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Former Sec. of State Madeleine Albright tore apart Donald Trumps foreign policy speech to reveal the incoherent ramblings of a dangerous man who hides his lies and inconsistencies behind simple slogans.
In a conference call with reporters, former Sec. of State Madeline Albright said:
I found many things troubling, but three that I think are worth pointing out. First, as his advisors pointed out, there were no details in the speech, and instead, we heard a lot tough talk and simplistic slogans and empty promises. Second, it was incoherent and riddled with contradictions. I cant list every example, but there were a few which stand out. He talked about regaining the trust of our allies while in effect promising to blackmail them in terms of supporting us. If you dont help us, we dont help you kind of talk. He then talked about the importance of Western values but questioned why we would think about supporting democracy in other countries. Then, I think the one that really made the least sense of all. He said he would work with Muslims to fight terrorism, but he has already alienated them with proposals to block them from coming into the country.
What I think was most troubling in this speech was the flat out dangerous ideas that he continues to embrace. His foreign policy slogan of America first is so clearly, maybe hes never read history, or he doesnt understand it. But he clearly didnt understand what the America Firsters used to talk about was that there wasnt any Nazi threat to American interests. If he keeps talking about American interests, but still recalling America Firsters, that is a mega contradiction.
His main message was that we need to be more unpredictable as a nation. Now, in fact, unpredictability is the only thing that you can count on if Donald Trump is our Commander in Chief. But do you actually want somebody unpredictable with the nuclear codes?
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/27/secretary-state-eviscerated-trumps-incoherent-foreign-policy-speech.html
think
(11,641 posts)WillYourVoteBCounted
(14,622 posts)Rawanda Genocide. Madeleine Albright led US to block UN from actively preventing Rawandan genocide, 800,000 Rwandans were slaughter.
Iraq: Lesley Stahl asked: We have heard that half a million children have died [as a result of sanctions against Iraq]. I mean, that is more children than died in Hiroshima . . . Is the price worth it? Albrights response: I think that is a very hard choice, but the price, we think, the price is worth it.
Denis Halliday, UN Assistant Secretary General and Humanitarian Aid Co-ordinator in Iraq, after 31 years of service with the UN, resigned in protest of the sanctions in September 1998. His replacement, Hans von Sponeck, a 36-year veteran of the UN, resigned for the same reason in February 2000, along with Dr. Jutta Burghardt, head of the World Food Program in Iraq.
In his resignation speech, Denis Halliday stated: We are in the process of destroying an entire society. It is as simple and terrifying as that. It is illegal and immoral. He elaborated in a lengthy interview on April 17, 1999:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2005/12/10/madeleine-albright-and-us-foreign-policy/
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)The U.S., of course, has a long and recent history of engineering instability and coups against democratically elected, left-wing Latin American governments it dislikes. Beyond the 1964 coup in Brazil, the U.S. was at least supportive of the attempted 2002 overthrow of Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez, played a central role in the 2004 ouster of Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, and then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton lent vital support to legitimize the 2009 coup in Honduras, just to name a few examples. Many on the Brazilian left believe that the U.S. is actively engineering the current instability in their country in order to get rid of a left-wing party that has relied heavily on trade with China, and instead usher in a more pro-business, pro-U.S. government that could never win an election on its own.
ALTHOUGH NO REAL evidence has emerged proving this theory, a little-publicized trip to the U.S. this week by a key Brazilian opposition leader will likely fuel those concerns. Today the day after the impeachment vote Sen. Aloysio Nunes of the PSDB will be in Washington to undertake three days of meetings with various U.S. officials as well as with lobbyists and assorted influence-peddlers close to Clinton and other leading political figures.
Sen. Nunes is meeting with the chairman and ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Bob Corker, R-Tenn., and Ben Cardin, D-Md.; Undersecretary of State and former Ambassador to Brazil Thomas Shannon; and attending a luncheon on Tuesday hosted by the Washington lobbying firm Albright Stonebridge Group, headed by former Clinton Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and former Bush 43 Commerce Secretary and Kellogg Company CEO Carlos Gutierrez.
The Brazilian Embassy in Washington and Sen. Nuness office told The Intercept that they had no additional information about the Tuesday luncheon. In an email, the Albright Stonebridge Group wrote that there is no media component to the event, which is for the Washington policy and business community, and a list of attendees or topics addressed would not be made public....
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Albright Stonebridge was created through the merger of international consulting firms The Albright Group and Stonebridge International. ASG is affiliated with Albright Capital Management, an emerging markets investment firm founded in 2005.[2]
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JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)His simplistic views are precisely what his supporters like about him.
pampango
(24,692 posts)Nazi threat to American interests."
Trump may not know that "American First" was an isolationist organization that fought with FDR prior to Pearl Harbor. OTOH, perhaps he knows this very well. He seems to oppose everything FDR stood for so this is consistent.
