Jodie Foster on taxing the rich and poverty

[ErikJ]

[msongs]

1. easy peasey jodie. you and bernie, being exceedingly well off, can just pay more taxes :-) nt

[zalinda]

3. Bernie is well off?

I would think Hillary could buy both Jodie and Bernie 5 times over and still have change left.

Z

So, apparently, you got yours, so screw the rest of them.

[NobodyHere]

6. 6 figure salary and a nice pension for the rest of his life.

I'd say he's well off.

[zalinda]

9. And what about Hillary? eom

[NobodyHere]

11. She's well off too

[cali]

13. Uh no. She's very, very wealthy.

[PeaceNikki]

105. And they pay an effective federal tax rate over 35% - about triple the Sanders'

[cali]

106. So what? What I find disturbing is their greed

So unnecessary for Bill, for instance, making paid speeches after she got in the race. Just as bad, her making paid speeches when she knew she'd be a candidate.

It's a minor thing comparatively, but perplexing.

[PeaceNikki]

109. So what, indeed.

[WhiteTara]

127. Didn't her returns show a 35% rate?

[ErikJ]

10. Bernie's the poorest Senator in US Congress.

I think his net worth is only like $3-500K. Hillary and the 1% are in a whole different league. Bernie's even close to that kind of rich.

Then billionaires are in a whole other league. the top .1%. These are who she's mostly talking about. They hoard their wealth in offshores to compete for the Forbes annual richest list. Money becomes a scorecard for them. ........While vets sleep in the bushes.

[NobodyHere]

14. He's not the poorest

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/overview.php?type=W&year=2014&filter=S&sort=A

And having 500k in savings, six figure salary, and a very good pension is well off IMO.

[ErikJ]

15. He might be in the top 10% but thats far from top 1%

Besides he's been actively advocating to have taxes on the rich increased to top rate of 55% mostly on the top 5-1% I believe, which is still WAY below the 1950's under Eisenhower 92% when we had the largest expansion of the middle class in US history.
Hillary not so much.

Low taxes on the rich allow and encourage them to hoard and stash their cash which damages the US economy and creates poverty.

[NobodyHere]

17. Now you're shifting the argument.

[ErikJ]

18. Yes he's well off compared to those in the lower 20%

but like I said. His wealth or well-offness is nothing compared to those in the top 1% especially the billionaires. But he doesnt flaunt his moderate wealth and I'm sure he'd be comfortable on much less. Hell, billionaire Democrat Warren Buffet lives in the same house he bought in 1960 and his favorite restaurant is a hamburger joint. Which is prob why he's also advocating for higher taxes on the rich too.

[CentralMass]

79. She is worth about $31.3 million.

http://moneynation.com/hillary-clinton-net-worth/
Hillary Clinton net worth vs Bernie Sanders net worth: 59 times larger.

Hillary Clinton net worth vs median U.S. household net worth: 459 times larger.

[cui bono]

117. Shifting it back from your deflection.

You really think Bernie is the cause of poverty? You need some perspective.

.

[NobodyHere]

119. When did I say that?

[MariaThinks]

26. yes, let's vote for the least successful and the poorest.

[FuzzyRabbit]

40. No, let's vote for

candidates who best reflect our values and represent our interests.

I doubt that personal wealth (or lack thereof) is meaningful when it comes to who will govern the best.

[Silver_Witch]

92. This!!!

[blackspade]

58. So I guess Trump is your guy then....

Are you sure you're on the correct site?

[ejbr]

86. Zing! n/t

[Scootaloo]

78. Another one for the FFR pile, looks like n/t

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

35. If you can't buy several congress critters

and put a few hundred thousand into a PAC, you aren't even in the same ballpark as Hillary.

Hill and Bill - now, they could buy quite a bit of influence.

[rhett o rick]

77. Hillary has $150,000,000 putting her and Bill in the top 1% OF THE TOP 1%. But I'm guessing that's

why you like her. Some believe the the wealthy are closer to god and the poor are just collateral damage in the Capitalistic System. We usually call these people Republicons, but the disease has crept into the Democratic Party.

[elljay]

29. Rich vs wealthy

I once heard a good description of the difference between being rich and being wealthy. The basketball or baseball player who has a 10 million contract is rich. The guy who owns the entire team is wealthy.

Having a net worth of 500K and a pension makes one comfortable at a reasonable level. It does not allow one to drive a McLaren, own an island or a jet, mingle with the upper crust at the country club or get an invitation to the World Economic Forum in Davos. It most certainly is not enough to handle catastrophic medical expenses or long-term care for a loved one without an expensive insurance policy. The distance between the moderately affluent and the wealthy is a vast chasm.

