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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,192 posts)
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 07:48 PM Apr 2016

Cultural Divide in the South Between Liberal Cities and Their States

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JACKSON, Miss. — It was not that long ago that Victoria Fortenberry figured she would mark her 18th birthday by getting on a bus and getting out of Mississippi. But here she was, blue-haired, tattooed and 19 years old, singing at a party for a new line of craft beer to a crowd that included her girlfriend.

Ms. Fortenberry came here to attend a Christian college and found a place where she could be unashamedly Southern and openly gay in a way not possible in her conservative suburban hometown, or even in the Jackson of a decade ago. And so: “At some point,” she said, “I decided I won’t just leave.”

Jackson may not register nationally as an outpost of bohemianism like Austin or big city liberalism like Atlanta. But its city government, which is majority black and Democratic, refuses to fly the Confederate-themed state flag at municipal buildings, and this month voted unanimously to oppose a new state law that create special legal protections for opponents of same sex marriage. And it has a place for blue-haired singers — and their girlfriends.

Jackson is among a group of Southern cities from Dallas to Durham, N.C., where the digital commons, economic growth and a rising cohort of millennials have helped remake the culture. Many of these cities have found themselves increasingly at odds with their states, and here in a region that remains the most conservative in the country, the conflicts are growing more frequent and particularly tough.

Fights are raging over gay rights here and in North Carolina, where a new law limits transgender bathroom access and pre-empts local governments from passing their own anti-discrimination ordinances. The resistance has been particularly fierce in North Carolina, where companies have called off expansion plans and Ringo Starr and Bruce Springsteen have canceled concerts.

The potential consequences of these boycotts point up the complications, though: in a South dominated by the politics of rural and suburban conservatives, a canceled rock concert or technology project is likely to punish the places that oppose the legislation, and have little effect on the areas that support it.

“We’ve got this divide,” said Ferrel Guillory, the director of the Program on Public Life at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. “The divide between the cultural conservatism of older suburbs and older rural areas, and these new, thriving, modern economy, diverse cities.”


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Cultural Divide in the South Between Liberal Cities and Their States (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 OP
I'm bumping this because I don't want to see it sink in GD. kentauros Apr 2016 #1
Interesting. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #2
Edit the OP, you've cut and pasted twice. kwassa Apr 2016 #3
Done, thanks Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #4
That's pretty much the entire country, even blue states. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #5
The cities are the income generators for these states. scarletlib Apr 2016 #6

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
1. I'm bumping this because I don't want to see it sink in GD.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 08:22 PM
Apr 2016

After all the arguments had in GD every time some stupid teabagger wants to secede, this story is a good reason why no liberal should ever support such an opinion.

Also, given just how Internet-connected such places have become, why not spread that to the suburbs and small towns? Get them as interconnected with municipal Internet (or Google, if they would even consider such an idea) and let's transform the rural areas to at least purple waves of voters

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
2. Interesting.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 08:49 PM
Apr 2016

A lot of states have this dynamic, where there are one or two liberal cities/big towns and a couple college/coastal areas that are also liberal, and the rest of the state is rural rightwing (like my state Oregon), but it must be even more of a stark contrast in the South.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
3. Edit the OP, you've cut and pasted twice.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 09:30 PM
Apr 2016

Otherwise, very interesting article. Interesting demographic changes.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
5. That's pretty much the entire country, even blue states.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 09:39 PM
Apr 2016

Look at Illinois. California. New York.

Hell, even here in Oregon, the red rural areas are pretty red, and rural.

Difference is, there are enough progressives in states like this so that we have statewide laws like legal cannabis, or the country's first openly bisexual governor.

The states where the right-wingers control the statehouse do stuff like try and outlaw dildoes and porn, and pass anti-choice and anti-LGBT laws that still affect the people in the supposedly progressive enclaves.

scarletlib

(3,418 posts)
6. The cities are the income generators for these states.
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 08:47 AM
Apr 2016

Yes, the liberal residents are being hurt by the loss of business from canceled concerts, conventions, etc. However, the effect goes beyond the city. The businesses in the cities generate the taxes to support the rest of the state. I know this is true in Florida where Miami-Dade, West Palm Beach, Orlando, Tampa generate the taxes to support the state. In Florida we have beaches and tourism throughout the state but still the cities do the big job of bringing in the money. I can suggest that in other states with large rural populations and lacking Florida's natural resource of beaches and sunshine that the cities play an even larger role in support of the whole state.

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