2016

And so should everybody else, because peoples' consciousness belongs to themselves, not the government. Seems "self-evident", as it were.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
12. The government fought with the tribes over this for many years
Fri May 20, 2016, 12:18 AM
May 2016

Ultimately it was decided by the SCOTUS.

Interestingly, Native American tribes may blow the proverbial lid off cannabis legalization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_on_American_Indian_reservations

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
14. The link between altered states of consciousness and religious experience is hardly new.
Fri May 20, 2016, 12:22 AM
May 2016

The idea that governmental authoritarians have tried to outlaw it for a century or so is positively Un-American.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
18. I'm gonna push my Presbyterian congregation to do this
Fri May 20, 2016, 09:47 AM
May 2016

I'm gonna push my Presbyterian congregation to do this. Softball games and pot lucks could be a little more fun this way.

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