[ErikJ]

30. Then there's the uber-rich like Paul Allen

who owns more wealth than all other team owners combined. I'll try to remember your good example.

[leftofcool]

32. Where are his tax returns from previous years so we can see for ourselves?

[truebluegreen]

50. Too funny.

So we have moved on from racist, misogynist / sexist, and/or violent to tax cheat. But a few months back some of your allies on this site were berating him for not being wealthier (how can we trust him with the federal budget if he can't handle his own finances?!!1??). It seems this is just the latest poo-slinging meme.

How 'bout those transcripts, hmmm?

[Fla Dem]

45. Let's see those tax returns. Jane still working on them?

[blackspade]

60. Transcripts.....

Are they ready for release?

[Herman4747]

108. I personally want to know what your beloved...

candidate promised Goldman Sachs, promises so noteworthy that SHE KEEPS THEM SECRET, promises so noteworthy that GOLDMAN SACHS PAID HER $675,000.

Such promises tend to make tax returns to be a bit on the completely trivial side, don't you think?

[whathehell]

59. He's the poorest member of the Senate..A $200,000 a year salary may make

one relatively "well off", but if you think his bank account is anywhere NEAR that of Clinton's, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

[NobodyHere]

61. Actually NO

He's not the poorest member of the Senate

Give a link or STFU

[whathehell]

65. Actually, YES

Show YOUR link or STFU.

[7962]

69. BOTH of you, enough. According to Politifact, he's #83

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/apr/14/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-says-hes-one-poorer-members-united-/

Although most who rank below him are considered to be "negative" net worth.

He doesnt have much. Anyone his age with the salary he's had should be worth far more by just investing conservatively. Some view it as a positive, some as a negative.

[Yupster]

96. Having a negative net worth would scare me

My priority would be to get my own house in order and create some stability for my family before deciding to run for some leadership position.

It worked for me, but then again, I'm not in any leadership position, and won't ever be in one.

[7962]

99. I know!! Definitely before you "retire", have the house & car paid for.

Thats my opinion anyway. With the 2 biggest monthly costs out of the way, living is a LOT easier.
And i put retire in quotes because it means different things to different people. For me, it means not working for someone else. But I dont think I would do well actually having NO work to do.

[socialist_n_TN]

100. Sounds like a good plan. That was our plan anyway........

Until our respective companies laid us off in our late 50s (wife) and early 60s (myself) and nobody else would hire us for the few years it would take to get the house paid off. So now we're both on early retirement social security and have run through most of our savings. Ain't capitalism grand?

[Yupster]

104. I'm about the same age as you guys

Us old guys should start a thread for young people offering what went right and wrong for us. Maybe we can do some good.

My nuggets of advice to the young are...

1. Don't have kids until you're financially stable.

This has given me opportunities to help my kid that others haven't had. On the other hand, we only had one kid because we waited pretty late to have him, and when I coached Little League, the other dads were much younger than I was.

2. Get a license. Something that not many people have.

This will help your job prospects tremendously.

[7962]

126. I've had to adjust my "plan" too; got laid off in July

And being in my mid 50s its not easy to replace that salary. But I knew it was coming at some point, there just wasnt enough work for me to fill 8 hrs.
But i started doing a few side things years ago because i never trusted ANY job unless it was a govt one, which i could never seem to get. So at least I started out with some income to build on when the surprise came. Still way too early for SS for me though

[zentrum]

66. What is your point?

I assure you that if Bernie's taxes went for single payer, universal college education, infrastructure jobs etc, he'd happily pay more taxes.

[trueblue2007]

71. Bernie & ALL POLITICIANS are rich. GREAT salary, benefits & GREAT pension for the rest of their live

[closeupready]

7. If DU is a shadow of what it once was, it's these drive-by's like this

that have contributed to its decline.

[dhill926]

8. no kidding...

happens on both sides...disgusting. I may have to trash everything except Weird News pretty soon....

[joeybee12]

38. Sports is safe...

Unless trumad gets in a mood! (think he'll see this??)

[dhill926]

39. well....it is safe from the primary battle....

so far...haha...

[leftofcool]

33. Bernie will never be the nominee. Sanders supporters can vote for who ever they want

I don't think anyone here cares anymore.

[MariaThinks]

36. Agreed. I never thought i'd see such hyporcisy on the left. I'm starting to reevaluate how i

used to feel about anyone on the right.

