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WhiteTara

(29,721 posts)
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:33 PM Apr 2016

Legal decision could resonate most in immigration epicenter of Los Angeles

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/legal-decision-could-resonate-most-in-immigration-epicenter-of-los-angeles/2016/04/15/96dbf01c-01ba-11e6-9d36-33d198ea26c5_story.html

LOS ANGELES — There is no place in the country that will be more affected by the Supreme Court battle over President Obama’s plan to shield millions of undocumented immigrants from deportation than sprawling Los Angeles County.

There are an estimated 1 million undocumented people here, about 400,000 of whom could be eligible for the protected status that Obama says would bring them “out of the shadows.”

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“I’m looking at the return the county gets,” said Hilda L. Solis, Obama’s former secretary of labor who is now chair of the powerful Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors. “Do I want them to pay taxes? Absolutely. Do I want them to be established, with some form of identification? Yes. I think we’re all better off, we’re safer.”

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But the state with the second-largest concentration — Texas — is leading the fight against what it and 25 other states say would saddle them with the cost of providing benefits for millions of people newly eligible for work permits and government programs. The crux of the states’ legal argument is that the program, regardless of its merits, represents an unlawful power grab by the president.

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The Obama administration says it is doing nothing more than setting priorities about whom to deport. As a practical matter, it argues, Congress has given the administration only enough money to deport annually no more than about 400,000 of the nation’s estimated 11 million illegal immigrants.

The money should be used to find and deport those with criminal violations, the administration says, rather than immigrants who have established a life here and “anchor families” that would be torn apart by deportation.


Monday will be another big day at the Supreme Court
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Legal decision could resonate most in immigration epicenter of Los Angeles (Original Post) WhiteTara Apr 2016 OP
Tough issue. Wellstone ruled Apr 2016 #1
I agree. 2naSalit Apr 2016 #2
This statement sounds Wellstone ruled Apr 2016 #3
Indeed 2naSalit Apr 2016 #4
One thing about Vegas is,it grows on you. Wellstone ruled Apr 2016 #5
Funny 2naSalit Apr 2016 #6
Lived in North Western Wisconsin and in Wellstone ruled Apr 2016 #7
It's a high percentage here in Albuquerque too Jeffersons Ghost Apr 2016 #8
You wouldn't think so via the Rethugs. Wellstone ruled Apr 2016 #9
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. Tough issue.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:42 PM
Apr 2016

Here in Vegas,our population is close to 60% Hispanic. How many fit the criteria is suspect,and the Casino's will call the shots when push comes to shove. Don't think Adelson or Wynn and others want their work force disrupted. And that is the bottom line.

2naSalit

(86,748 posts)
2. I agree.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 12:52 PM
Apr 2016

In the tiny town down the hill the population is about 1100 and maybe 20% or more is Hispanic... some undocumented, I'm certain. But the grocery store and Hotels couldn't function without them. I have worked with many and made close friends with some. About once every five or so years the feds do a raid, when they start finding new drugs in the area but new replacements show up pretty quickly. As long as a couple of the business owners have a "deal" with the authorities, nobody makes a move.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. This statement sounds
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:06 PM
Apr 2016

cruel,Vegas is a destination City. Retirees and people to supply the support services for retirees. Entertainment via the Casino Business and people to supply the support services to the Casino's. And the Transitory nature of these groups causes the States population to basic churn every Seven years. The most resilient demographic is the Hispanic and the Asian populations,that tend to stay in place and expand their cultures.

All this garbage about sending people back is pure B.S.,just another Right Wing Boggy Man Wedge issue to promote hatred among certain Old Angry White People who are suddenly in the Minority because of the changing nature of our Nation.

As a Old White Person,I rely on younger folks for goods and services,and if they are qualified,fine,you will get my business. Dollars are fungible.

2naSalit

(86,748 posts)
4. Indeed
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:26 PM
Apr 2016

Vegas has that. A lot of my neighbors, townfolk, go to Vegas for a few days out of town or winter there - the business owners that is. The town is small but right outside a major national park so the influx of tourists bloats the population during the "open" season but the Hispanic population are the constant working population and have little competition with the J1s (foreign student workforce) like the non-hispanics do. In summer the town has about 100 J1s during the summer, some of whom don't go home in October.

Yeah, I am the same when it comes to taking care of what I need, a service provided appropriately is okay no matter what ethnicity of the provider.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. One thing about Vegas is,it grows on you.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 02:47 PM
Apr 2016

And you don't have to do the Casino thing. When the temp hits 100,we go north for a few days and then return. Couple of hundred miles north and 29 degrees cooler.

2naSalit

(86,748 posts)
6. Funny
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:27 PM
Apr 2016

Vegas never really appealed to me, used to get through it as quickly as possible, but then in a semi any city you're passing through turns into an obstacle to be overcome. Don't recall ever having deliveries there.

The heat is way too much for me. I was in a city up here in Montana last week where it almost hit 70 and I almost got heat exhaustion! I lived in the Anza Borrego desert for a summer, only because I was homeless and some friends let me camp out in their yard, and that was the end of my heat tolerance. I can take -50F but not +70 and hotter. Once I managed to migrate north that was it for me.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. Lived in North Western Wisconsin and in
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:44 PM
Apr 2016

Minnesota for 65 years. Know the -50 all to well. We adapted to the Desert our first year and now it is not a big deal.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
8. It's a high percentage here in Albuquerque too
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:51 PM
Apr 2016

Obama's humanitarian ideals focus on family, instead of sexual identity, in this decision. I believe that Obama deserves the Noble Peace Prize.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. You wouldn't think so via the Rethugs.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 05:42 PM
Apr 2016

We older folks remember our Grand Parents being right of the boat so to speak. And they had to learn the language and made sure their children made it to school much like the new immigrants of today. And they came here because they were hungry and needed a chance.

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