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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:15 AM May 2016

CIA ‘Mistakenly’ Destroys Torture Report

The CIA inspector general’s office — the spy agency’s internal watchdog — has acknowledged it “mistakenly” destroyed its only copy of a mammoth Senate torture report at the same time lawyers for the Justice Department were assuring a federal judge that copies of the document were being preserved, Yahoo News has learned.

Although other copies of the report exist, the erasure of the controversial document by the CIA office charged with policing agency conduct has alarmed the U.S. senator who oversaw the torture investigation and reignited a behind-the-scenes battle over whether the full unabridged report should ever be released, according to multiple intelligence community sources familiar with the incident.

The deletion of the document has been portrayed by agency officials to Senate investigators as an “inadvertent” foul-up by the inspector general. In what one intelligence community source described as a series of errors straight “out of the Keystone Cops,” CIA inspector general officials deleted an uploaded computer file with the report and then accidentally destroyed a disk that also contained the document, filled with thousands of secret files about the CIA’s use of “enhanced” interrogation methods.

“It’s breathtaking that this could have happened, especially in the inspector general’s office — they’re the ones that are supposed to be providing accountability within the agency itself,” said Douglas Cox, a City University of New York School of Law professor who specializes in tracking the preservation of federal records. “It makes you wonder what was going on over there?”

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-report-on-cia-torture-1429636113023030.html

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CIA ‘Mistakenly’ Destroys Torture Report (Original Post) n2doc May 2016 OP
Just as they distroyed Ohio evidence in 2004 election theft. ViseGrip May 2016 #1
Everytime that is mentioned I think of malaise May 2016 #46
Oopsie, indeed. dchill May 2016 #2
"The dog ate my homework." nt bemildred May 2016 #3
I wonder what one says... malthaussen May 2016 #12
... "and my report card" ... surrealAmerican May 2016 #32
Does Pagliano work for the CIA now? tk2kewl May 2016 #4
similar response crossed my mind AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #51
all the Clinton supporters Angel Martin May 2016 #55
The public paid for the report, it is a report on criminal activity of criminals The Second Stone May 2016 #5
We are a nation of rogue agencies. Rex May 2016 #6
Prisoner Abuse: Patterns From The Past (The National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book 122) bobthedrummer May 2016 #7
my my my.......lookee at what you found.. dixiegrrrrl May 2016 #28
I've posted from the National Security Archive for at least a dozen years my lady. bobthedrummer May 2016 #47
Most US torture is of the "no-touch" school as used/developed by members of the APA bobthedrummer May 2016 #48
looks like I gotta put you on DU first read group....... dixiegrrrrl May 2016 #49
Such Bullshit libodem May 2016 #8
So are American's stupid enough to believe this? jalan48 May 2016 #9
Doesn't matter elljay May 2016 #24
how many Americans onethatcares May 2016 #44
I doubt it, but who's going to do anything about it? ohnoyoudidnt May 2016 #50
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OnyxCollie May 2016 #10
And if you believe that one, have I got a lovely bridge to sell you. procon May 2016 #11
RIGHT...!!!! kadaholo May 2016 #13
I bet they "hate" it when that happens cyberswede May 2016 #14
This has happened too many times. JDPriestly May 2016 #15
and yet....zero Congressional action about what the CIA does..... dixiegrrrrl May 2016 #31
Feel the Bern! He is the only one with the integrity, the courage, JDPriestly May 2016 #42
Indeed: from here on, every vote and every campaign must be about stopping the status quo. Betty Karlson May 2016 #54
Congress rolled over and is now a lapdog for the CIA. Rex May 2016 #52
No oversight felix_numinous May 2016 #16
Reminds me of CIA man E Howard Hunt planting false cables in WH safe to implicate JFK in Diem murder Octafish May 2016 #17
Nixon's accidnetla erasure of those 18 minutes of tape seem like nothing, now. dixiegrrrrl May 2016 #38
Great news! Snowden, Scahill and The Intercept ROCK! Octafish May 2016 #45
Slipped, tripped, fell down the stairs and accidentally shoved the report in the paper shredder. AtheistCrusader May 2016 #18
No accountability. No repercussions. Gman May 2016 #19
Who guards the guards? rateyes May 2016 #20
And America yawns and goes back to worrying themselves about the genitals of the... ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #21
No backup copy exists at CIA?? Not in any form on any medium? Ford_Prefect May 2016 #22
Reminds me of another 'inadvertent' stretch suffragette May 2016 #23
Rec & Kick. Wow, unbelievable. MerryBlooms May 2016 #25
rrrrrrrrright allan01 May 2016 #26
Go to Recycle Bin -> find report - > Right click - > Restore KeepItReal May 2016 #27
^^^ So. Much. This. ^^^ Hiraeth May 2016 #37
“It makes you wonder what was going on over there?” AlbertCat May 2016 #29
BS n/t Paper Roses May 2016 #30
CIA destroys Report, SOS operates Rogue Server Kittycat May 2016 #33
Well, I hope that Jr. Clerical Clerk that messed up is appropriately admonished!! FighttheFuture May 2016 #34
... Enthusiast May 2016 #40
You mean, like, with a cloth? n/t RufusTFirefly May 2016 #35
a copy must be in hillary's missing emails MariaThinks May 2016 #36
this CIA insult to our intelligence is outrageous ! Angel Martin May 2016 #56
If you believe this you deserve every abuse this government and society hurls at you. Enthusiast May 2016 #39
The Full Report pmorlan1 May 2016 #41
I doubt that charges could be brought, but this appears to be JDPriestly May 2016 #43
They'll be chuckling about this one for a long time! NBachers May 2016 #53
It wasn't destroyed. It was merely rendered to a third nation black site. marble falls May 2016 #57
Just Like With Dubya colsohlibgal May 2016 #58
Just like that time Oswald went to Mexico City. Octafish May 2016 #59
Mission Accomplished! Money Trumps Peace! Long Live Big Brother! The Warren Commission! bobthedrummer May 2016 #60
The story shocked Mark Lane. Octafish May 2016 #61
 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
1. Just as they distroyed Ohio evidence in 2004 election theft.
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:20 AM
May 2016