[lark]

114. Wrong

Some of us care quite a bit. Keeping Drumpf out of the WH is paramount and some of us are very adamant on that point and will vote for HRC holding our noses, if that's what it takes. I'd rather get to vote for Bernie for the 2nd time, sure, but I will do everything humanly possible to ensure that the bloated nasty D is never our president. He would destroy us and walk away laughing at how stupid the public is to let him do that.

[FuzzyRabbit]

43. Why do you think Sanders supporters would vote for any Republican?

This meme that Sanders' supporters will switch to Trump is silly and immature. No serious person thinks this will happen.

I know dozens of Sanders supporters, and none think Trump or any other Republican would be anything other than a disaster for the US and the world.

[socialist_n_TN]

102. I agree. The vast majority of Sanders' supporters will NOT vote for Trump.........

Of course that doesn't mean they're necessarily going to vote for Hillary either. I think the Greens and write-ins are going to have a banner year this November.

[lark]

115. I pray that doesn't happen.

If it does, Drumpf is our president and we can sit and watch him destroy us socially and economically.

[cali]

12. Wow. Impressively shallow with just the right dash of callousness and a splash

of obsessive Hillary centric-ness.

[FailureToCommunicate]

72. +1

[pinboy3niner]

19. I remember a time here when you were not always so negative and bitter

If there was ever a time for an attitude adjustment, this is it. Wish you well!

[FailureToCommunicate]

73. +1

[ornotna]

103. This right here

Watching the change over the years from a tye-dyed kind of guy to this is saddening.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

124. But do you remember a time when he/she did anything else but post douchey post-by one liners? nt

[moondust]

22. Elysium.

Look it up.

[Dont call me Shirley]

23. Divide and Conquer strategy is no longer working.

[Phlem]

28. Wow.

[hay rick]

41. Why raise taxes on the rich when the status quo rocks? nt

[ErikJ]

49. Bernie is only proposing top tax rate of 52%. A full 40% LESS than Republican

President Eisenhower defended. 92%.
The rich dont need to stash more money for a 'scorecard": as they call it. Our country needs it for our infrastructure; human and physical.

[cstanleytech]

51. Odd, could you link where she said she wasnt willing to do that because I missed it. nt

[ladjf]

53. Hmm. Your suggestion is exactly what the rich Republicans have been

saying for years. I've never heard a Democrat make that suggestion.

[blackspade]

57. I'm sure they would.

Apparently you, not so much....

[7962]

68. You obviously dont know what youre talking about re: Sanders

Just google it.
He's not rich. Far from it

Jodie Foster, of course, is another story

[rhett o rick]

75. And I bet they'd neither one mind. It's those involved in the greedy pursuit of weatlh (mammon)

that are the danger. While you support the rich and powerful, their actions are causing more and more poverty. Tell us you care.

[Scootaloo]

76. Ironic, given your candidate makes ninety thousand times the minimum wage in twenty minutes

And then tells workers oh, they're not worth $15.

[Bohemianwriter]

82. But not hedge fund managers and Hillary, right?

They should get their tax breaks while Jodie and Bernie with the vast fortunes take the whole thing. After all, she only has 150 million and using a tax haven like Delaware to avoid taxes. Let's make Bernie and Jodie pay for the poor. Those are burdens that Hilary and her supporters shoud not have to carry.

Let us make taxes volunteriy.

let us continue to let private interersts dictate the terms. Because as we all know, the poor attacking the rich is pure envy.

And we should not be so hard on Wall Street. They are innocent victims of leftie violence, intimidation and envy. Those pesky OWS should go get a job rather than spewing out leftie hate towards the successfu job creators.

Because taxes are theft unless you make a leftie or a working class stiff pay. Then it's called "common sacrifice"...

Since when was it a progressive stand to be against progressive taxation?

Perhaps Hillary and her supporters are not progressive at all, but in name only?

You RW "dems" talk about "free stuff" and think that the money Hillary takes from Wall Street and other places doesn't have stringts attached to it. In other words, Hillarybots are in favor of getting free money to win elections to stop the popuation from getting "free stuff" like healthcare and education. Two luxury items we don't really need.

Why are Hiarybots against investing in a country's future through education and securing it with promoting common welfare while being for getting free money from large corporations at the same time?

Can any Hillarysupporter explain that to me?

One more question:

What happened to the money Hillary colected in Holywood last month?

Did it all go to the "down ticket", or did most of it go directly back to Hillary so she could pay online trolls to smear Bernie and hype up a proffessional liar whom have more in common with the Bushies than OWS?

[stupidicus]

88. my my whatta stunning/stirring defense of our monied masters she assaulted

this likely explains in no small way your Clinton support, no?

