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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLast night was a win as far as I am concerned.
Yes, we didn't win it all but the republicans lost.
We did win back the Senate but that isn't the most important thing.
For all the crowing the repugs know the score. They learned that there is a limit to their bullshit and all the rally's leading up to the recall election are proof of that.
We won because we fought back. The know as well as we do that it cost a lot of money for them to keep Walker in and that they will not be able to push their agenda the way they would like.
They now have to be cautious. The analogy of all that money that went to support Walker is as if an 18 year old, bullying a 5 year old who decides to fight back and the 18 year old coming damn near to getting his ass kicked.....and losing his bike in the process.
What we hear from them today is simply bluster.
They know the reality.
Yesterday was a big win.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)hasn't been able to do much.
MADem
(135,425 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Mayflower1
(100 posts)Please share whatever you are smoking !!
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)Yesterday: Republican Governor and Republican Senate
Today: Republican Governor and Democratic Senate
Yep, we sure did lose ground there.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)this nation has tacked so far right that the party is where the work needs to be done. I will vote to put Dems in congress and the senate and in as many levels of government as possible. In our home, we discussed this late in the evening. It is bad enough that the Teabaggers are railing and gnashing their teeth. On the left, we do not need to match them in being bullies or obstructionists.
You can't sit out elections to make a point. It is unrealistic to put on one man the whole impetus of a hard left swing in this nation when for the past 60+ years the wealthy have mounted a systematic effort to unseat the New Deal. They had a long game and have consistently marshalled resources and rhetoric to push their agenda. They shaped the educational system and international policy to foster an environment in which a Reagan or a Bush could come across as strong and in charge even though they were buffoons. The real power was to be found buried beneath in the seeding of the bureacracy and the media with ideologues.
Those of us on the left need to quit hanging out with our own pet ideological issues and start finding some common ground to work on. I still don't see that happening. Until we stop trying to tear of our individual chunks and start sharing resources, then we will continue to be used in this manner. When you don't have the money, you use your voice and your vote. When you don't have ownership with the media you don't go out and try to help the right take out the few voices we have.
I'm sick of this. I will move forward and use my voice and my vote to support people to the left as they present themselves, but I will not be found among those who continually bash and rip in a fashion that is particularly destructive to the left at this time. In fact, I find some of those who do nothing but bash highly suspect in their motives. If any has an issue with my thinking, so be it. Check back in with me when you've aided and abetted the entrenchment of a new hellacious Republican regime by squandering both your vote and your voice.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)My understanding is the senate is not in session. By the time they do get in session this fall, there is another election with plenty of seats up for grabs to make a Dem hold on the state senate precarious at best.
OhioVoter
(4 posts)With all due respect, your analogy is incorrect. The labor movement spent in excess of $20MM on the first round of recalls, the Supreme Court election, the Democrat Primary and the Walker recall and for the most part got their rear ends handed to them. IMHO, the only reason the recall effort didn't spend as much as the pro-Walker side is that the campaigns themselves, as well as supports of Barrett, labor, etc. knew it was a losing effort and didn't want to throw good money after bad.
This a win in much the same way the NJ Devils (hopefully) getting swept by the LA Kings for the Stanley Cup is a win for NJ, which is to say it's not.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)1 post every 5 years
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Not just today.
There's a fine line between cheering up the troops and being blinded by willful denial.
Or maybe it's a mile wide line.