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JEB

(4,748 posts)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:58 PM Apr 2016

A Member of Congress Just Issued a Warning to the World Bank: 'Stop Privatizing Water'

Rep. Gwen Moore's actions could mean the beginning of the end of the World Bank’s harmful water-for-profit pursuits.
By Jesse Bragg

http://www.alternet.org/water/member-congress-just-issued-warning-world-bank-stop-privatizing-water

Around the globe, people’s access to water is being threatened every day by one of the most powerful institutions on the globe—the World Bank. Under the guise of development, the World Bank and its investment arm, the International Finance Corporation, invest hundreds of millions in water privatization schemes that reduce access to water, increase costs and have a devastating impact on people. What’s worse is that the IFC often positions itself to profit from these projects, creating an irreconcilable conflict of interest.

But one congresswoman just took a stand against this threat that could mean the beginning of the end of the World Bank’s harmful water-for-profit pursuits. In a letter, Representative Gwen Moore (D-WI) demanded the World Bank cease all promotion and financing of these projects pending an external review and congressional hearings on conflicts of interest. Decause Moore is the ranking member of a subcommittee with direct World Bank oversight, it has no choice but to listen.

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Glad that somebody is standing up to the Neoliberal rush to kill the commons and put everything of value into private for profit hands.

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A Member of Congress Just Issued a Warning to the World Bank: 'Stop Privatizing Water' (Original Post) JEB Apr 2016 OP
Good For Her noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #1
K&R 2naSalit Apr 2016 #2
K & R malaise Apr 2016 #3
"They want us dead" KansDem Apr 2016 #15
I don't think they actually want us dead Turbineguy Apr 2016 #19
Don't think you know them well enough malaise Apr 2016 #22
Look at World War I Turbineguy Apr 2016 #24
And they didn't give a fugg malaise Apr 2016 #25
Our water was sold to speculators (RWE), our water went from$19 mon to $70 mon alfredo Apr 2016 #27
If they could find a way to charge us for oxygen malaise Apr 2016 #30
what do you think pollution is about? hollysmom Apr 2016 #31
You have a point malaise Apr 2016 #33
sullying the air so they can sell us oxygen in tanks! cui bono Apr 2016 #52
You know it. I was just thinking the same thing. Evil, self-centered people. C Moon Apr 2016 #41
They don't own the sun, so solar must be opposed. alfredo Apr 2016 #44
You nailed it malaise Apr 2016 #56
That's an old one from the early 70's alfredo Apr 2016 #59
"Because their masters had had a falling out . . . " hatrack Apr 2016 #43
They want wealth. To have wealth you need more assets than the others. That's wealth. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #53
They don't care if we die malaise Apr 2016 #57
Good point. Also, lying about caring is also shitty. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #64
Precisely malaise Apr 2016 #65
I wish I could draw. I see a picture of the Oligarchy setting a big steel toothed trap rhett o rick Apr 2016 #66
Plus many ReasonableToo Apr 2016 #61
They were trying to privatize Flint water system. It started the lead crisis. Fucking 3rd Way... whereisjustice Apr 2016 #4
Global corporatists, you can't have it all. Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #5
Moore's opponent next election will be sponsored by Nestle NightWatcher Apr 2016 #6
K&R!!! G_j Apr 2016 #7
K & R. Market Money Worship Kills appalachiablue Apr 2016 #8
Excellent. Privatization is a bigger threat to America than al'Qaeda is. Initech Apr 2016 #9
The Commons CrispyQ Apr 2016 #10
no, they don't. and to my exerience, haven't for a long time magical thyme Apr 2016 #58
Another site reporting... JEB Apr 2016 #11
One company to beware of is.......... mrmpa Apr 2016 #12
Thanks for the link. nt JEB Apr 2016 #13
I started to boycott Nestles. I was amazed to see how many products they make. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #17
You have a right to buy their bottled water arikara Apr 2016 #42
That people don't see this as wrong just amazes me. CrispyQ Apr 2016 #63
Kicked and recommended! Stop abusing the people of the world. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #14
Chop. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #40
Bravo! to Rep. Moore chapdrum Apr 2016 #16
Excellent idea. nt JEB Apr 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Apr 2016 #20
Yep, excellent idea. n/t truedelphi Apr 2016 #48
Don't worry all of the donors are democratic. maggies farm Apr 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author FreedomRain Apr 2016 #35
Yep, it's a two party system all right arikara Apr 2016 #45
"Don't worry, all the donors are Democrats." truedelphi Apr 2016 #49
MY congresswoman. awesome. pansypoo53219 Apr 2016 #23
K&R felix_numinous Apr 2016 #26
Water is a basic right for all the species of life on earth WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2016 #28
Some poster on DU zentrum Apr 2016 #29
Keep in mind that President Bill Clinton got his Bill through the Republican Congress easily. DhhD Apr 2016 #36
Well said. zentrum Apr 2016 #38
All excellent points Optimism Apr 2016 #51
1998 was the same year Bill swallowed the PNAC line about WMD cprise Apr 2016 #50
Wow—I didn't zentrum Apr 2016 #62
The world bank and the WTO are sold as helping the poor hollysmom Apr 2016 #32
Goal is to privatize and steal their natural resources. DhhD Apr 2016 #37
A serious issue. Glad someone has noticed. Sienna86 Apr 2016 #34
World Bank Mafia is a shameful institution. Hoarders of natural resources. Destroyers of Nature. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #39
I am beginning to get hopeless... Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #46
Talk about trickle down economy. JEB Apr 2016 #47
Enron and Dumya... IthinkThereforeIAM Apr 2016 #54
It's about time. I hope others will folllow suit. senz Apr 2016 #55
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #60
Interesting choice of words,"Glad that somebody is standing up to the Neoliberal rush to kill ViseGrip Apr 2016 #67
That came from OUR congress? Baitball Blogger Apr 2016 #68
After the Last AKBerniecrat Apr 2016 #69
K and R geardaddy Apr 2016 #70
You'll never guess who started this whole water privatization thing KamaAina Apr 2016 #71
Air filtration masks will be sold by the Koch brothers pbmus Apr 2016 #72

