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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDrone strikes: playing God in Pakistan
Thomas Aquinas, Augustine and John Brennan two saints and a counter-terrorism adviser may give the counsel a president feels he needs before adding another al-Qaida suspect to his kill list. But whatever else these authorities do, they do not constitute due process and Barack Obama's administration knows it. It is doing everything it can to avoid scrutiny. It is refusing to publish its standards for putting people on terrorist or assassination lists. What are the target limits? When is a last resort truly a last resort, particularly in areas well back from recognised battlefields? And who is providing independent oversight? Professor Obama, the constitutional lawyer who campaigned against the Iraq war and the Bush administration's elastic definitions of torture, would have had a field day cross-examining in court his older and wiser self as president a man who shuffles through candidates for summary execution by drone strike on a pile of baseball cards. Or would he?
Aaron David Miller, a Middle East adviser to both Republican and Democrat administrations, does not think so. He wrote that there were no substantive differences between Mr Obama and Mitt Romney on foreign policy, other than the president's having a harsher view of Binyamin Netanyahu and a less hawkish one on Vladimir Putin. The rhetoric may have gone out of the war on terror, but as far as the actions themselves go, Mr Obama was, in Miller's view, George W Bush on steroids. This may be harsh, but it is not ill-informed.
From the very first days of his presidency, Mr Obama's training as a lawyer was put to use not in abolishing the worst practices of the Bush era, but in giving himself the wriggle room to preserve and in some cases expand them. Thus the three major policies of the Bush war on terror rendition, military commissions and indefinite detention continue to this day. But Mr Obama has also presided over a massive expansion of secret surveillance of American citizens by the National Security Agency. There is a ferocious crackdown on whistleblowers. He has made more government documents classified than any previous president. And he has become a true believer in drones.
There are at least two concerns about the gathering pace of drone strikes, Mr Obama's weapon of choice against militants sheltering in remote parts of the world Waziristan, Yemen, or Somalia. The first is that at a crucial juncture of an election campaign when a clear Republican opponent has emerged from the swamp of the party's selection process this administration is highlighting the fact that its president is a killer. In this new age of secrecy, three dozen current and former advisers are allowed to talk to the New York Times about the president's role of personally overseeing the shadow war with al-Qaida. Mr Obama has not been shy about the role he personally played in Osama bin Laden's death. His counter-terrorism adviser John Brennan makes speeches defending drone strikes as legal, ethical and wise. This administration is not on the defensive about its summary executions. It positively seeks to advertise them.
Aaron David Miller, a Middle East adviser to both Republican and Democrat administrations, does not think so. He wrote that there were no substantive differences between Mr Obama and Mitt Romney on foreign policy, other than the president's having a harsher view of Binyamin Netanyahu and a less hawkish one on Vladimir Putin. The rhetoric may have gone out of the war on terror, but as far as the actions themselves go, Mr Obama was, in Miller's view, George W Bush on steroids. This may be harsh, but it is not ill-informed.
From the very first days of his presidency, Mr Obama's training as a lawyer was put to use not in abolishing the worst practices of the Bush era, but in giving himself the wriggle room to preserve and in some cases expand them. Thus the three major policies of the Bush war on terror rendition, military commissions and indefinite detention continue to this day. But Mr Obama has also presided over a massive expansion of secret surveillance of American citizens by the National Security Agency. There is a ferocious crackdown on whistleblowers. He has made more government documents classified than any previous president. And he has become a true believer in drones.
There are at least two concerns about the gathering pace of drone strikes, Mr Obama's weapon of choice against militants sheltering in remote parts of the world Waziristan, Yemen, or Somalia. The first is that at a crucial juncture of an election campaign when a clear Republican opponent has emerged from the swamp of the party's selection process this administration is highlighting the fact that its president is a killer. In this new age of secrecy, three dozen current and former advisers are allowed to talk to the New York Times about the president's role of personally overseeing the shadow war with al-Qaida. Mr Obama has not been shy about the role he personally played in Osama bin Laden's death. His counter-terrorism adviser John Brennan makes speeches defending drone strikes as legal, ethical and wise. This administration is not on the defensive about its summary executions. It positively seeks to advertise them.
Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/05/drone-strikes-pakistan
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Drone strikes: playing God in Pakistan (Original Post)
The Northerner
Jun 2012
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Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)1. How long do you think it will be before same sex marriages...
...are recognized throughout the nation? Do you think whom we elect as President will have a significant impact on your answer?
Robb
(39,665 posts)2. Lots to keep up with.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)3. I'd say the Northerner has issues with our drone strike policy. So do I.
And probably more than a few others on this board.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)5. The Northerner definitely has a hobby. n/t
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)4. How dare we play God in Pakistan?
That's the job of radical rightwing nutcases of the Muslim persuasion to do in Pakistan, stoning women, supporting groups that fly planes into our building, etc.