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Source: The Guardian and agencies
Staff and agencies in San Diego
Saturday 23 April 2016 03.04 BST
A pit bull terrier crossbreed dog lying in bed with a San Diego couple bit and killed their three-day-old son when it was startled awake.
The parents had been watching television at the time with their newborn and the 44kg (97lb) American Staffordshire terrier-Great Dane mix was lying with them, said Sergeant Tu Nguyen of the San Diego police child abuse unit.
The mum coughed unexpectedly and it startled the dog, which bit the baby, causing traumatic injury, said Nguyen, whose unit investigates the death of any child.
The parents were able to separate the dog from the baby and they rushed him to the hospital but they were not able to save him.
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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/23/pit-bull-kills-newborn-baby-in-bed
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)Stupid to have a dog like that near a kid.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Dumb, dumb, dumb...
linuxman
(2,337 posts)How do you know? Was it DNA tested and confirmed to be a pitbull? I bet it was an American Staffordshire terrier. Or a golden retriever. These are nanny dogs. I leave my 3 month old alone with my pit on the weekends. Here's a picture of one who looks like he's smiling! Poor thing was probably being used in dog fights on the weekend! I'll have you know, my pit hasn't killed me yet!
Did I cover everything?
I would never suggest that all pit bull owners are trashy shitheads, but trashy shitheads absolutely make up the bulk of the pit owners I've encountered.
Rest in peace, kid. You deserved better.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)From article linked in the OP:
Sub-title: "Police in San Diego say American Staffordshire-cross fatally bit three-day-old boy when it was startled while lying down with family in San Diego"
In text of article: "The parents had been watching television at the time with their newborn and the 44kg (97lb) American Staffordshire terrier-Great Dane mix was lying with them, said Sergeant Tu Nguyen of the San Diego police child abuse unit."
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)But this dog was also Great Dane, so twice as big as many pit bulls.
My Good Babushka
(2,710 posts)Why take the chance on having any dog in bed with a newborn baby? You shouldn't.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)My Sheltie was a perfect angel, but I would have never brought her up in a bed with a days-old baby. So sad all around.
malaise
(269,054 posts)He/she isn't lying in our bed with a newborn
Abouttime
(675 posts)Pitbulls need to be gone from civilized society. If one takes an honest look at their history they were bred for dogfighting and no other purpose.
All pitbulls and pitbulls type dogs should be neutered and registered with the proper authorities. In less than 20 years the breed would be eradicated. There is no good reason for another pitbull to be bred or born.
There are tens of millions of pitbull type dogs in this country. They are not a local or even state problem, it's a national problem. I'm tired of the apologists who claim the pitbull breed is just like any other dog. Pitbulls have been "game bred" for 100s of years, their genome is faulty, there's no other choice but to extinguish the breed.
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Boudica the Lyoness
(2,899 posts)Too many pit bulls have been getting 'rid' of other family members.
Abouttime
(675 posts)Just don't breed it.
It should be illegal to breed pitbulls and all existing pitbulls should be sterilized, in 15 years no more pitbulls, simple. It's the 21st century, why do we as a society need dogs bred for fighting?
A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)Like Rat Terriers, Jack Russells, Fox Terriers, etc. etc.?
How about English Bulldogs?
Or French Bulldogs?
Or the official Bicentennial Breed, the Boston Terrier?
There are plenty of things here in the 21st century we don't need that are much more harmful and kill a lot more people, but there is damned little call to eradicate them.
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Brickbat
(19,339 posts)But pitbulls do it better and more often. Not to mention livestock and pet maulings, pitbulls are bred to kill, it's in their genetic code to start fighting and never stop. Pitbulls literally go into a frenzy and cannot be stopped, they are man created monsters and we need to eradicate them from civilized society.
There isn't one good reason anyone should own a pitbull, they are creatures of a time thankfully past born and bred for blood sport.
Pitbulls are no worse than other breeds. Usually they have worse owners though. Who are YOU to say what dog I can own?
Throd
(7,208 posts)Of the 100's of breeds out there, I'm always curious about why some people gravitate to that particular breed.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)they nipped someone.
