A woman has been kicked out of a restroom...because she doesn’t “look like” a girl.

[Snarkoleptic]

http://winningdemocrats.com/bigot-cops-refuse-to-let-lesbian-use-womens-restroom-because-she-looks-like-a-boy-video/

A video was recently uploaded to YouTube that shows a lesbian being physically pushed out of a restroom by police because they mistook her for a boy. In the video, the woman asserts over and over that she is a female, but police didn’t believe her. A male officer demanded that she produce identification and prove that she was actually a girl. When she explained that she did not have an ID on her, the cop says,”OUT!” and forces her out of the bathroom.

Unfortunately, the video does not give any specifics about where or when it took place, but it certainly looks legitimate.

[beachbum bob]

1. Can't wait for the lawsuit...

[Snarkoleptic]

2. Conservatives push for voter ID, now we're on the brink of restroom ID.

[DetlefK]

7. What's so bad about IDs?

Honestly.

In Germany, you get a national ID at the age of 18 and it costs about €20. It contains name, photo, address, date of birth, height and eye-color. And it's valid for any and all government-related purposes, from travel to voting.


All this grand drama about voter IDs and whether or not and what's a valid one andsoforth SIMPLY DOESN'T EXIST IN GERMANY.
Because the system already provides you with a universally accepted form of ID.

[csziggy]

15. To many conservatives the concept of a national ID is un-American

My high school civics teacher is probably rolling over in his grave these days. During the segment on Americanism vs. Communism one of his major points about how the American system was better was that citizens were not required to have an ID to do everyday things, like walk down the street or to exercise their right to vote. Sure you had to have a license to drive, or hunt - but not to own a gun (this was in 1966 in Florida where we still don't have to have a license to own a gun, just one to carry concealed).

Since the Republicans have made such a big deal out of voter ID and now proof of sex to use the restrooms, I'm ready for a national ID. It could replace Social Security cards. Every single person would be automatically issued a photo ID, along with automatic registration to vote for every eligible citizen. Boom - problem solved.

The national ID card could have a chip that would be updated with added privileges - when you pass your driver's test, that info is added to the card. If a draft is needed, no paperwork to find every person who is needed to enlist, just use the national database. Hunting, gun, professional licenses can be programmed in. With today's technology, law enforcement wouldn't even have to ask for your card - their scanners could read it from a distance!

Yep, my civics teacher is rolling in his grave!

[DetlefK]

17. And then the black UN-helicopters come to confiscate your guns.

Wanna bet that this is a counter-argument that would come up?

If the government knows who you are and where you live, that's just the pretext to taking your guns.
(Also: The microchip in your government-issued ID allows them to track every move and/or is a mind-control device.)


But seriously, voter-registration is another important thing: You automatically get registered in your town with name, address and everything.
If you move to a new town, you have to go to the city-hall: THEY put you in the local voter-database and THEY contact your old town to tell them to delete you immediately from THEIR local voter-database. No yearly purging of voter-rolls necessary: It all happens on a continuous basis and in real-time.

[csziggy]

19. We could just save time and combine national ID with the Cerebrum Communicator

Since everyone would have a number and no name, that would make it simpler for everyone!

[DBoon]

38. We already carry tracking devices

They are called cell phones.

[dembotoz]

22. my 6th grade teacher said same....sign of totalitarian government is the need to provide papers for

doing normal things

as for the national id thing in conservatives...i dated a wacko conservative woman for a bit...perhaps the more flat our gorgeous woman i ever dated...but i digress.....
anyway the big thing among looney rights christians was that during the end time the national id was foretold as the mark of the devil in the book of revelations

[Jerry442]

28. Or you could put a bar code on everyone's forehead.

What a beastly thing that would be.

[Snarkoleptic]

18. In the context of restroom access, it's just a bridge too far.

I'm all for a national ID, issued to everyone and at no cost.
This should register you to vote automatically on your 18th birthday.

[Hoppy]

24. Does the Gernn ID allow you to take a shit?

[DetlefK]

33. Sadly, No.

Every time I feel nature's call in my bowels, I have to go outside and find a nice bush or tree who needs some fertilizer. And I make sure to alternate when watering crops: Too much uric acid can mess up the pH-value of the soil.

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The scene in the OP boils down to a very short conversation.
"Boy or Girl? Can you prove it?" Done.

Did somebody ask the cops to remove that "man"? The article doesn't mention what happened before the video started.

