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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/?ex_cid=538twitter
Really detailed self-analysis of Five Thirty Eight and Trump by Nate Silver.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)2016 has been a screw-up year for Nate Silver.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)Just because he's not predicting the candidate you may want as well as you'd like isn't enough to call it a screw up year.
The FiveThirtyEight polls-only model has correctly predicted the winner in 52 of 57 (91 percent) primaries and caucuses so far in 2016, and our related polls-plus model has gone 51-for-57 (89 percent). Furthermore, the forecasts have been well-calibrated, meaning that upsets have occurred about as often as theyre supposed to but not more often.
If there is anyone that's got a better record than this I sure haven't seen it.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)But I don't trust him anymore. I think he plays pundit a whole lot more than he lets on.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Not every writer is willing to be so thoughtful about such matters.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)And I understood most of it.
Good writer.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)I would expect nothing less. Even the conservative forecasters admit it when they botch it.
edit: and nice of him to admit the arbitrary polls plus was less accurate than his old model.
Angel Martin
(942 posts)my interest in modelling and forecasting comes from financial markets.
One of the conclusions I have come to is that wrt black swans (improbable but consequential events) the experts are basically useless.
They are using past data and trying to find a model that minimizes forecast error.
one of the things you quickly see in financial markets forecasting is that models that are even capable of forecasting extreme events like black swans, are useless in forecasting "normal" times. I'm sure the same is true for election models.
A good example from financial markets is current interest rates. Interest rates are at a 5000 year low. Negative interest rates are now widespread in europe and japan.
No-one forecast negative rates, of course. And economic forecasters are simply ignoring negative rates, since they have no precedent, so no way to quantify their impact.
I don't know what kind of economy follows from negative rates.
But I bet that when we find out, we are not going to like the answer.