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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:40 PM May 2016

Trump and Ryan Agree: Let’s Dismantle Social Security

The late Republican presidential nominee and Senator, Barry Goldwater, was anti-Social Security, as was the late President Ronald Reagan, at least before he became president. And, of course, President George W. Bush sought to privatize Social Security.

Revealingly, in a memorandum marked “not for attribution,” but nevertheless leaked, President Bush’s director of strategic initiatives wrote about the effort to dismantle Social Security, “this will be one of the most important conservative undertakings of modern times.” He concluded, “For the first time in six decades, the Social Security battle is one we can win.”

Paul Ryan and his zeal for cutting Social Security is in line with his Party’s history. Since he was elected to the House of Representatives in 1998, these cuts have been his top priority.

Trump has signed on and agrees to cut Social Security.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nancy-altman/trump-and-ryan-agree-lets_b_9992656.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

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Trump and Ryan Agree: Let’s Dismantle Social Security (Original Post) UCmeNdc May 2016 OP
Hillary, former Goldwater girl, will go even further, thus closeupready May 2016 #1
There is absolutely no basis for that remark The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #2
More lies. apcalc May 2016 #3
LOL… It has really gotten to be comical to see how some of you can make ANYTHING into an world wide wally May 2016 #5
A pack of lies meow2u3 May 2016 #6
more lies. KNOCK IT OFF. LIES, LIES trueblue2007 May 2016 #9
We better get used to President Trump because its this BS that will elect him... Feeling the burn... winstars May 2016 #14
Because such is my power! Fear me! Worship me! closeupready May 2016 #19
Funny how??? (lets not lose our sense of humor here on DU) winstars May 2016 #21
That is a bunch of nonsense--she is not going to privatize social security book_worm May 2016 #18
Don't make up stories. Hillary is pushing to expand Social Security. UCmeNdc May 2016 #23
THIS is just one of the things that the GOP would love to work with Hillary on. djean111 May 2016 #4
WTH? Trump said many many times...preserve Social Security nt Laura PourMeADrink May 2016 #7
Trump says whatever he thinks will be popular with his audience muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #16
Making it up as he goes along. Trouble is, millions may have voted Laura PourMeADrink May 2016 #24
shit yeah!!! WITH ALL those checks given to yuiyoshida May 2016 #8
Another "Trump is to the left of ..." topic bites the dust. Everything Trump says are 'suggestions' pampango May 2016 #10
+ 1 red dog 1 May 2016 #13
Paul Ryan doesn't need it anymore gratuitous May 2016 #11
Well stated! red dog 1 May 2016 #15
"Don't Get Trumped" (PETITION) red dog 1 May 2016 #12
You would think this sort of shit would lose him the senior and younger Boomer vote . . . HughBeaumont May 2016 #17
They would have to pay back leftyladyfrommo May 2016 #20
The Cons wet dream, destroying social security. sarcasmo May 2016 #22
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
1. Hillary, former Goldwater girl, will go even further, thus
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:42 PM
May 2016

undercutting claims that Trump/Ryan get stuff done.

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
5. LOL… It has really gotten to be comical to see how some of you can make ANYTHING into an
Mon May 16, 2016, 02:16 PM
May 2016

Anti-Hillary thread.
Good luck with your Donald

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
6. A pack of lies
Mon May 16, 2016, 02:23 PM
May 2016

There's no evidence HRC wants to sabotage Social Security. So quit judging her by the rethugs.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. THIS is just one of the things that the GOP would love to work with Hillary on.
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:49 PM
May 2016

Social Security, trade deals, war - yes, the GOP loves those things just as much as Hillary does.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,318 posts)
16. Trump says whatever he thinks will be popular with his audience
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:04 PM
May 2016

The links in the Huff Post article:

Trump On Social Security In His 2000 Book: A Ponzi Scheme We Must Privatize

Trump Adviser Says He’s Open to Entitlement Program Changes

Policy chief’s remarks appear to contradict Trump’s earlier positions

Donald Trump’s presidential campaign waffled again on the details of its economic policy, with a top adviser suggesting a Trump administration would be open to reductions in Medicare and Social Security spending if the campaign’s tax cuts don’t achieve extraordinary budget surpluses.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-adviser-says-hes-open-to-entitlement-program-changes-1462997756

This is what everyone must learn about Trump: he lies, continuously. He is a conman. His fraud never sleeps.
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. Making it up as he goes along. Trouble is, millions may have voted
Thu May 19, 2016, 03:47 PM
May 2016

thinking he meant what he said the first time - no cuts to SS

Funny, before this time, we would chastise people for flip flopping on events/positions from long before. For him, it may be just a week before.

Really odd to me, being in the business world. Most all of the great executives I have known, never ever shoot off the hip. They never saying anything they aren't sure about or haven't had double and triple checked.

You wonder how he got by in construction/development. did he say "Make that building 20 floors tall." one day and then "make that building 40 stories" the next day.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
8. shit yeah!!! WITH ALL those checks given to
Mon May 16, 2016, 02:36 PM
May 2016

Senior Citizens, they can take that money back and build more BOMBS AND Increase the Military Industrial Complex !!

pampango

(24,692 posts)
10. Another "Trump is to the left of ..." topic bites the dust. Everything Trump says are 'suggestions'
Mon May 16, 2016, 02:45 PM
May 2016

and 'performance art' to win the republican nomination. He stands for nothing. Everything is subject to 'negotiation'.

When right wing populism was required to win their nomination, he was a self-funding, anti-establishment RW populist extraordinaire. Mission accomplished. Now that he needs a billion dollars from the 1%, suddenly his 'suggestions' are changing and don't sound so populist anymore.

He is good at saying enough 'liberal' stuff to get Democrats fighting with each other. Then he contradicts himself the next day to make his conservative base happy but too many liberals never hear that.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. Paul Ryan doesn't need it anymore
Mon May 16, 2016, 02:45 PM
May 2016

He needed it big time when his father died during his teenage years, but ever since then, Paul Ryan has made his career out of pulling the ladder up behind himself for anyone else who might need some help.

As Charlie Pierce says about Ryan, quite often: You're welcome, dickhead.

red dog 1

(27,804 posts)
12. "Don't Get Trumped" (PETITION)
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:46 PM
May 2016

From Social Security Works.org
"Don't Get Trumped" (PETITION)

"Donald Trump's Social Security Flip Flop" (PETITION)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027840358


K&R, thanks for posting, UCmeNdc

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
17. You would think this sort of shit would lose him the senior and younger Boomer vote . . .
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:06 PM
May 2016

. . . but hating Democrats is far more important than human rights, I guess.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
20. They would have to pay back
Wed May 18, 2016, 06:47 PM
May 2016

all the money that millions of people have paid into their accounts for years and years.

SS is not a benefit. Individuals paid into their account. That money would all have to be refundec. That would probably cost billions.

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