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Baitball Blogger

(46,742 posts)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:17 AM Jun 2012

Statistics show voter fraud is a rare occurrence in Florida



TALLAHASSEE — Gov. Rick Scott and his Department of State have been talking about voter fraud in Florida since 2011, shortly after Scott took office.

"We need to have fair elections," Scott said Monday, justifying the identification of more than 2,600 "noncitizens" that the state recently urged county supervisors of elections to purge from the voter rolls. That followed a 2011 legislative rewrite of the election law, again in the name of preventing fraud.

"When you go out to vote, you want to make sure that the other individuals that are voting have a right to vote," Scott added.

But notwithstanding the concerns of Scott and Republican legislators, state records show that voter fraud simply hasn't been a problem for the past decade.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/fl-voter-fraud-fact-check-20120605,0,4866979.story

We all know the next move for Republicans is voting in two different states. Why don't we start by checking to see if retirees in North Carolina and Florida are voting in their "home" states as well as their snowbird states?
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Statistics show voter fraud is a rare occurrence in Florida (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 OP
my friend who is visiting from florida was insisting that all the ejpoeta Jun 2012 #1
Perhaps someone can explain something to me: Indydem Jun 2012 #2
"why don't local and state Democratic parties spend the money" ... zbdent Jun 2012 #5
Then use the bill itself. Indydem Jun 2012 #8
Go after the absentee ballots. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #3
Voter Fraud is just a rational for Jim Crow Laws Johonny Jun 2012 #4
K & R Scurrilous Jun 2012 #6
SO. What "problem" are they trying to fix, since we know there ISN'T a problem? ProfessionalLeftist Jun 2012 #7

ejpoeta

(8,933 posts)
1. my friend who is visiting from florida was insisting that all the
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:18 AM
Jun 2012

illegals in florida are voting. I said that it is not true. He loves the idea of voter id laws. He sure thinks there is a problem.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
2. Perhaps someone can explain something to me:
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:28 AM
Jun 2012

All of the evidence suggests that voter fraud really doesn't exist.

Republicans support voter ID and have convinced the public that voter fraud DOES exist and needs to be stopped. Voter ID consistently polls with a strong majority support in each poll (up to 80% in one poll I saw).

Instead of fighting a popular issue and wasting a ton of money on campaigning against these initiatives, why don't local and state Democratic parties spend the money instead on making sure that their constituents can get their documentation, and thus their IDs?

If the public wants an iron clad voting process, then why don't we support than and make arrangements in the bills or through our paty mechanism to assure that those who are able to vote, can?

We spend millions of dollars annually on GOTV, we bus people to the polling place. We offer rides. We make sure that our voters make it to the polls, but to give an 89 year old woman a ride to the next town to get her birth certificate (and perhaps pay for said birth certificate) is too much? This boggles my mind.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
5. "why don't local and state Democratic parties spend the money" ...
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:30 PM
Jun 2012

because the "liberally-biased media" then goes on and on about how the Dems are bribing people.

It's been done.

There have been situations where Dems drove people to the polls who then voted REPUBLICAN, and yet the charges of bribery go out (tried in the media ... when evidence shows otherwise, no "effect&quot .

Lawsuits not long ago where Dems were (allegedly) giving out sandwiches ... but when Rmoney's people handed out sandwiches, no action.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
8. Then use the bill itself.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 02:10 PM
Jun 2012

Make collecting critical paperwork and the IDs themselves free. Place allowances in the bill to allow assistance by parties to get the IDs. I just find it amazing that we keep fighting this ID thing rather than embrace it and make it work FOR us.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
3. Go after the absentee ballots.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:29 AM
Jun 2012

Every time the Rs bring up the subject of voter fraud at the polls, cite statistics proving there is far greater fraud with absentee ballots and demand they be included in the crackdown of "voter fraud". For instance, Dems can propose that all absentee ballots be notarized, with photo ID shown to the notary.

Johonny

(20,854 posts)
4. Voter Fraud is just a rational for Jim Crow Laws
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:57 AM
Jun 2012

Scott time and time again shows he doesn't care what really is happening, he just cares about his agenda. Thus it doesn't matter if drug testing people is proven affective it matters you funnel money to drug testing companies. It doesn't matter if voter fraud is really changing election results, it matters that you prevent the right people from voting in the first place.

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
7. SO. What "problem" are they trying to fix, since we know there ISN'T a problem?
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:45 PM
Jun 2012

The "problem" of people voting DEMOCRATIC, of course.

And they can't SAY that, so they use this "voter fraud" bullshit as an excuse to keep eligible DEMOCRATS from voting.

It's pure pretentious horse crap. And people buy into it. GOD almighty, we have some stupid people in this country. Embarrassingly stupid.

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