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Javaman

(62,530 posts)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:13 PM Jun 2012

Here's the new internet meme: "The people of WI didn't want the recall...

that's why Barrett lost."

Honestly? Who would benefit the most from this BS being spread far and wide?

It certainly wouldn't be the people.

we are so much smarter than this.

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EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
12. Well, if you have unlimited money, that buys a lot of issue framing
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:37 PM
Jun 2012

for the public. You can convince them that recalls are dishonorable, that the governor is a strong leader, that unions are run by thugs.

I have to go with, yeah, it was the money.

 

GarroHorus

(1,055 posts)
2. It might have something to do with the fact that the people of WI oerwhelmingly didn't want it.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:15 PM
Jun 2012

60% said it should not be used over policy.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
9. What an odd responce...
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:25 PM
Jun 2012

I'm pointing out that various people here on DU are continuing this message and, if you read my entire post, that we are smarter than this to believe it.

money buys a lot of things such as pounding ridiculous messages into peoples brains. Like them believing that the recall was useless thus distracting us from doing it in the future.

See how it works?

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
13. It wasn't an odd response as far as I was concerned.I heard nothing
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:41 PM
Jun 2012

about it until you posted it.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
6. The more they can deflect attention from the actual issues
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:18 PM
Jun 2012

and Walker's stunts that pissed off so many to begin with, the better...


"The people of WI didn't want the recall" is subconscious code for "There was no legit reason to recall Walker"

(never forget the power of language)

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
15. While I understand that message ...
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:44 PM
Jun 2012

there ARE plenty of people that believe recalling a duly elected official because you don't like what he/she is doing politically, is NOT a legitimate reason to use the recall. Especially since we have a time honored mechanism, i.e., voting him/her out at the end of his/her term.

For example, would you see it legitimate to initiate a recall of President Obama (if there were such a tool) because he established single-payer healthcare via Executive Order?

Probably not. Right? How would that be any different?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
16. Obama would need to break a law or do something way out of constitutional bounds
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 05:02 PM
Jun 2012

to get impeached (and although the GOP likes to toss the word around with their base, they know it's a political impossibility to act on)...Recalls and impeachment all have their criteria...The funny part is I was on DU during the Cali recall, and nobody in the media nor even our side ever made a peep of the "You can't recall someone for political differences" -meme

And this just didn't start on a whim -- If the law says you don't *need* a reason as long as you get the petition signatures and deal with the other hurdles, then that's what you work with...One of the many reasons a recall (in theory) is preferable is because you don't want to let some incompetent jaggoff burn the state to the ground while waiting for his term to run out...Walker is no innocent victim in this, although he plays one on TV...

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
18. Point Made ...
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 06:09 PM
Jun 2012

But I, personally, think it's bad practice to initiate a recall over political differences because that's what election cycles are for.

But that's not to say I would have message voted here, as many independents and Wisconsin Democrats did.

I will (almost) always vote my short-time interests, i.e., voted for Barrett, because "in the long-run, we're all dead."

DoBotherMe

(2,340 posts)
7. 24/7 the GOP ran ads that said a recall was undemocratic
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 04:21 PM
Jun 2012

that's why voters listed it as a reason to vote for walker. The election was bought and paid for by corporate, outside money. The candidate with the most money always wins. Dana ; )

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