I know a family...

[Archae]

Two adults.
5 kids.
7 grand-kids.
7 great-grandkids.
All had vaccines

Not one has autism, not a one.

How do I know this?

They are my family.
I was the middle of the 5 kids.

Vaccines causes autism is total bullshit.

[shraby]

1. Funny thing, what coincides with autism's rise in the population is the emergence of the diapers

that could be thrown away. These became very popular and were/are worn by almost every child and it's close to their skin all day and all night. They are made to absorb liquid so I would guess there are active chemicals in them.
No one ever looks to see if these are actually safe to be in contact with a baby's skin 24 hours a day.

[Laffy Kat]

2. Seems like that would be an easy study.

I have no bias for or against cloth versus disposable diapers, but I do know one autistic child who only wore cloth diapers.

[shraby]

9. I never heard of autism until they had a show on tv in the 1970s.

Guess we all just bumbled through life back then, some being more successful at it and some not so good at it.
I know my g'mother came from a family of 13-none autistic and not of the 13 had austistic children. My g'father on the other side came from a family of 11-none autistic to my knowledge, my father came from a family of 11-none autistic and none had autistic children.
Don't know any that went to the small school I went to either, it was small enough that we knew all the kids in the school, k-12.
Like I said, I never heard of the term until in the 1970s and that was on a show on t.v.

[HuckleB]

6. On correlation, causation, and the "real" cause of autism

http://io9.gizmodo.com/on-correlation-causation-and-the-real-cause-of-auti-1494972271

[ronnie624]

8. Thanks, I appreciate that.

It's a very good read.

[underahedgerow]

3. That's correct. There is no 'rise in autism'. There IS a rise in its correct diagnosis and in the

global awareness of the many aspects and nuances of the condition. With the huge increase in global communications and information sharing at the touch of a button, we all know about everything now.

Back in the dinosaur days (pre-internet) we got all our news from a very small group of media outlets, on the teevee and in print. Unless something had blood all over it (hence the phrase "if it bleeds, it leads&quot we didn't learn about it, unless we went to a public library and read encyclopedias, medical text books and other publications, some of which were decades old.

And diapers don't cause autism either, btw. Although why we teach babies to poo in their underpants, and then spend another 2 years teaching them NOT to is more baffling than the origins and unsubstantiated 'rise' of autism.

[pnwmom]

4. Most teachers know the increase over the last twenty years is real.

They can see it in their classrooms.

[hunter]

5. I know a family where autism seems to be carried as a dominant gene.

Mine.

For every "eccentric" and "successful" scientist, engineer, doctor, or artist among us, for every OCD nurse or technician, there are always a few more relatives entirely rejected by society as dysfunctional and unemployable.

The strong currents of anti-intellectualism in the U.S.A. exist because so many grifters profit from it; from the local fundamentalist preacher to the giant corporations.

Anti-vaccination bullshit is a consequence of that anti-intellectualism.

When corporations like Microsoft, Apple or Monsanto spread their FUD bullshit, when religions spread their own FUD bullshit, when these grifters corrupt our educational and mass media institutions, there are consequences.

One of those consequences is the anti-vaxxer movement.

[edhopper]

7. The cause is obvious

McDonalds and HFCS.