Turbineguy

(37,343 posts)
19. I don't think they actually want us dead
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:36 PM
Apr 2016

it's just that it's the only thing they are capable of doing.

Turbineguy

(37,343 posts)
24. Look at World War I
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:47 PM
Apr 2016

everybody could see where things were going and had a pretty shrewd idea of the effect, yet they did not stop it. And when it was over they set the stage for World War II.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
30. If they could find a way to charge us for oxygen
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 04:34 PM
Apr 2016

they would

That Pie video was perfect and it did not apply to Britain alone.


cui bono

(19,926 posts)
52. sullying the air so they can sell us oxygen in tanks!
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:26 PM
Apr 2016

They'll start with ginormous ones that we will all buy since we need to breathe. Then they'll introduce smaller, lighter versions which we'll all buy because we need to get around while we're breathing. Then even smaller, lighter and they'll introduce a usb charger in them. Then they'll keep making them more and more compact with more and more extra features on them until they figure out the next thing they can charge us for and make devices we will need in order to use this next thing.



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hatrack

(59,587 posts)
43. "Because their masters had had a falling out . . . "
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:19 PM
Apr 2016

Still the best single quote I can think of regarding the First World War.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
53. They want wealth. To have wealth you need more assets than the others. That's wealth.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:19 AM
Apr 2016

Capitalism is all about gaining wealth. Those that seek wealth don't actually want us to die, but we have resources they want and if we die as a result of them stealing it, it's not personal, it's just business.