On the day after Roosevelt's lend-lease bill was submitted to the United States Congress, Wood promised AFC opposition "with all the vigor it can exert." America First staunchly opposed the convoying of ships, the Atlantic Charter, and the placing of economic pressure on Japan. In order to achieve the defeat of lend-lease and the perpetuation of American neutrality, the AFC advocated four basic principles ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee
Trump 'profoundly distrusts' Obama and his efforts to have the US play a constructive role in the world. Trump is a genuine 21st century version of the 20th century American Firsters who clashed with FDR.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)She'll cut him up into bite size pieces, calmly transfer her fork from her left hand to her right, and finish him off.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I suspect he'll do everything he can to avoid being on a stage with her, though. Maybe even flat refusing.
WillYourVoteBCounted
(14,622 posts)Hillary is more hawkish than some republicans. She always prefers bombing and starvation style sanctions
to diplomacy.
Hillary Is the Candidate of the War Machine
02/05/2016
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-sachs/hillary-is-the-candidate_b_9168938.html
HILLARY CLINTON : I VOTED FOR IRAQ WAR BECAUSE I OWED GEORGE W BUSH
https://pivotamerica.com/hillary-clinton-voted-iraq-war-owed-george-w-bush/
During the Democratic town hall on MSNBC on Monday March 14th Hillary Clinton admitted that she voted for the Iraq War because George W. Bush promised $20 billion to rebuild New York.
MONDOWEISS on Hillary's Iraq Vote: "Look we have to get money for New York."
"Clinton: Look, that was a mistake and Ive said it was a mistake. And I had good friends like Vice President Biden who were with me, and I had good friends who were on the other side. And I think part of what certainly influenced me is after 9/11 you know I went to New York with Chuck Schumer, the next day, my fellow senator. We were the only plane in the sky and we flew over Ground Zero and we saw the devastation, and we were briefed fully on all of the threats that were still out there.
We get back to Washington I go and see then Senator Byrd, get him to commit to helping New York. Because the first request out of the White House was for 20 billion dollars for the Pentagon, for Homeland Security. Not a penny for New York. So I went and said, Look we have to get money for New York."
http://mondoweiss.net/2016/03/what-certainly-influenced-me-to-support-iraq-war-clinton-says-was-bushs-billions-of-aid-to-nyc/
LIBYA. How Hillary Clinton Lied Her Way to War in Libya.
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/analysis/How-Hillary-Clinton-Lied-Her-Way-to-War-in-Libya-20160318-0008.html
Hillary Clinton's Involvement in Libya's Turmoil (video)
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)greymouse
(872 posts)is ask about the millions of Libya lives she ruined. Then about how she kept down wages for Haitian garment workers. Then play the video of her laughing about people dying.
Loki
(3,825 posts)Got any new republican propaganda to post?
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Working with Muslims to combat terrorism - would she didagree with that?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and Islam itself many times, our own American Muslims, foreign, it didn't matter to him. The profound contradiction was what she was questioning.
Beartracks
(12,816 posts)... but, rather, questions whether really is a policy proposal from Mr. Trump. She finds it non-sensical for him to say he'll work with Muslims -- an assertion which implies trust -- while at the same time banning them from this country -- a proposal which, frankly, implies mis-trust. I think Ms. Albright's take-away from this and other things he spouts on the campaign trail is that he's simply blowing around a lot of hot air and he really doesn't mean or stand for anything.
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thereismore
(13,326 posts)Beartracks
(12,816 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)in this thread are not happy with her doing so?
nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)This is a filthy disgusting "woman". I won't be taking anything she says seriously. Period.
She should be in the Hague
Loki
(3,825 posts)That will earn you brownie points, but not here. 20 year old interview, wow.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Bucky
(54,027 posts)agree completely.... that "critique" was a waste of electrons (also note that I know how to use scare quotes)
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)this...it's wrong. It may be 20 years old but so what...the civil war is over a century old and we don't forget that.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)jomin41
(559 posts)are full of empty promises, tough talk, simplistic slogans, and/or incoherence, imo. Otherwise, we wouldn't be where we are.
houston16revival
(953 posts)underpants
(182,829 posts)Both pointed out that a simple google search should have steered him away from using that term. Beck pointed out how mei-nazis use it ...his nameless co-host suggested that maybe that was okay with Trump.
Caught bits of their shows over the last few days.
cntrygrl
(356 posts)the fact that his own daughters company bought scarves from China. When is the press going to report on this?
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)that the deaths of hundreds of thousand dead Iraqi children was worth it.
Overseas
(12,121 posts)He said "Trump has been talking with world leaders for years-- Miss Sweden, Miss Argentina, Miss Azerbaijan..."