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Now here's a CEO who gets it! (Original Post) Playinghardball Apr 2016 OP
I do like that. And I hope years down the road, that stock is actually worth something. Hoyt Apr 2016 #1
Why wouldn't it be? A HERETIC I AM Apr 2016 #7
Seen too many cases of Employee Stock Option Plans that turned out worthless. Hoyt Apr 2016 #13
Very often these stock awards are tied to a 401(k).... A HERETIC I AM Apr 2016 #15
For me a 20 year ESOP netted me 4 months salary. airplaneman Apr 2016 #19
Exactly. Sorry it worked out that way, but it's more common than people think. Hoyt Apr 2016 #20
Last century I worked for Johnson Controls. JonathanRackham May 2016 #27
Wish I ate yogurt wryter2000 Apr 2016 #2
It's closely held. A HERETIC I AM Apr 2016 #8
Thanks wryter2000 Apr 2016 #10
Shit...we all should have bought Facebook when it was at $18!! A HERETIC I AM Apr 2016 #11
Gee - I wonder how this guy votes Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #3
Probably, but note that though socially responsible Hortensis May 2016 #24
This is a beautiful story.. mountain grammy Apr 2016 #4
employee ownership of a company is socialism killbotfactory Apr 2016 #5
Hamdi Ulukaya, from Wiki: IDemo Apr 2016 #6
....Oh No! He Has a Charitable Foundation-Just Like the Clintons Stallion Apr 2016 #18
It isn't having a Foundation that makes the Clintons so horrible... IdaBriggs May 2016 #23
Prove it. Loki May 2016 #26
^^^this^^^ valerief May 2016 #30
And there's this tammywammy May 2016 #31
Lots of companies have employee ownership of COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #9
Yes. It's not only best for co-workers, lovemydog Apr 2016 #12
Absolutely. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #14
One of the Good Guys. NewImproved Deal Apr 2016 #16
Gonna Pick Up Some Chobani Next Stop at Grocery Store in Solidarity Stallion Apr 2016 #17
Bob Moore of Bob's Red Mill did even better Major Nikon Apr 2016 #21
Definitely nice, but setting the bar a bit too high Hortensis May 2016 #25
I have some Chobani greek yogurt in my fridge right now passiveporcupine May 2016 #22
So to have the workers rights and interests at heart, Loki May 2016 #28
Actually it is part of the "socialism" that Bernie believes in passiveporcupine May 2016 #34
Wow! That's so...so...unCEOish! (I have no higher compliment.) valerief May 2016 #29
Another reason to keep buying it. They started out Land of Enchantment May 2016 #32
Now there is a CEO that knows how to keep his company in business! Without graft or fraud. Rex May 2016 #33
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. I do like that. And I hope years down the road, that stock is actually worth something.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:29 PM
Apr 2016

Sounds like a really good company -- employees and owners.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,380 posts)
7. Why wouldn't it be?
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:15 PM
Apr 2016

As long as the company continues to be successful, why not?

There are plenty of privately owned (Often referred to as "Closely held" in stock market parlance) companies that offer company stock to their employees as part of compensation. Two notable examples are Publix Supermarkets and Penske Truck Leasing.

While the shares do not trade on the open market, they certainly have value, both to the firm as well as the employees.

Bear in mind that prior to November of 1999, United Parcel Service was also closely held but offered company stock to their employees also. Many, MANY drivers who had been there for years became millionaires overnight when their shares began to trade on the NYSE.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
13. Seen too many cases of Employee Stock Option Plans that turned out worthless.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:41 PM
Apr 2016

I am simply hoping that 10 years from now, the company is worth something. If I were an employee and had the option of cashing in immediately, I'd take it. But, they don't have that option.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,380 posts)
15. Very often these stock awards are tied to a 401(k)....
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:54 PM
Apr 2016

and, as is the case with Publix, are only offered for buyback quarterly or twice a year.

A buddy of mine worked for Penske for almost 20 years. He left them about 6 years ago, but because he has so many shares of their stock, he has just left them in the 401(k), not cashing out and doing a rollover to an IRA.

I understand your concern, but not every firm is a potential Enron.

airplaneman

(1,240 posts)
19. For me a 20 year ESOP netted me 4 months salary.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 03:36 PM
Apr 2016

And I was not allowed to have my own IRA because they checked the box that I had a company sponsored retirement plan.
-Airplane

JonathanRackham

(1,604 posts)
27. Last century I worked for Johnson Controls.
Sun May 1, 2016, 09:21 AM
May 2016

You could contribute and control your own 401K, took it when I left. Not tied to company performance. Managed by third party. At Johnson at end of year you also got a Johnson stock bonus certificate. Amount was based on longevity. You could cash it in any time. Almost 30 years later, don't know if they still do it. Blue collar people were treated just like the white collar.

wryter2000

(46,082 posts)
10. Thanks
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:20 PM
Apr 2016

Long ago, I bought some Costco stock because I loved the company. Even through the upheavals at the end of BushII's disastrous presidency, it did well.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,380 posts)
11. Shit...we all should have bought Facebook when it was at $18!!
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:32 PM
Apr 2016

Trading at $117 today!

Ahhh...well..

For that matter, I should have bought Ford when it was at a buck fifty!

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
3. Gee - I wonder how this guy votes
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:54 PM
Apr 2016


SOme how I'll bet he doesn't vote RW or even 'centrist'

just guessing.

This'll drive the RW of both parties out of their little minds.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Probably, but note that though socially responsible
Sun May 1, 2016, 08:29 AM
May 2016

economics are in eclipse on the right, some conservatives do still believe in advances through progressive action at all levels of engagement, including government, and many were solidly behind the New Deal programs. So, it is possible that someone doing this could be centrist conservative or even moderate, though, as you indicate, most likely liberal or far left.