What is sad is that those that support Clinton, the conservative wing of our party are willing to ignore the suffering of many in the 99% to support the widening of the wealth gap. Clinton has made no indication that she will work to stop the ever widening wealth gap that has made her superwealthy.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
65. Precisely
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:29 AM
Apr 2016

So they're in it for themselves while trying to con the rest of humanity into believing that they give a flying fugg.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
66. I wish I could draw. I see a picture of the Oligarchy setting a big steel toothed trap
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:39 AM
Apr 2016

labeled economic disaster (for the 99%) with same sex marriage as the bait. Social justice is worthless if we all end up living in the streets. People should look to Haiti and see what happens when capitalism is done. See if the people there care about social justice issues.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
10. The Commons
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:59 PM
Apr 2016

Do they even teach about it in school anymore? We got it in fifth grade civics class. An entire year of civics, imagine that.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
58. no, they don't. and to my exerience, haven't for a long time
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:04 AM
Apr 2016

I'm 62. I never heard of "the commons" until the last couple years when The Archdruid introduced the concept in his writings. And I went to a "good" public school.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
11. Another site reporting...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:11 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.humanosphere.org/world-politics/2016/04/congresswoman-calls-for-halt-of-and-investignation-into-world-bank-water-investments/

The practice of the World Bank both advising countries on water and investing in private water companies presents a concerning conflict of interest, said Rep. Gwen Moore, D-Wisc., in a letter addressed to World Bank head Jim Kim. In it, Moore urges the Bank to immediately “cease promoting privatization of water resources until there has been a robust outside evaluation.”

“I am increasingly uneasy with water resource privatization in developing countries and do not believe that the current ring-fencing policies separating the investment and advising functions of the [International Finance Corporation] are adequate,” she writes. “I would respectfully urge the WBG and IFC to cease promoting and funding privatization of water resources, including so-called ‘public-private partnerships’ in the water sector, until there has been a robust outside evaluation.”

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
12. One company to beware of is..........
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:21 PM
Apr 2016

Nestles. The CEO a couple of years back stated that people do not have a right to water. Saying I don't have a right to water, is like saying I don't have the right to live. Reason it equates, is because I cannot live without water.


http://www.trueactivist.com/nestle-ceo-water-is-not-a-human-right-should-be-privatized/

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
17. I started to boycott Nestles. I was amazed to see how many products they make.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:31 PM
Apr 2016

The CEO is evil. How evil? Just as evil as Adolph Hitler IMO.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
63. That people don't see this as wrong just amazes me.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:56 AM
Apr 2016

Selling off our Commons so private companies can profit from them.

We don't have a democracy.
We have an auction.



Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
14. Kicked and recommended! Stop abusing the people of the world.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:30 PM
Apr 2016

Or else!

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chapdrum

(930 posts)
16. Bravo! to Rep. Moore
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:31 PM
Apr 2016

Imo, this (and climate change) are the two top issues facing humanity.

Water as private property?

That's carrying free market hooey just a tad too far.

Am going to Rep. Moore's site right now, to thank her.

Response to chapdrum (Reply #16)

 

maggies farm

(79 posts)
21. Don't worry all of the donors are democratic.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 02:43 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:25 PM - Edit history (1)

For the last 15 years I have worked in one of the wealthiest zip codes in the nation. I provide computer services. In Montecito California there are a lot of small home offices. I will not name drop but you would clearly recognize some of the clients I have had over the years if I were to disclose.

I have a story that I am going to greatly truncate.

Several years back it came to my attention that some land was about to enter the market. It has a set of mineral hot springs. It produces about 50 million gallons a year on the front range of the San Ysidro Mountains and within 6 miles of the city of Santa Barbara.

Santa Barbara and the Channel Islands has a very long history with the Chumash people dating back over 10,000 years. The Spanish Mission era started at around 1769 when the path to the springs were first noted by Europeans. It is at the point of a young state of California that the present history of the springs took a sharp departure. These springs used for upwards of 10,000 years were shared with a white dying man that likely had heavy metal poisoning from quicksilver (mercury) mining over the mountain. (Mineral thermal water are known for chelating heavy metal toxins.) The man healed and promptly filed a land patent on the springs starting the history of coming to Santa Barbara to take advantage of the clime and it's mineral waters in the area.