How long have you been a part of the aristocracy team?

[MH1]

90. Of course they can. And should. Isn't she basically saying that?

So, what's your point?

I'd personally be happy to pay a higher tax rate, as a relatively well-off person. (Not near Jodie, Bernie, or Hillary, but relatively better off than a lot of people). It would just have to be fairly and progressively applied - higher rates for higher income/wealth. Keeping in mind that many of the very wealthy don't necessarily have high taxable income.

[Marr]

91. I swear to god, HRC fans seem to offer the most braindead GOP talking points without any hint

of irony.

[Enriched]

132. Taxing wages, profit or intellectual property, is unjust

Taxing someone is like punishing the kid who gets the good grades, or the athlete who wins a race.
.
What should be controlled is Monopoly, so the market is Free, and everyone has an equal economic opportunity.
.
When you are born, all Land and Natural Resources are already owned by someone.
That's a collective Monopoly.
.
It's like turning up at a game of Monopoly late, when all the properties on the board have already been allocated to players, and you are told to buy your way into the game with only the $200 you get from passing "GO" each round.
.
You are not starting off in a Free Market, you are starting off in a Monopolised Market.
.
Anyone who still thinks you should now be taxed on the $200 you earn, is too stupid to breathe oxygen by themselves.
.
If you want to make the Monopoly game and all players economically equal, then the rents charged when someone lands on a property, should be divided by the number of players in the game, and distributed equally to all players.
.
Then being the richest player, would come down to strategy, skills and lucky chances,
and no player would be excluded from the game.
.
Charge Rent on the Economic Value of Land and natural resources,
and use it for public purpose, or distribute it equally as a Universal Income to everyone.
.
It's called Georgism, after the American politician and economic philosopher, Henry George,
who proposed it in his best selling book, "Progress and poverty", published in 1879.
.
Proponents of his system discuss it as Land Value Tax (LVT), or Earth Sharing, or Geoism.
.
It's universally agreed that it's the cheapest method of collecting revenue, and the most unavoidable.
.
It was used very successfully in Denmark.
.

[Beartracks]

133. Hi, Rush. I don't listen to your show, but...

... I do know that your off-hand suggestion that rich liberals should just shut up and pay more taxes if they want to is not a solution to national income inequality, which is a systemic issue. But I suspect you already know that; it just doesn't fit your agenda.

And I'm sorry if this is actually Hannity; you two are kind of hard to tell apart in online forums.

===============

[NightWatcher]

2. When I read it I heard it in my head as read by Clarice Starling

I'm damaged

[0rganism]

5. lol i heard it as Hannibal Lecter

and i tacked on a Hannibal-style "Clarisse" at the end too

even more damaged

[msanthrope]

16. I thought of fava beans. nt

[leftofcool]

52. With red wine?

[msanthrope]

83. A nice Chianti. Nt

[closeupready]

4. That's a brilliant way of putting it, I never thought about it that way before.

I don't agree 100%, but there is an underlying truth here that applies to some, not all. Also the fact that poverty exists in every society, whether communist, capitalist, or any other kind. But K&R

[Wednesdays]

120. Whether communist, capitalist, or any other kind of society,

mankind still has a moral obligation to lessen poverty by as much as possible.

[Wounded Bear]

20. I always figured her for a pretty smart woman...

Well said, Jodie!

[tavernier]

21. Why does every stinkin' post in DU

have to turn into a Bernie/Hillary fight??

[stillwaiting]

31. Tis the season!

I do not see any fights so I must have the right person(s) on ignore!

[Dont call me Shirley]

24. Get this truth: The uber-rich CREATE poverty!

[Nye Bevan]

54. JK Rowling has made us all poorer? (nt)

[Dont call me Shirley]

55. No doubt JK gives more away to needy causes while the banksters, mineral extractors, casino

magnates, war profiteers and fossil fuel billionaires are all stashing their billions offshore while preparing how to hoard more.

[dflprincess]

67. J.K. Rowling has also made it clear that she won't leave the U.K. to avoid taxes

she doesn't like the example it would set for her children and she has said she is grateful the welfare system was there when she needed it and she will support it for others.

She's an example to anyone, any where who whines about paying taxes.

[RichVRichV]

128. Exactly, I don't resent people simply for making money.

I resent people who harm others in order to make more money (which is sadly the majority of the wealthy, and sometimes not the wealthy).



Remember, money isn't considered the root of all evil, the love of money is.

[HughBeaumont]

87. For every JK Rowling, there are a few dozen Sheldon Adelsons.

THAT's the problem.