They have destroyed many torture tapes, against government orders.

They act like others we know...don't they?

malaise

(269,022 posts)
46. Everytime that is mentioned I think of
Mon May 16, 2016, 07:10 PM
May 2016

Mike Connell
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/12/22/republican_it_specialist_dies_in_plane
<snip>
A top Republican internet strategist who was set to testify in a case alleging election tampering in 2004 in Ohio has died in a plane crash. Michael Connell was the chief IT consultant to Karl Rove and created websites for the Bush and McCain electoral campaigns. Michael Connell was deposed one day before the election this year by attorneys Cliff Arnebeck and Bob Fitrakis about his actions during the 2004 vote count in Ohio and his access to Karl Rove’s email files and how they went missing.

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
51. similar response crossed my mind
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:25 PM
May 2016

I think in this day and age that it's only prudent to view missing, withheld, or destroyed documents as prima facie evidence that a crime has been committed - and that those in charge of maintaining the documents are the culprits.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
5. The public paid for the report, it is a report on criminal activity of criminals
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:26 AM
May 2016

who are themselves charged with preserving one of the few copies of crime. Huh. Perhaps it should be released into the public domain.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
6. We are a nation of rogue agencies.
Mon May 16, 2016, 11:26 AM
May 2016

So who is in control again? Sure always seems like the CIA and MIC.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
48. Most US torture is of the "no-touch" school as used/developed by members of the APA
Mon May 16, 2016, 07:43 PM
May 2016

This goes wayback to the Agency's MK ULTRA/MK SEARCH behavioral science "projects" era.

In Contravention of Conventional Wisdom (Cheryl Welsh 2008)
http://mindjustice.org/wisdom.htm

elljay

(1,178 posts)
24. Doesn't matter
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:21 PM
May 2016

This story is not intended to convince Americans. It is the "justification" for our own government to not punish a single person for this act.

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
44. how many Americans
Mon May 16, 2016, 06:23 PM
May 2016

do you think will actually know about this? Jeez, the voice is on tonite along with dancing with scars. That's the important stuff.

procon

(15,805 posts)
11. And if you believe that one, have I got a lovely bridge to sell you.
Mon May 16, 2016, 12:24 PM
May 2016

These people aren't stupid, but they sure as hell think everyone else is. The good old days when the mystique of CIA meant they could literally get away with murder, is long gone... I joke. They are still getting away with murder because that torture report will likely never be released.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
15. This has happened too many times.
Mon May 16, 2016, 12:32 PM
May 2016

Remember the lost computer files during the Bush administration?

There should be consequences for this. Those records belong to the American people, not to those in charge of the administrations or the CIA or any other agency.

How handy!

I've seen this before and it is inexcusable.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
31. and yet....zero Congressional action about what the CIA does.....
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:40 PM
May 2016

or what the Pentagon does.

Why, one would almost think the military Industrial Complex was actually in charge of the country, like Eisenhower warned about way back in 1953.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
42. Feel the Bern! He is the only one with the integrity, the courage,
Mon May 16, 2016, 06:12 PM
May 2016

the grit and the knowledge to clean up our government.

If we eliminated the corruption, we could eliminate a lot of our national debt.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
54. Indeed: from here on, every vote and every campaign must be about stopping the status quo.
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:34 AM
May 2016

No more compromise, no more lesser of two evils.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
52. Congress rolled over and is now a lapdog for the CIA.
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:01 AM
May 2016

They only have the spine to go after NCO or lower folks, otherwise Congress knows who it works for.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
16. No oversight
Mon May 16, 2016, 12:38 PM
May 2016

Of course no one will suffer one bit from this action, a sternly written letter, slap on the wrist should do it. And if there becomes a stink then maybe they will scapegoat some lackey to fall on his sword for them.