Mineral waters throughout the US were respected and revered much like the Roman baths but it reached a peak in America and with the beginning of medical colleges and patented medicines those waters as therapy went into decline. There were a series of hotels from the 1860's all the way to the 1964 Coyote Fire.

In 1897 a set of water rights were wrangled at the springs for the downstream estates in Montecito. In that elaborate set of water rights 50% of the water went to a private water company and the other 50% remained with the land owner to be used for the various soaks and plunges.

When the land came for sale a local land trust organization spearheaded the effort to acquire the land and springs. I learned such an organization is not an environmental or conservation organization but a 'fixer' of properties that have various constraints and might not be fully developable. The outcome might provide some form of tax remedy and might include conservation easements or open spaces. In this case it was to be an outright conveyance to the USFS which has surrounding land.

What I discovered in the end was this. The idea was to convey the land and springs to the USFS, but forever remove water so that the public would not be able to soak in the springs! The USFS is notorious for poorly managing hot springs. To them it often is little more than an attractant nuisance, and with increasing budget constraints they cannot manage resources like springs.

My client at the time was the last house of one side of Hot Spring creek, told me when I knew what the endgame would be said, "don't worry all of the donors are democratics", the primary donor that put up 6 million dollars for the purchase lives across the creek and last house before entering into the chaparral forest leading up to the springs a mile away told me by direct conversation, "I considered buying the land for myself and bulldozing and capping the springs so no one would ever be able to soak in those waters again!" A classic case of NIMBY and wealth.

Today the USFS now owns the land, and it also now controls 50% of the water and that 50% is provided as permissive use at no cost to a private water company to feed estates that rival many municipal parks found throughout the U.S. We are talking about 25 million gallons of water a year given freely by our government - that is your water to the detriment of an effectively dewaterd creek with endangered steelhead downstream along with the needs of the flora and fauna found within the watershed itself. To soak in waters that were used for therapeutic and the lesser recreational purposes of relaxation for over 10,000 years are no longer available to the public on public lands and is an actual crime to enter those waters.

I must say I have seen the impacts and greed of wealth and particularly democratic wealth first hand. The fella that put up the 6 million dollars is a heavy democratic funder.

You can dig deeply through this facebook page Montecito Hot Springs and get a good idea what we are really faced with regarding the collusion of government with the lofty one percenters (democratic and republican). Here is an example of one of the estates receiving OUR water that is considered as non-potable irrigating water. These springs make this estate possible!

Response to maggies farm (Reply #21)

arikara

(5,562 posts)
45. Yep, it's a two party system all right
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:26 PM
Apr 2016

Each takes a turn at the same trough. Anyone who can't see that they aren't run by the same 1%ers is blind or stupid.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
49. "Don't worry, all the donors are Democrats."
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:58 PM
Apr 2016

Bwahahaha! if only it were not so damn tragic.

the Republicans - at least the rank and file - have a better history of caring about water than the Democrats in California.

Although "D" Governor Davis gave up his political career to protect the integrity of our water. (And Senator Di Feinstein stood by "idly" while Davis was removed. Because she was allied with the same Big Oil forces that took out Davis.)

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
29. Some poster on DU
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 04:24 PM
Apr 2016

….(wish I could remember her/his name) made the point that the Iraq War was how we privatized that country. Really important way to put it. That's exactly what happened.

Don't forget that water in Flint has been privatized too. By making the local water undrinkable, the contract to supply water (bottled) has gone to Nestles.
Racism mixed with private profit.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
36. Keep in mind that President Bill Clinton got his Bill through the Republican Congress easily.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 07:18 PM
Apr 2016

The 1998 FAIR Legislation, allowed the privatization of everything that government could not stop. It is a part of US and Global Corporate Fascism. Republicans call it the New World Order.