My nephew adopted a year old pit bull after the shelter convinced him it could be trained out of its shy aggression. A couple years later, after a great deal of training, it still snaps when fearful. I don't know what they'll do when they have children.
A human aggressive pitbull is adopted out of an animal shelter..what could go wrong??
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)So people decide to take a chance.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Yeah, these are powerful dogs and can do a lot of damage quickly. But I wouldn't let my cat or a small dog sleep in the bed with me and a three day old.
womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)34 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2015. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 700 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 82% (28) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6.6% of the total U.S. dog population.2
Together, pit bulls (28) and rottweilers (3), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 91% of the total recorded deaths in 2015. This same combination also accounted for 76% of all fatal attacks during the 11-year period of 2005 to 2015.
The breakdown between these two breeds is substantial over this 11-year period. From 2005 to 2015, pit bulls killed 232 Americans, about one citizen every 17 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 41, about one citizen every 98 days.
In the year of 2015, the combination of pit bulls (28), their close cousins, American bulldogs (2), and rottweilers (3) contributed to 97% (33) of all dog bite-related fatalities. Both American bulldog fatalities occurred in Miami-Dade County, Florida.
Annual data from 2015 shows that 41% (14) of the fatality victims were children ages 9-years and younger, and 59% (20) were adults, ages 22-years and older. Of the total adults killed by canines in 2015, 65% (13) were ages 60-years and older.
flvegan
(64,409 posts)Clueless. Vet your references next time. smh
Next?
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)flvegan
(64,409 posts)Let me know when they do better.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)...in all sorts of legal testimony, peer reviewed studies, and a few times by wiki, which does a pretty good job of vetting pseudoscience.
Anonymous posters on the internet, not so much.
flvegan
(64,409 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)dog attacks 2016 -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States#Fatalities_reported_in_2016
and the detailed very sad stories:
http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2016.php
womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)In NM, the town of Tijeras has had a pit bull ban for 30 yrs.
Village of Tijeras, NM - On March 19, 1984, Angela Hands, 9-years old, was critically injured by four pit bulls belonging to a relative while walking home from school. Two younger pit bulls running loose initiated the attack. The two parent pit bulls then climbed a 6-foot high fenced enclosure and joined the destructive, sustained attack. After receiving extensive reconstructive surgeries, doctors estimated that Angela would continue to undergo these surgeries until she reached the age of 35.1
When the dogs finished with her, Angie Hands' right leg was gnawed to the bone. Flesh and muscle had been gouged from her upper arms, and the 9-year old's ear was ripped in half. - Syracus Herald-Journal, 19852
Just under two months later, the Village of Tijeras adopted a pit bull ban. The Court of Appeals of New Mexico upheld the constitutionality of the ban in 1988, which helped lay the legal framework for bans adopted by Denver and Miami in 1989. We discovered the Angela Hands footage3 while watching the Lucas County Dog Warden Dogfighting Compilation DVD (1987-1997). We captured key segments from the DVD to create this video, which reflects upon that time period and today.
http://blog.dogsbite.org/2014/03/30-year-anniversary-of-historic-pit-bull-attack-victim-angela-hands.html
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awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)has a higher tendency of doing this.
flvegan
(64,409 posts)And back it up.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)!
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Sad.
RIP to the baby.
Mariana
(14,858 posts)their dog would never, ever do anything like this.
Although I wouldn't be surprised if this dog has a history. It's just not normal for a dog to attack a baby because Mom coughed in bed.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)coughed.
Mariana
(14,858 posts)From the story: The parents were able to separate the dog from the baby..." You don't have to do that when a startled dog nips someone.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)it's one of the reasons why I never let our Sheltie, as sweet as she was, sleep in a bed with our kids. Not ever happening in my house. Hello people... Sometimes, you can't fix stupid, and these people were stupid.
Peregrine Took
(7,415 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)I'm shocked to find the 'Husky' as #3 in the most dangerous list. They don't distinguish between the Siberian or American Husky however.
