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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:00 PM Apr 2016

The Arctic is melting - and scientists just lost a key tool to observe it

Chelsea Harvey
Special to The Washington Post
Earlier this month, a U.S. satellite known as F17 - which was primarily used for meteorological measurements - experienced operational failures that compromised the integrity of its data. And while there are similar satellites in orbit that can take over the data collection for now, they're old enough that scientists are unsure how much longer they'll last.

Now, with no government plans to launch a replacement any time soon, scientists who rely on these satellites for valuable climate data are beginning to worry about the future of their research. The problem comes at a vital time, too - one when the Arctic, and other remote regions, are seeing rapid changes and scientists badly need these instruments to track them.

Just last month, the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) reported that the maximum extent of Arctic sea ice this past winter - the time of year when the ice reaches its annual peak - was at a record low for the second straight year. The Arctic sea ice record has been one of the most important ways scientists have tracked the progress of climate change over time. But as of April 12, the NSIDC was forced to release a statement explaining that its daily sea ice updates were suspended until further notice due to technical difficulties with F17.

F17 - and its predecessors - have been "one of the primary resources for monitoring sea ice extent and concentration," said Walt Meier, a research scientist and sea ice expert at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-arctic-melt-20160425-story.html

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The Arctic is melting - and scientists just lost a key tool to observe it (Original Post) n2doc Apr 2016 OP
K and R. HuckleB Apr 2016 #1
We need Bernie. He wants to audit the military and find money to fund the projects JDPriestly Apr 2016 #2
That was my first thought too. Stop funding the wrong things with our money! JudyM Apr 2016 #6
But, but...ISL / ISIS... Moostache Apr 2016 #9
Agreed. And interesting point about "American interests" -- sadly, so true. JudyM Apr 2016 #10
Wonderful. Cassiopeia Apr 2016 #3
Easy. Send Cheney to look for it. forest444 Apr 2016 #4
Ruh Roh ReRe Apr 2016 #5
the USA won't do it, i'd bet Europe or China will step up tho 0rganism Apr 2016 #7
I'll have to agree with you on that. It's sad ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #12
I agree with Europe n2doc Apr 2016 #14
Doesn't Cryosat II already get this info? n/t OnlinePoker Apr 2016 #15
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #8
Oops, said the fossil fuel filth who hacked and disabled it. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #11
Alaska is having a very early spring. Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #13
Denial facilitation level: Expert. n/t TygrBright Apr 2016 #16

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
2. We need Bernie. He wants to audit the military and find money to fund the projects
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:58 PM
Apr 2016

we really need.

Feel the Bern!

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
9. But, but...ISL / ISIS...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:59 PM
Apr 2016

War mongers of every stripe infuriate me...I wish we could get a Congress and President that put Americans in the pural ahead of American 'interests' (which has always been code for 'campaign donor's profits).

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
3. Wonderful.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:03 PM
Apr 2016

I'm sure Congress will leap to action to get this satellite replaced.

Oh yeah, even if they do, Obama would likely stand in the way. That campaign rhetoric of going to Mars was just that, campaign rhetoric.

http://www.universetoday.com/127309/nasa-2017-budget/

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
5. Ruh Roh
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:19 PM
Apr 2016
So, so, so... What now? With the right wing government that we like to keep in office, a new weather satellite will be totally out of the question, since you know... right wingers don't believe in science. This is not good. Only way to get a new satellite up there is to vote in Democrats across the board in DC. This year. This year. This year.

Let me repeat that again: This year!

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
7. the USA won't do it, i'd bet Europe or China will step up tho
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:27 PM
Apr 2016

strangely enough, this is a matter of global concern, as well as minor bragging rights for whichever space program gets that replacement satellite up there fastest. but our politics have paralyzed the USA from taking strong action in this respect.

for the next year or so, we'll be relying on Europe and China to pick up the slack. then the Democrats will be able to start passing budgets that include atmospheric research.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
14. I agree with Europe
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:48 PM
Apr 2016

China seems less interested in Climate, although they should be. A lot of environmental science is now being led by Europeans. The US has other priorities, like blowing up rocks in the middle east, or giving other countries the weapons to do so.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
13. Alaska is having a very early spring.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:45 PM
Apr 2016

We've broken temperature records here in Anchorage over the past couple of months. The trees are leafed out, and I have primroses blooming. This is at least two weeks early. I'm even contemplating getting my vegetable starts into the ground. Back in the old days when I first moved up here, the rule was don't plant until Memorial Day weekend, then gradually it got to the point where I could put my garden in mid-May, now here it is not even the first, and I'm ready. The rule now is when birch leaves are as big as a squirrel's ear, and they're already bigger than that.

Our very early spring may be related to El Niño, but I'm thinking there's more at play. Yesterday it was almost 70 degrees in Fairbanks.

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