This person is a nasty old capitalist, though, and this advancement of the wellbeing of his employees is through his personal, not government action, leaving the doors wide open to speculation regarding both right and left.

Which I like. In order for progressivism to once again dominate in government and once again become a force in the GOP, it needs to be far better understood.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
6. Hamdi Ulukaya, from Wiki:
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:12 PM
Apr 2016
Influence and advisorships

Ulukaya has been noted both for his extraordinary entrepreneurial success and also his commitment to making affordable, delicious, and nutritious foods using only natural ingredients. In addition to receiving many entrepreneurship awards, in April 2014 he was named by President Barack Obama as an inaugural member of the Presidential Ambassadors for Global Entrepreurship (PAGE) initiative – 11 selected business leaders who will champion and encourage entrepreneurship in the U.S. and abroad. Also in 2014, the Culinary Institute of America honored him with its Leadership Award (Augie Award) in the Health and Wellness category.

Ulukaya is a member of the Upstate Regional Advisory Board of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, and he is a Vice Chair of the corporate fund board of the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts. He is also on the board of the Pathfinder Village (Community for Down syndrome) Foundation in Edmeston, New York and The American Turkish Society in New York, NY. He has delivered commencement addresses at institutions including the Culinary Institute of America, the Sage Colleges, and the University at Albany in New York, and has received honorary doctorate degrees from Colgate University, the Sage Colleges, and the University at Albany.

From its inception Ulukaya has given 10% of his company's net profits to charitable causes, and to individuals and organizations working towards positive long-lasting change. In 2010 he established the company's charitable arm, the Chobani Shepherd's Gift Foundation, now called the Chobani Foundation, to manage this philanthropy. Donations have included major grants to support famine relief efforts in Somalia, and to underwrite the New York City Pianos project launched by Sing for Hope.

Hamdi Ulukaya donated most of his wealth, at least 700 million dollars, to help the Kurdish refugees as well as refugees from all around the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamdi_Ulukaya#Influence_and_advisorships
 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
23. It isn't having a Foundation that makes the Clintons so horrible...
Sun May 1, 2016, 07:56 AM
May 2016

It's misusing it by making it a money laundering scheme for corrupt countries and people to buy influence and steal from the needy. Go google "Clinton Foundation and Haiti" for an example of who actually benefited from the millions raised for Haiti -- children are starving to death, living in tents seven years later, and the money is nowhere to be seen.

Charities do public financial disclosure which is supposed to prevent things like that, but there appears to be some issues with the "fictional" quality of the reporting.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
31. And there's this
Sun May 1, 2016, 11:31 AM
May 2016
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/clinton-global-initiative/meetings/winter-meeting/2016/webcasts/day-1

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/press-releases/media-advisory-president-clinton-and-chelsea-clinton-host-clinton-global-initiative-0

At the Winter Meeting, President Clinton will introduce the 2016 CGI Annual Meeting theme, “Partnering for Global Prosperity.” Since starting in 2005, members of the CGI community have worked together to make more than 3,400 Commitments to Action which have improved the lives of over 430 million people in more than 180 countries.

The opening session will feature a one-on-one discussion between President Clinton and Hamdi Ulukaya, Founder and CEO, Chobani and Founder, Tent Foundation, with a focus on supporting refugees.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
9. Lots of companies have employee ownership of
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:17 PM
Apr 2016

part of the company through Employee Stock Ownership Plans (ESOP's). He was able to do this since he's not only CEO but also majority shareholder.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Definitely nice, but setting the bar a bit too high
Sun May 1, 2016, 08:43 AM
May 2016

for business in general, right? Good wages and good benefits would be a lot "even better" than what most people are being paid now.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
22. I have some Chobani greek yogurt in my fridge right now
Sun May 1, 2016, 02:04 AM
May 2016
Ulukaya has stated that higher wages for employees leads to greater corporate success. Not only does he promote the position that companies can succeed when they pay their workers more, they also have a moral obligation to do so, stating that, “…for the sake of our communities and our people, we need to give other companies the ability to create a better life for more people."


from wiki

I love this guy! I bet he's a Bernie fan!

Loki

(3,825 posts)
28. So to have the workers rights and interests at heart,
Sun May 1, 2016, 09:21 AM
May 2016

only belongs to Bernie supporters? How interesting.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
34. Actually it is part of the "socialism" that Bernie believes in
Sun May 1, 2016, 02:33 PM
May 2016

Where the profits of the company are shared by all, and the workers have a voice in how the company is run. In this case it's only the first half, but it's a start.

There have been very few business owners who treat their workers this way (Costco is one) and every time it happens it hits the new because it is so rare.

A person who is born and bred to capitalism and the goal of earning money, doesn't usually do this sort of thing.

I admit that in this case the guy is a billionaire, so he can afford to do it, but he's got one part right that Bill Gates does not. The part about a well paid worker being important to the success of the company. Bill Gates likes to use offshore cheap labor, instead of bringing those jobs home and paying workers well to build his products.

Gates is probably not a Bernie supporter.

But note, in both cases I never said "for sure" he's a Bernie fan, because some conservatives are nice people too.

I can understand if you want to take offense at my statement. I'd be on the defensive too, if I was supporting the status quo that favors big business and not the little guy.

Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)
32. Another reason to keep buying it. They started out
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:01 PM
May 2016

giving out free coupons for yogurt cups where we live. It is GOOD stuff!

?1

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
33. Now there is a CEO that knows how to keep his company in business! Without graft or fraud.
Sun May 1, 2016, 01:37 PM
May 2016

That is amazing imo.

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