Mine absolutely loves kids but still, I would never leave him with a infant/toddler.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)An American Husky is just a Siberian mixed with another breed. Usually Malamute, Shepard, Inuit, etc.
Mine had a siberian dad and an American mom. I was always very aware of the damage those teeth could do if I did not do MY job by controlling him. I would have never let him near a baby. Not a risk I would be willing to take.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)aggressive at all except...
One evening he was sleeping next to me as I watched tv and all the sudden in his sleep, he turned into a cujo during that dream. Damn those teeth!!!
I sure wouldn't want to have to tangle with him if he was pissed off. Wish I had taped it as it was truly hard to believe.
I was doing some further reading after posting this and learned that a lot of dogs get thrown into the category of "Husky" such as the more aggressive breeds, Malamute, Akita, etc.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I saw mine snarl when I went to take his meat bone away. After a brief "discussion" He never ever did that again towards me and I made sure he never had one at a time or place where things could turn bad with other people.
I never blame the animal when things like this happen. It is the human being with whom the "buck stops".
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)The small dog owner, I'm sorry to say, was stupid for having that tiny dog in a park with big dogs. The Husky looked down at that smal dog like it was a rodent, picked up, shook it and tossed it. It happened so fast.
And yeah, I would never leave any dog with a toddler or infant. Stupid.
I don't like my 13 year old cattle-dog/sharpei mix around kids too much. It's just not worth the risk.
My neighbor's 4 year old absolutely loves her. Last year we were on the back deck with the kid playing. I was getting a little nervous. Her and the dog went running across the deck and got their feet tangled and fell on eachother. The kid comes up with a scratch on her nose. Was it a claw, a nip or something else? Luckily it wasn't much more than a cherry.
My other neighbor's 3 year old got nipped in the ear by their Beagle. No one saw it happen. The dog and the kid pretty much tended to steer clear of eachother. My guess is the kid fell on the dog while the dog was in his own bed. It required a trip to the ER and a couple stitches. Of course, the ER was obligated to call the police. The cops didn't press the issue.
Mariana
(14,858 posts)They told the cops they were watching TV in bed with the baby and the dog was on the bed too. They were right there.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)A dog, no matter what breed, can do a lot of damage to an infant in the blink of an eye.
Would a dog even understand what and who a 3 day old is?
Sad all the way around.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)flvegan
(64,409 posts)I smell Merritt Clifton.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)same dog.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)TDale313
(7,820 posts)As I said above, I wouldn't have my cat or small dog in bed with me and the three day old.
I feel horrible for all involved. Heartbreaking.
Nay
(12,051 posts)takes no time at all. Split seconds. I would NEVER allow ANY animal near a baby or toddler for exactly that reason.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)I was afraid he'd roll over on him.
We had a rottweiler at the time and and she was so gentle with my son but they were never, ever, EVER left alone together. She would get in her crate to get away from my son when he got a little older.
flvegan
(64,409 posts)Pit Bull headlines get you! We call that clickbait.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Title is just inflammatory.
Could have said Great Dane mix kills baby
Orrex
(63,216 posts)Because dogs are family members and are as good as people no strike that they're better than people and dogs can only do good and anything bad that dogs do is some stupid human's fault and I'll bet the human bit the baby and blamed it on the dog and why do you hate pitbulls you stupid blind genocidal ignorant racist?!?!?!?!?
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)and then they need to be slapped for shitting.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)a dog can just stand up and step on the infant and kill it.
Bettie
(16,110 posts)You need to be fully aware of where the dog is and where the baby is and keep them both supervised to avoid tragic accidents.
If your dog is easily startled, you need to take extra caution.
Even with our very gentle, kid-friendly dog, when our youngest was born, we were very careful when he was around her.
It is all about using common sense, not about a particular breed of dog.
JI7
(89,252 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)It was a mutt. It wasn't a Pit Bull any more than it was a Great Dane.
And if it was that nervous that it would attack just because it was startled, it shouldn't have been around people at all, much less a baby.
But of course these simple facts won't sway those who advocate for canine genocide, want to trample on human rights & want to rip families apart.