During the Clinton Presidency, Iraq had one after another inspectors and fly-overs for a decade. Nothing, no WMD were found then and during the Bush Administration. Bush even admitted that there were not any WMD in a speech.

Then in 2002-03, Hillary voted to allow Bush to privatize Iraq through warfare. Remember that Iraq had noting to do with 9/11. Saddam allowed no al-Qaeda terrorist in Iraq. The US came in shooting up and bombing the city of Baghdad killing so many people, in March of 2003, saying that the Iraqis would pay us back in oil for their new liberty: Operation Iraqi Liberty-OIL.

What other countries have been privatized by the United States since 9/11 and by whom?

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
38. Well said.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:04 PM
Apr 2016

Bill and Hill are Neo-liberal poster children.

One of the things in the missing HRC emails is correspondence with France about re-asserting France's colonial hold over Syria and the whole area. And another word for colonialization is privatization. So we are having a hand in that mess.

I think Haiti, since the hurricane, is an example of this too. "Aid" including the Clinton Foundation "aid" has left most of the country in shambles but the beach has been privatized into luxury hotel complexes.

Puerto Rico is and isn't a country—I think it wanted statehood and don't know why it's not granted. But it's being forced to accept extreme austerity. So I suspect great selling off of public assets is going on.

Meantime, Social Security, Public Schooling, the Post Office are all in danger of privatization here at home. And----our War Contractors world-wide privatize the army as well as the country invaded. All on the taxpayers back.

And our insurance delivered health benefits essentially privatize health care.

Then there's all the public lands we let private industry drill on and log.

Oh!—And there's the public airwaves that have in fact been privatized for profit.

Prisons are more and more privatized.

The power to count the vote in elections is privatized.

There's this larger and larger monster in the world.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
50. 1998 was the same year Bill swallowed the PNAC line about WMD
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:00 PM
Apr 2016

It was the Clintons who first gave the neocon conspiracy theories credibility in Washington -- See the 1998 Iraqi Liberation Act. The scandals probably stopped this from becoming a war then.

Five years later Hillary was voting for the war.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
62. Wow—I didn't
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:45 AM
Apr 2016

….know that. Thanks. Will look into it further.

No wonder George Senior calls Bill his other son.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
32. The world bank and the WTO are sold as helping the poor
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 04:41 PM
Apr 2016

but in truth they are wholly owned by corporations and do not function for people, jsut corporations.

they drive countries into total failure in ther "helpful ways" it is time to rethink these organizations and either close them down or restructure them. Have they ever done anything that was wholly good or even partially good?

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
39. World Bank Mafia is a shameful institution. Hoarders of natural resources. Destroyers of Nature.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:08 PM
Apr 2016

Funders of genocide. Extinctors of species. Evil, pure evil.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
46. I am beginning to get hopeless...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:35 PM
Apr 2016

I had hope...it is dying slowly and steadly...

Dolphins dying, selling water to people - when water is a basic need - working like a servant 20 hours overtime a week because corporations are big asses and won't hire more workers....

Hopeless...the planet is dying and we are more concerned with the death of Prince.

RIP Planet Earth

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
54. Enron and Dumya...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:20 AM
Apr 2016

... were big at robbing Argentina of their new water facilities for pennies on the dollar. Enron used Dumya as a reference...


Concise explanation, I have researched this in the past: http://www.hermes-press.com/enronindex.htm

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
55. It's about time. I hope others will folllow suit.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:22 AM
Apr 2016

Water privatization is an obscene concept. It should be against the law.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
67. Interesting choice of words,"Glad that somebody is standing up to the Neoliberal rush to kill
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 10:50 AM
Apr 2016

the commons"....

It's so needed right here....

AKBerniecrat

(1 post)
69. After the Last
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 12:16 PM
Apr 2016
After the Last Breath of Fresh air has been taken, and the last drop of fresh water has been drunk. You will find that you can't Eat The MONEY!
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