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Botany

(70,589 posts)
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:10 AM Apr 2016

Let's Not Hug It Out With Our Dogs

Dr. Stanley Coren, a professor emeritus in psychology at the University of British Columbia, writes in a Psychology Today blog post that hugging a dog actually increases the dog's stress level.

For his study, Coren looked at a random sampling of 250 pictures of people hugging dogs from Google Image Search and Flickr. "I can summarize the data quite simply by saying that the results indicated that the Internet contains many pictures of happy people hugging what appear to be unhappy dogs," Coren writes.


Coren, who has written several books about dog behavior, says there are specific things dogs do to indicate stress. At the "high-end," dogs will "bare their teeth" at you. But dogs can still experience stress without lashing out.

"The most common sign of anxiety is when the dog turns his head away from whatever is bothering or worrying him, sometimes also closing his eyes, at least partially," Coren writes. When a dog opens its eyes wide and you can see the whites in a "half-moon" shape, that's another sign. Other indicators of stress are when the dog's ears are low and against its head, lip licking, yawning or raising a paw.

http://www.npr.org/2016/04/30/476212898/lets-not-hug-it-out-with-our-dogs

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Let's Not Hug It Out With Our Dogs (Original Post) Botany Apr 2016 OP
This guy obviously doesn't know anything about labs leftofcool Apr 2016 #1
So true randr Apr 2016 #7
Rubbish lame54 Apr 2016 #2
This much publicized "study" is crap pop-sci. Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #3
My shepherds jump in my lap. They demand hugs. JonathanRackham Apr 2016 #4
Give the dog a choice? DirkGently Apr 2016 #5
This isn't science. Brickbat Apr 2016 #6
Turns out this was just an opinion piece by a single researcher. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #8
As somebody who has a big lab laying at me feet right now ..... Botany Apr 2016 #10
This report has been debunked. procon Apr 2016 #9
Crock of poo..........nt 2naSalit Apr 2016 #11
Then what about the Thundershirt? Doesn't that work similar to hugging? LiberalElite Apr 2016 #12
Bullshit. frogmarch Apr 2016 #13
Geez...the dogs are not unhappy, just confused about what to do. Rex Apr 2016 #14
Debunked. HuckleB Apr 2016 #15
How many more times PasadenaTrudy Apr 2016 #16
Internet posed pictures don't have enough information attached to make a scientific conclusion. Sunlei Apr 2016 #17
Not to mention that dogs are often freaked out by cameras Major Nikon Apr 2016 #21
This just in, babies don't like to be kissed, proof enclosed Major Nikon Apr 2016 #18
Lol Liberal_in_LA Apr 2016 #19
!!! Egnever Apr 2016 #20
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
3. This much publicized "study" is crap pop-sci.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:26 AM
Apr 2016

If your dog likes to hug, hug your dog. Otherwise, don't.

JonathanRackham

(1,604 posts)
4. My shepherds jump in my lap. They demand hugs.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:28 AM
Apr 2016

Learned behavior from our 3 cats.

Don't ask what the cats learned from the shepherds.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
5. Give the dog a choice?
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:29 AM
Apr 2016

Dogs don't like to be suddenly reached for, and don't like being restrained, especially near their heads. Left to their own devices, they will let you know when they want affection. If they are, for example, squishing themselves up against you, like the two lazy pups currently snoozing in my lap, they are probably enjoying the physical contact. If they are looking around for an escape route, maybe loosen up?

Not sure this is "science," but probably some people need to hear it.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
8. Turns out this was just an opinion piece by a single researcher.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:52 AM
Apr 2016
f you have an Internet connection, you’ve probably read at least one article in the past few days claiming that science has shown that dogs hate being hugged. We are not here to argue that you should go squeeze the life out of a puppy. But we are here to squeeze the life out of this misleading science coverage.

The problem is that what’s being reported as a “study” is, in fact, an op-ed written in the magazine Psychology Today by a single researcher.

“This is a set of casual observations,” said Stanley Coren, the retired University of British Columbia professor who penned the column. He repeated that his data were not part of a peer-reviewed study.



http://www.startribune.com/about-hugging-your-dog-is-it-ok/377501981/

Botany

(70,589 posts)
10. As somebody who has a big lab laying at me feet right now .....
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:57 AM
Apr 2016

... I thought it was junk science. My dog from the time he was a puppy
has used to his "puffy eyes" in orser to get his way.

No, you can not come w/me ..... puffy eyes .... oh well come on buddy.

procon

(15,805 posts)
9. This report has been debunked.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:57 AM
Apr 2016

The professor who wrote the original column is getting a lot negative feedback for creative this false narrative. Don't buy into it, just read the facts and then go give your dog a big hug.


But before you give up hugging, let's do some fact checking.

The 'study' that everyone is referring is not a study in the sense of a peer-reviewed scientific study. It's a column titled "The Data Says "Don't Hug the Dog!" in the magazine Psychology Today by a UBC professor emeritus of psychology and dog expert, Stanley Coren.

He looked at a random election of 250 photos on Google image search and Flickr of people hugging dogs, and determined that in 4 out of 5 cases, the dogs exhibited at least one sign of stress.

That's right. Just 250 photos.

Read the article:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/dog-hug-stress-1.3557646


frogmarch

(12,160 posts)
13. Bullshit.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:55 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe some dogs don't, but mine always have!

They said to tell Dr. Stanley Coren to stuff it.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. Geez...the dogs are not unhappy, just confused about what to do.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:17 PM
Apr 2016

There is a distinct difference between being upset and being confused.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
17. Internet posed pictures don't have enough information attached to make a scientific conclusion.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 02:48 PM
Apr 2016

Our own dogs love to be hugged, they seek out hugs and we 'laugh' together

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