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joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
Mon May 16, 2016, 06:51 PM May 2016

PHUCK!!!!! That baby bison was euthanized because the mother rejected it

(Reuters) - Yellowstone National Park managers on Monday warned visitors to leave wildlife alone after two tourists put a newborn bison calf in their car, touching off a string of events that led to the animal's death.

The visitors from outside the United States came across the baby bison alone last week and decided to drive the calf to a park facility, unaware that interference with newborn animals could cause their mothers to reject them, park managers said in a statement.

Yellowstone rangers repeatedly tried to reunite the calf with the herd but those efforts failed. Ultimately, the abandoned calf was euthanized because it repeatedly approached people and cars along the roadway, raising safety concerns, officials said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/yellowstone-issues-warning-visitors-put-baby-bison-car-201807614.html

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PHUCK!!!!! That baby bison was euthanized because the mother rejected it (Original Post) joeybee12 May 2016 OP
Damn. And all these "do-gooders" got was a citation? I hope there is a hefty fine attached. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #1
Sickening malaise May 2016 #2
It's likely the only reason they could do what they did was the animal was doomed. ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #9
Every year people find new born fawns and bring them in for 'saving'. KittyWampus May 2016 #10
Bison are not deer ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #16
I read your lengthy post last night and learned a lot of things libdem4life May 2016 #26
I'm wondering if she'd already rejected it in the first place. Brickbat May 2016 #3
That would be my guess - I doubt they would have successfully loaded it in petronius May 2016 #5
Good point. To be honest, I don't like the public shaming these people are getting. MH1 May 2016 #6
I hate this recent trend towards public shaming. alarimer May 2016 #24
Could be, but I've lived in Yellowstone for 3 years... joeybee12 May 2016 #7
I don't think so. It is more likely that bison are like deer. Drop their babies wherever KittyWampus May 2016 #13
They're not. Brickbat May 2016 #14
Okay. KittyWampus May 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Colors May 2016 #4
If the poor thing was rejected it may have already had a defect of some kind. alphafemale May 2016 #8
Nature is not cruel gladium et scutum May 2016 #18
The outcome can be cruel. woolldog May 2016 #19
yes, that is true gladium et scutum May 2016 #20
Nature is very cruel. LostOne4Ever May 2016 #23
So, there wasn't a way to save the baby by bottle feeding it? MagickMuffin May 2016 #11
No. Brickbat May 2016 #12
Well that explains that, however, has anyone tried doing this MagickMuffin May 2016 #15
As Yellowstone rangers know all too well, people are fucking stupid. backscatter712 May 2016 #21
This is the saddest news I have heard all day. Quantess May 2016 #22
I do not disagree GulfCoast66 May 2016 #25

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
9. It's likely the only reason they could do what they did was the animal was doomed.
Mon May 16, 2016, 07:35 PM
May 2016

They were wrong in what they did, but they were probably not wrong that the animal was in bad shape.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
10. Every year people find new born fawns and bring them in for 'saving'.
Mon May 16, 2016, 07:42 PM
May 2016

"Oh, the poor abandoned fawn."

The reality is females drop their babies anywhere when the time comes, leave them during the day and come back at night to nurse them.

People need to learn to leave new born animals where they are. It's almost never abandoned or in need.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
16. Bison are not deer
Mon May 16, 2016, 07:55 PM
May 2016

They herd and the mothers are very defensive. They also wouldn't freely approach humans if they were attached to a herd.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
26. I read your lengthy post last night and learned a lot of things
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:33 AM
May 2016

I did not know. I've never encountered any of this, but now I know what Not to do.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
5. That would be my guess - I doubt they would have successfully loaded it in
Mon May 16, 2016, 07:22 PM
May 2016

the car with an attentive mother bison nearby.

Sad story, but one that I'm sure plays out dozens/scores/hundreds/+ of times in Yellowstone each year (in species across the photogenic spectrum) -- this one is only noticed because of the very-likely-irrelevant involvement of the humans...

MH1

(17,600 posts)
6. Good point. To be honest, I don't like the public shaming these people are getting.
Mon May 16, 2016, 07:22 PM
May 2016

I feel bad because what they did was wrong, but it appears that they went to some trouble to do what they thought was right.

I just don't think people should get dumped on like this when they make a mistake with good intentions. A million animals get killed out of terrible intentions. Let's turn our ire on those people, and think about how we can better communicate about how not to make this mistake. (I know, the Park Service is trying, and has tried, and sometimes it will still fail.)

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
24. I hate this recent trend towards public shaming.
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:15 AM
May 2016

It really feels, well, icky, for lack of a better word.

The piling-on is just so unnecessary. The authorities are dealing with it; I'm sure they have to deal with this sort of thing all the time, unfortunately, because people really don't know.

I think the problem is that people think Yellowstone is more like a zoo than a place where wild animals go. Maybe individual cars should be banned on that road and only tour buses allowed, with guides. (Think African safaris, where access is better controlled).

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
7. Could be, but I've lived in Yellowstone for 3 years...
Mon May 16, 2016, 07:25 PM
May 2016

Baby bison are very active and playful...could have just gone a little farther away while Mom was grazing.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
13. I don't think so. It is more likely that bison are like deer. Drop their babies wherever
Mon May 16, 2016, 07:43 PM
May 2016

they are when the time comes, leave it there during the day and come back at night to nurse.

Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
8. If the poor thing was rejected it may have already had a defect of some kind.
Mon May 16, 2016, 07:28 PM
May 2016

Nature is cruel as fuck.

Herd animals will reject a weak animal.

That doesn't fit the Disney vision of how we want animals to be, but it is how things are.

gladium et scutum

(807 posts)
20. yes, that is true
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:27 PM
May 2016

Nature is neutral in the outcome. The wolf must kill to live, for the wolf to live, another animal must die. If the wolf cannot make the kill, it will die, the prey will live.

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
23. Nature is very cruel.
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:18 AM
May 2016

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]The original smokey the bear can attest to that.

Lost his family and was burned in a forest fire.[/font]

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
11. So, there wasn't a way to save the baby by bottle feeding it?
Mon May 16, 2016, 07:42 PM
May 2016

It seems to me there could have been a way to save it. They do make bottle feeders for calves. I know that we sometimes had to use them when I was a kid living on our little suburban farm.

RIP, baby bison

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
12. No.
Mon May 16, 2016, 07:42 PM
May 2016

It's very, very difficult to raise a bison calf that hasn't been weaned. They're not domesticated.

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
15. Well that explains that, however, has anyone tried doing this
Mon May 16, 2016, 07:45 PM
May 2016

and it just doesn't work.

Sad, sad, sad.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
21. As Yellowstone rangers know all too well, people are fucking stupid.
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:49 PM
May 2016

If the mother was a little quicker on the uptake, those people would have gotten a mention on the Darwin Awards web site.

And the rangers have to put up with this shit all the time.

"Hey little Johnny, want to ride the elk? I'll put you on the one with the big antlers!"

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
22. This is the saddest news I have heard all day.
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:02 AM
May 2016

Those stupid tourists need to do some self-educational community service, if there is such a thing.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
25. I do not disagree
Tue May 17, 2016, 10:24 AM
May 2016

But if they were able to catch it, and not get attacked by its mother, chances are it was doomed already.

And getting killed by wolves is not a great way to go.

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