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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri May 6, 2016, 05:34 PM May 2016

Agency: Bars Can't Ban Pregnant Women Or Refuse Them Drinks

NEW YORK — Pregnant women can't be kept out of New York City bars or refused alcoholic drinks just because they're expecting, under new city guidelines.

The city Human Rights Commission guidelines, released Friday, outline a variety of anti-discrimination measures and expound on a 2013 law that mostly concerns protections for pregnant workers.

But the guidance also warns against bouncers refusing to let mothers-to-be into bars or restaurants refusing to serve them alcohol, which the U.S. Surgeon General and major medical associations say women should avoid during pregnancy.

"Judgments and stereotypes about how pregnant individuals should behave, their physical capabilities and what is or is not healthy for a fetus are pervasive in our society and cannot be used as pretext for unlawful discriminatory decisions" in public venues, the new guidelines say.

If perhaps unusual, complaints from pregnant women about bar policies aren't unheard-of: The commission is currently looking into one case concerning a pregnant woman denied entry to a bar or club, said Lauren Elfant, an agency lawyer. She wouldn't give more detail because the case is open.

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yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
1. But yet bartenders can stop serving to someone who had too many
Fri May 6, 2016, 05:35 PM
May 2016

I know I will be in the minority here but this is a horrible law.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
2. I hope you are in the minority.
Fri May 6, 2016, 05:37 PM
May 2016

It's pretty offensive of you to compare pregnant women to wasted drunks. Shame on you.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
4. I didn't. I just said that bartenders can stop people from drinking when they feel like they
Fri May 6, 2016, 05:39 PM
May 2016

had enough but can't tell anyone else?

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
11. This
Fri May 6, 2016, 05:57 PM
May 2016

Each individual is responsible for their own safety.

Motorcycle helmet laws, seat belt laws, and server liability are all forms of oppression. Anyone who seeks self destruction should have the right to destroy themselves.

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MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. In Europe they don't take this attitude about the alcohol.
Fri May 6, 2016, 05:43 PM
May 2016

At least not in France, Italy or Spain. Everything in moderation. With a meal, why not, they say?

I can't really speak to how they feel about it in Germany.


There's even a little pushback against this in USA but not as much.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323514404578652091268307904

Atman

(31,464 posts)
9. What if my bartender asked to see my latest diabetes scan?
Fri May 6, 2016, 05:43 PM
May 2016

Actually, I'm fortunate, I don't have diabetes...but how is this any different? We're actually talking about making bartenders medical advisors? Seriously? This is the dumbest thing I've seen since the most recent article about Trump.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
10. Bartenders aren't doctors, and the science is convoluted, which is why...
Fri May 6, 2016, 05:47 PM
May 2016

... recommendations err on the side of caution. My wife had a glass of Czech lager a couple times while we were in the Czech Republic at 30 to 32 weeks. Of course, she did! We were in the Czech Republic!

Hmm. That might explain a lot about our child, or, more likely, it had no effect at all. Nonetheless...

Ilsa

(61,697 posts)
12. "No lunch meat for you! You're preggers!"
Fri May 6, 2016, 06:00 PM
May 2016

There's all kinds of stuff that pregnant women should or shouldn't consume. Why limit it to alcohol?

And who is to say whether someone is or isn't pregnant jyst by looking at them? It isn't always obvious either way.

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