[FighttheFuture]

26. Achtung!! Vere are your papers, sir!!! Schnell!!

Really? You should not need an ID to do everyday activities; like use the restroom or walk down the street. As far as voting, signature works fine and has worked fine forever. Fraud in that context in non-existent.

[DetlefK]

36. So, what's the easiest way to determine who belongs into which restroom?

You know, other than sorting people by gender.



Voting in the US has worked fine?????? HAHAHAHA!
And nobody was disenfranchised ever(!) because some politician decided shortly before an election which kinds of ID would be valid and which wouldn't.
"Surprise, students! You can't vote here because your dorm isn't actually your valid home-address! You have to vote at your parents!"
"And old people cannot vote despite having lived in the US for 70 years!"

[FighttheFuture]

39. Not to worry about it, that's the easiest way. You make my point on voting, BTW.

I am saying registered at your polling place, with your signature on file as worked very well vs. the new push (in red states, mostly) for various ID's, some accepted (NRA gun card), many not (Student ID). As for registering, that can be tied into when you obtain a state ID, such as Drivers license, or State ID (if you do not drive). Same day, bring in some utility bills, library card, etc. to show proof of residence. Keep it flexible... the point it to allow people to vote, not try to restrict it. Fraud at that level is non-existant. The problems with voting are much more insidious.

It's not hard, and national ID's that you always should carry is excessive.

[awoke_in_2003]

46. Sadly, even walking down the street

if a cop asks for your ID you must produce it.

[Cassiopeia]

34. So you think it appropriate to be carded to use the restroom.

Got it.

[DetlefK]

37. Have you asked yourself what happened in the minutes prior to the video?

Why was there police in the first place? Who called them? What was the complaint?

Did some woman complain that there's a "man" in the women's restroom and won't leave?





I know how the police could have resolved this without demanding ID:

"Sir, we've had a complaint, I need you to leave."
"But I'm really a lady!"
"Pinky-swear?"
"Absolutely!"
"Ma'am, you've heard her: She's a lady."

[madokie]

10. Hell I'd be in a world of hurt

Old, long gray hair and my ding dong shrinking up and to top it off I'm growing what looks like lady parts on my chest now. F@#K

LOL

[justhanginon]

13. Aging, ain't it fun? I'm in the same boat as you except for the hair..

Grateful to still have my hair but I keep mine short now just because it is easier. I can now identify with the saying, "Golden years my ass!"

[cwydro]

3. I've never seen any police around women's restrooms in all my long years on this earth

I'm fairly androgynous looking, and I've never been challenged.

[Snarkoleptic]

4. I expect we'll see more of this now that the R's are passing

bathroom bills and seeking to permit bigotry/hatred based on "closely held beliefs".

To them, I say-

[cwydro]

5. It makes no sense if you think about it - stupid bills notwithstanding.

So I walk into a restroom and a woman thinks I look like a guy, so she runs out and tries to find a cop? Or calls 911? Makes no sense.

The cops would be laughing themselves silly, and I'd be long gone by the time they got there since it would hardly be regarded as a priority call.

There was another OP with a video similar to this one, but it turned out NOT to be what it said it was. I'm skeptical until I see where and when this happened.

[One_Life_To_Give]

11. A detail cop nearby perhaps

Like a movie theater or similar that regularly contracts off duty PD to patrol the lobby. They would be in position to deal with such. Although most would probably be wishing they didn't have to deal with this stuff.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

6. If this is happening

Then we can blame this "Transgender Bathroom Panic" being pushed by Republicans for it.

[Snarkoleptic]

9. "Yer not dressed like Donna Reed, lemme see some ID."

Naturally, I'm taking it to an absurd extreme, but "Transgender Bathroom Panic" seems to be the next logical step, since the Rubicon has been crossed.