[SkyIsGrey]

113. Example/Rule

nt

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

25. "They create it and maintain it." ...

Don't you mean, "we", Jodie?

Or maybe not "all" the rich?

[AZ Progressive]

34. I bet noone ever figured to confirm that this quote was in fact from Jodie Foster

I haven't seen evidence yet to say it is.

[valerief]

64. No need to divert from the actual point of the post. It's not Jodie but the hoarding by the rich. nt

[ananda]

37. That is one smart woman!

Thank you, Ms. Foster!

You're the best!

[Oneironaut]

42. Where and when did she say this?

"After inventing time travel, I've learned but one truth. Most quotes on the Internet are fake." - Abraham Lincoln

[phazed0]

44. Ha!

I can't find it either.

[pinboy3niner]

46. Could be in interviews about her new film, 'Money Monster' nt

[Oneironaut]

47. Problem is, I don't see it attributed to her anywhere.

It would be cool if it were, but most of these meme posters are pure fiction.

If you (or anyone else) could find where she actually said this, it would happily prove me wrong.

[Maven]

110. DU used to follow basic attribution rules

Now it's a free-for-all with people treating GD like their Facebook feed. Posters of these unattributed "quote cards" are among the worst offenders.

[Wednesdays]

121. See post #64.

nt

[Oneironaut]

131. So why not just have the quote, then?

Attributing quotes to people who didn't say those quotes is dishonest - both to the people reading the quote and to the person it was attributed to. I know Jodie Foster probably isn't reading DU and wouldn't care anyways, but the inaccuracy of these memes is annoying and takes away from the message. I do believe DU should maintain a sense of journalistic integrity.

If the point is the message and not the person, why attribute it to a person at all (let alone the wrong person)?

[ReRe]

48. K&R

Thanks, Jodie (and ErikJ)! Great little poster. I agree totally!

Tax the rich! Tax the rich! Tax the rich!

[blackspade]

56. Thank you Ms Foster.

Well said.

[Akamai]

62. Jodie -- I have always admired you! I admire you more!!! Great!

[valerief]

63. They create it and maintain it. She hit it right on the nail! nt

[libodem]

70. Damn!

[Generic Brad]

74. Thus said the woman with a net worth of $100 million

[larkrake]

80. She and Anjolina Jolie are quality women, the kind who could rule a nation very well

[Angel Martin]

81. eat the rich !

Jodie Foster recently sold this house in Beverley Hills.

?456dc5

[Wednesdays]

122. And therefore disqualifies her from saying anything?

[Angel Martin]

130. $100 million net worth

"The rich aren't just indifferent to poverty; they create and maintain it."

How is one supposed to interpret a statement like this from someone with $100 million dollars?

does it apply to her ?
is she confessing that she is indifferent to poverty ?
is her wealth creating and maintaining poverty?
does she actually behave differently than other rich people ?
is this gauche caviar virtue signalling without any action behind it ?

[LittleGirl]

84. This is making the rounds on FB. Love it. eom

[Enthusiast]

85. Kicked and recommended! nt

[stupidicus]

89. she should just shutup and pay more taxes

is the most common defense used by supporters of what she'd tear down

[clarice]

93. Jodie Foster net worth $100,000,000.00

Couldn't paste the link...but you can look it up.

[liberalnarb]

94. I don't have a problem with someone being super rich if they're willing to pay more in taxes than

the middle and lower class.

[clarice]

95. Yes...sometimes it's polite to just say "thank you".nt

[tenderfoot]

97. In other words - she's a lot smarter and works a lot harder than you

you sound jealous.

[clarice]

98. What a nasty thing to say...shame on you.nt

[HOPNOSH]

129. I love you

Thank you.

[Wednesdays]

123. So, after a certain net worth you should just shut up.

Is that it?

[clarice]

125. Make of it what you will. I'm not in the mood to play today. Peace

[liberal N proud]

101. That's rich

Jodie Foster Net Worth: $100 Million
http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/celeb/jodie-foster-net-worth/

[TIME TO PANIC]

111. And?

[Maven]

107. Source?

[Pacifist Patriot]

112. I agree with the sentiment, but I'm not sure it's accurately attributed to her.

I've seen the quote super-imposed on a number of images and always without attribution. I tried to find somewhere that attributes it to her with no luck.

[Uncle Joe]

116. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, ErikJ.

[KamaAina]

118. I wish I had met her when I had the chance.

We are both members of the Yale College Class of 1985, but she shunned campus life and tended to hang out on a wall with the local punk-rockers.