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This Republican reckoning has been in the works for a long time. When the party turned against the Civil Rights Act in the '60s, concocting its southern strategy to win disaffected white Democrats, it signed a deal with the devil known as racism. Each passing election brought the party of Lincoln closer and closer to official bigotry.
- http://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/outlook/article/Parker-Latino-vote-a-sleeping-giant-has-been-7304507.php
Donald Trump is the eternal gift to the Democrats this year, I don't think everyone truly sees the enormity of the fear and loathing he has engendered in minority communities, particularly Latinos.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)lets just hope it plays out like we feel it will..
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)becoming U.S. citizens to vote against Trump. Fortunately, it appears most blame the GOP for him.
I'm afraid this Houston Chronicle author's view of GOP racial history is extremely overly kind. The GOP hasn't been anything Lincoln would join for going on 150 years. It has had many shots at becoming the party of conservative Latinos, never liberal, but instead might as well have been trying to drive them into a unified force against the GOP.
I hope this author is at least right when he says they're now awakened. We've not been hearing nearly enough about what's going on with such a potentially huge power block in America, or not. Even this late most articles are all speculation. Everyone's wondering -- will they finally rock the vote? According to Pew, of almost 57 million Latinos, 27 million are eligible to vote.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)It won't escape notice that he was invited to the Vatican by the first Latin American Pope.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Bernie's friend managed to wangle an invite for him to the Pontifical Academy's conference, which receives a portion of is funding from the Vatican. This was odd because the conference was set up to celebrate the 25th anniversary of John Paul's encyclical on why capitalism was better than communism. But Bernie was determined to go anyway, hoping for some good publicity right before the NY primary.
Bernie's friend was staying in the same guest house where the Pope lives. He arranged for Bernie to say there, too. They waylaid the Pope in the hall at 6 am in the morning, as he was heading out on his way to Greece.
The Pope says that it was a polite handshake, nothing more; and that anyone who thinks it was anything political should see a psychiatrist.
The Hispanics in New York wasn't fooled by this publicity stunt. Neither will Hispanics in California. They understand that this was just the left wing version of the Kim Davis "audience" with the Pope.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Bernie didn't care about celebrating a 25 year old encyclical on the virtues of capitalism -- which was the purpose of the conference he attended. This was blatant pandering to the Catholic vote, and he just looked ridiculous.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)And thus everything he does, everything he says, translates into something despicable in your mind.
appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)Try to be more a bit more negative, nasty and obvious in language, sure you can.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)He did wangle an invitation. He did an end-run around the woman who is the President of the Pontifical Academy, in what she termed an act of monumental discourtesy, and secured an invite from a Bishop board member instead.
And the Pope himself said the 6 a.m. encounter was a handshake and nothing more.
http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2016/04/16/pope-francis-calls-sanders-greeting-only-common-courtesy/
Sanders was staying at the same residence, because thats where all participants in the Vatican conference he attended on Friday were spending the night. The only exceptions were Presidents Evo Morales of Bolivia and Rafael Correa of Ecuador, who stayed at their countrys embassy in Rome.
This morning as I was leaving, Senator Sanders was there, Francis said. He knew I was coming out at that time, and he had the kindness to greet me.
When I came down, he introduced himself, I greeted him with a handshake, and nothing more, the pope added. Its common courtesy, this is called common courtesy.
If someone thinks that greeting someone is getting involved in politics, he said, I recommend that they find a psychiatrist.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-08/sanders-accused-of-discourtesy-in-seeking-vatican-invitation
However Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, the chancellor of the Academy, speaking on the phone from New York, said he extended the invitation to Sanders, though he repeatedly declined to say who initiated the contact.
appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)Archer story is old, it was Bishop Sorono on the invitation from the Social Sciences Academy who clarified. Done, over. The demeaning wording and tone of your comment was what I remarked on.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)And a "polite handshake" is what I said, versus the Pope's words "a handshake, nothing more." and "Common courtesy."
I said waylaid, and other reports said stalked and ambushed. If you prefer those other terms, fine.
appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)'wangle an invite', 'waylaid the Pope', 'polite handshake, nothing more'.
'Other reports, stalked and ambushed', what crud. Get real and don't try to put words in my mouth.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)But, for other reasons.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)And we know that the Pope never invited Sanders to The Vatican.
Did you notice that Sanders lost the Catholic vote in NY?
Chakab
(1,727 posts)Trump's bluster, Obama has already enacted that reality.
He's deported more immigrants than every president from the 20th century combined.
http://fusion.net/story/252637/obama-has-deported-more-immigrants-than-any-other-president-now-hes-running-up-the-score/
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)Translated Lyrics
Hes the man with a vision
to better this country.
Running for president
but the rich dont want him.
Bernie Sanders is his name.
Now you're going to feel his burn.
New York is the state where he was born.
Brooklyn where he grew up.
As kid he started noticing
the rich getting richer
and the poor working longer hours.
Still many don't make enough to survive.
He's the son of Immigrants
who came in search of better lives.
Working to succeed
like we all do every day.
We come here with the same dream:
Provide our families a better chance at life.
The rich and the media don't like him
and theyre scared that he can win.
He wants college to be free
so our children can progress.
He believes health care is for all.
Not a business, but a human right.
Years ago, in Chicago, he was arrested
for protesting against segregation.
He doesnt care about the color of your skin
to him we are all children of God.
Many call him Robin Hood
others call him The Bern.
Fighting for the rights of the people
even law enforcement could not stop him.
He'll keep battling until he becomes
president of this nation.
Bernie Sanders is his name.
This is his corrido The Bern!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)You'll notice that disgusting anti-Sanders and fawning pro-Clinton pieces are allowed ot fill GD, LBN, and the Video forum endlessly, but if someone posts something for bernie or against Clinton in any of those, it's like...
^H: "OMG THIS BELONGS SOMEWHERE ELSE LOCK IT LOCK IT AAAUUUUUUGH!"
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)But I would say in the last decade, there is a clear movement to the left. Donald Trump has single handedly managed to light the fire under any asian's ass to not walk, but run to the left. To the OP, I completely agree. Trump has been a godsen for us.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Which one of the following issues will be the most important in deciding your vote for President in November 2016?
Jobs and the economy 33%
Immigration 17%
Education 16%
Healthcare 11%
Terrorism 9%
Foreign policy 4%
Global climate change 3%
Same sex marriage 1%
Other 3%
No opinion 2%
This was back in February. Same sex marriage is basically not an issue. No mention of abortion. I've read that Latinos are far more aware and accepting of the reality of global warming than the average American, but basically "it's the economy stupid," then a cluster of education, immigration, and healthcare.
Most Hispanics say the country is on the wrong track, and among Democrats Hispanics are more negative than the public overall - 46 percent.
Hispanics lean heavily toward supporting Democrats over Republicans - 51 percent to 14 for the GOP, but 32% say they are unsure whom to support. (14+32=46%!)
Yet, 74 percent of Hispanic voters say Trump's views on immigration are offensive, but only 29 percent of those who have heard about them say they represent the Republican Party overall. (There could be an unpleasant surprise in here. At least half of all Hispanics are conservative by nature, even if currently pushed away by the GOP.)
Clinton leads by 2 to 1 among Hispanic Democrats, but Sanders performs better with younger voters, 57 - 28.
82 percent of Hispanic voters want the next president to support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, and 43 percent would not vote for a candidate who opposes such a policy.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/wapo-univision-poll-2016/en/
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)Don't say "Donald Trump is the eternal gift to the Democrats this year," or his fans will discover the truth.