Here's a good piece from MOJO about how this is "Model Legislation" is spawned of a hate group...
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/04/alliance-defending-freedom-lobbies-anti-lgbt-bathroom-bills

[Proud Liberal Dem]

14. The thing that aggravates me the most about these laws/discussions

is that the people pushing these bills don't understand the concept of "Transgender" or what it means for somebody to be Transgender or the whole range of the spectrum when it applies to gender. Transgender women don't identify nor think of themselves as "men in a dress" (thinking of them as such would be offensive to them in the first place). They identify as women (and should be considered as such). They are taking themselves into the women's restrooms to do the exact same thing as other women: use the toilets. I also think that Republicans/right-wingers have some really bizarre and perverted notions about what happens in most bathrooms. Even though I'm sure they visit public restrooms all of the time, they sure do seem to think that bathrooms are wild "swingers clubs" where people are regularly meeting for sexual activity. They must think that women's restrooms must be extra-special places to be because they think that a lot of cis(male-identified)-males want to be in bathrooms with women so bad that they will dress up in drag just to gain admittance. I'm sorry but they are f*****g delusional/crazy/insane if they actually believe that most straight cis-gender males- whom feel intense pressure to prove their manhood every single day of their lives- will dress up in drag just to be able to gain admittance to the women's restrooms.

[2naSalit]

25. But they dont WANT to understand...

if it doesn't fit their imagined "reality" then it's not a gawd-approved whatever and has to be eradicated so they can be happy and blissful because nobody/nothing has any right to anything - including to exist - without approval of their idea of gawd.

Understanding is capitulation to evil in their two-celled brainz.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

43. Oh, I totally get that they don't WANT to understand

To them, knowledge of anything (other than maybe the Bible and the "correct" fundagelical interpretation thereof) is dangerous and, by extension, EVIL! Also, to them, tolerance of persons different to themselves, is like the "Eighth Deadly Sin"- and something to be avoided at all costs, so they wouldn't be caught dead trying to seek peace and better understanding.

[2naSalit]

45. Grew up with a certain

portion of my immediate relatives cramming crap like that down my throat on a regular basis.. I was gonna go to HELL for listening to rock 'n' roll music.

[DetroitSocialist83]

8. This happened to my friend in Detroit

She is suing.

[One_Life_To_Give]

12. Keep us posted pls

If there is any news we could link to it would be appreciated.

[Brickbat]

16. "it certainly looks legitimate."

Oh, well then.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

20. Being a middle-aged hetero man, I'm about as far from the things the LGBT community has...

...has to deal with as one can get but this breaks my heart and it scares the living hell out of me.

It's like something right out of a dystopian nightmare.



I fucking HATE repub cons with a white-hot passion!

[mentalsolstice]

21. What if she had an ID and she had a gender neutral name?

What if s/he is named Pat? These laws are so much bullshit!

[2naSalit]

27. I went to college

with two different classmates named Kevin and they were women and born that way.

Ignorance reveals itself in a hurry.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

23. straight women can be crazy protective about bathrooms

they always give my wife these crazy burning stares, because she is masculine looking. I really don't know what they think she is going to do to them. half these women are twice her size and age, do they think she is going to forcibly take them in the stall?

i really don't get this bathroom protectiveness.

[2naSalit]

31. They are running out of

believable ways to discriminate (thanks to civil rights laws and all that) so they are really reaching to come up with new ways to express their hatred. It's why they keep fighting for theocracy because that would allow them to once again hide behind gawd with no other explanation or reasonable excuse. Gawd is imaginary so they can make stuff up and blame it all on their imaginary friend and protector.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

44. I think that that is a lot of it

They are flailing around at this point with these bathroom bills and "religious liberty" bills. The good news is that these bills will probably ultimately fail in the courts, which pretty much means that the only thing left to do after these get shot down is simply to prevent the enactment of new civil rights laws and protections for LGBTs (which is likely unsustainable in the long-term because eventually there will be federal protections). The bad news is that it won't stop wingnuts in charge of legislatures everywhere from trying to introduce, pass, and enforce them- until these laws get challenged and wind their way slowly through the court system.

[gordianot]

29. I am waiting for someone to get killed in a restroom over this nonsense.

Then the stalker claims a stand your ground defense.

[davidn3600]

40. Apparently a California lawyer says she's bringing a gun in the bathroom with her

https://www.yahoo.com/news/anti-lgbt-lawyer-bring-gun-190600695.html

Someone is going to eventually get killed..

[AlbertCat]

30. Meanwhile.... on the other side of town....

..... someone was being robbed/ assaulted/ murdered..... but Officer Onthejob was busy taking care of more pressing threats!

[NowSam]

32. Cue Stars and Stripes Forever

Ain't 2016 America just beautiful?

[geardaddy]

35. What are male cops doing in a women's restroom?

[Hekate]

41. Did you cross-check with Snopes.com? There's been some iffy stuff going around.

[Beaverhausen]

42. I read on Facebook this happened in January