It is beyond stupid to think in this day and age, and all of that trillion dollar hi tech to believe for one second that this vital data had not been backed up. Lost like the lost trillions, yeah we get it.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
17. Reminds me of CIA man E Howard Hunt planting false cables in WH safe to implicate JFK in Diem murder
Mon May 16, 2016, 12:41 PM
May 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2880126&mesg_id=2880653

...and the time the CIA man on the HSCA investigating the assassinations of JFK and MLK broke into the investigators' safe to see what was in there.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2446828

Just tampering with the truth and history and government and democracy and such.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
38. Nixon's accidnetla erasure of those 18 minutes of tape seem like nothing, now.
Mon May 16, 2016, 02:17 PM
May 2016

gonna keep an eye on The Intercept.....Snowden is still coming up with more smoking guns.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
45. Great news! Snowden, Scahill and The Intercept ROCK!
Mon May 16, 2016, 06:59 PM
May 2016

There's zip zero on the tee vee or GOOGLE News feed.

I just searched the front page of CBS News online and nothing at all under "Torture" or "CIA."

Huh. One might think this was a big story.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
21. And America yawns and goes back to worrying themselves about the genitals of the...
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:15 PM
May 2016

...person in the next stall over.

God bless America!

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
22. No backup copy exists at CIA?? Not in any form on any medium?
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:19 PM
May 2016

Not in any office anywhere, or substation, or back bedroom of the senior second secretary?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!

I have some land in Florida you really, really, really want to buy.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
27. Go to Recycle Bin -> find report - > Right click - > Restore
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:33 PM
May 2016

If it ain't there, check the PC's network backup.

If it ain't there, somebody needs to be arrested, because this shit ain't an accident.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
29. “It makes you wonder what was going on over there?”
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:37 PM
May 2016

Uh... no it doesn't

We know exactly what's going on.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
33. CIA destroys Report, SOS operates Rogue Server
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:48 PM
May 2016

Deleted emails. Her IT person is the zero trace Boy Scout of email tracking. "Leave no trace".

Our government is not accountable to anyone on anything. What is the point of having laws?

 

FighttheFuture

(1,313 posts)
34. Well, I hope that Jr. Clerical Clerk that messed up is appropriately admonished!!
Mon May 16, 2016, 01:49 PM
May 2016

We can't keep having these low-level "Lynndie England's" causing problems for our fearless leaders!

Angel Martin

(942 posts)
56. this CIA insult to our intelligence is outrageous !
Tue May 17, 2016, 04:37 AM
May 2016

Hillary Clinton needs to take the lead and call out the CIA on their sloppy handling of electronic records, failure to properly protect important electronic documents, failure to comply with legal standards of electronic record keeping, mishandling of classified information, failure to provide Congress with legally required information, illegal destruction of classified documents...

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
39. If you believe this you deserve every abuse this government and society hurls at you.
Mon May 16, 2016, 02:18 PM
May 2016


You see, this government is not to be trusted. At all! In case you didn't know the CIA is part of the government.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
43. I doubt that charges could be brought, but this appears to be
Mon May 16, 2016, 06:17 PM
May 2016

obstruction of justice. Contempt of court for someone maybe?

And I'll bet that there are still copies somewhere.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
58. Just Like With Dubya
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:30 AM
May 2016

I seem to recall that a ton of emails, letters, files, etc. of the Bush/Cheney gang somehow got erased, they said it was an "accident". Right.

And now this.

Just another example of American Exceptionalism I guess.

When will a critical mass figure out we are being stolen from and played big time?....by "we" I mean the majority of us not filthy rich or super connected.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
59. Just like that time Oswald went to Mexico City.
Tue May 17, 2016, 09:43 AM
May 2016
"The CIA advised that on October 1, 1963, an extremely sensitive source had reported that an individual identified himself as Lee Oswald, who contacted the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City inquiring as to any messages. Special Agents of this Bureau, who have conversed with Oswald in Dallas, Texas, have observed photographs of the individual referred to above, and have listened to a recording of his voice. These special agents are of the opinion that the above-referred-to individual was not Lee Harvey Oswald." -- FBI, Nov. 23, 1963

http://www.history-matters.com/frameup.htm


Like a broken history, the record.
 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
60. Mission Accomplished! Money Trumps Peace! Long Live Big Brother! The Warren Commission!
Fri May 27, 2016, 09:56 AM
May 2016

That guy in Mexico City resembled Sandy Koufax, not LHO.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
61. The story shocked Mark Lane.
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:39 AM
May 2016

It confirmed that the CIA leadership knew someone was impersonating Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico City, six weeks before the assassination of President Kennedy.

Then, they covered it up. Seeing how the impersonator demanded a visa from the Cuban embassy and asked to meet with the KGB head of assassinations at the Moscow embassy, ostensibly to avoid World War III.

Some might say it was a trail started to lead to World War III.

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