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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy governor, Jerry Brown...
...in 1992:
http://www.c-span.org/video/?25325-1/jerry-brown-editorial-meeting-new-york-post
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MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I've finished watching this. I want to thank you for the rearview mirror of Jerry Brown. As I recall, it was after Brown was no longer in the race that I searched frantically for someone who could come close to him. Then, I divested to Ross Perot.
What strikes me particularly in this interview (A MUST FOR EVERYONE TO WATCH IN ITS ENTIRELY), is how strenuously the press challenged Brown's astute observations on what was happening to America. (e.g.,"How are you going to use the federal government to keep GM in Tarrytown?" . It was a departure moment for recognizing where we were ECONOMICALLY with the middle and working class, and what was happening to Flint, MI... In fact, the "great evil" happening to America, including the ominous path we were headed. Less, or nothing was attributed to the environment, but that is to be expected. I remember these times after Bush I got us into the Persion Gulf moments with Saddam Hussain in Kuwait. He was committed from that run for the presidency to building a "political movement" to basically take us on track to where Bernie Sanders is NOW leading.
He also admitted that the longer you are in politics, the more likely you are to depart from the things he THEN saw as the best direction to our future reversal of our corrupt political system. I've never seen a better interview to express those values.
BY THE WAY... Did you listen to the CSPAN commentator at the end? They said at the conclusion of this interview, the front-runner Democratic Bill Clinton had the same meeting, but didn't allow the C-SPAN cameras to film.
That would have pointed to some things way back. I never supported Clinton the first time, but sure did Perot.
YvonneCa
(10,117 posts)...thoughtful comment.
I saw this on CSpan3 this morning and was completely blown away by how timely his comments on the issues were back in 1992. CSpan is regularly running restrospectives on presidential races and many are quite enlightening. I agree with you about this being the best interview to clarify the progressive movement.
I did not see the very end about President Clinton. I may watch it again and look for that.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)right and left leaders Ross Perot and Bernie Sanders is striking, so it's not surprising that many ex- Perot followers would like Bernie. They both have strong authoritarian strains and deliver anti-establishment messages in clear, short phrases with tremendous conviction.
They're both sort of crotchety types, too, though does anyone think that's a significant draw? A cranky counterpart to Reagan's phony warm fuzzies? Reagan was our oldest candidate until these two came along.
Interestingly, they both planned secretly to run for president for years before the time came. Almost all contenders do, of course, but what these two have in common is that they were both long-time business and government establishment insiders posturing as grass-rootsy outsiders seemingly popping up out of nowhere, responding to a new awareness that my nation needs me.
"It's easy, folks. Open the hood, fix the problem, close the hood. Case closed!" Ah, nostalgia. Younger "folk" would obviously have to actually hear the conviction to understand the magnetism.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)If you're going to wait to pounce on someone, at least compare apples to apples instead of shoveling the vast quantity of horse shit you just did on my post.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)friend of ours you reminded me of. I wrote to ask who he supports (he knows I'm a strong liberal). He, yes, does like Bernie, but chose Trump for a while and now doesn't know what to do. He wants someone who will make America great again. We have that in common.
You know, another similarity between Perot and Sanders, beyond their many intersecting anti-establishment rallying cries, is that both made many promises to the voters they couldn't possibly fulfill.
My thoughts, really, now that I think about it, are more about the people they draw than about them. You see, I disliked so much that Perot promised he'd fix and liked so much that he said he'd do, and the exact same for Bernie -- but I never believed either could, or in some cases would, come through.
I was also a Jerry Brown supporter. A real iconoclaust who not only believed in what I did but was determined to make great changes. Of course, neither of us knew back then, for instance, that when he emptied the horror houses we called mental hospitals onto the streets, instead of being shamed into acting responsibly, the people of California would choose to leave them there, until they became too numerous to ignore and we started keeping them in prisons, where of course their struggles for survival continue -- until they don't.
Solutions don't just have to be implemented, they have to work.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Time to go play with somebody else.
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)transcript to read, but I'm an (ex-) Californian. Jerry Brown has always been a policy wonk, like Hillary Clinton, amaf, so I'm sure he was able to answer the questions at length.
YvonneCa
(10,117 posts)...for you , with no luck. Ghe scrolling one at the bottom of the page is awful.
I hope you were able to see the video. Brown is discussing many of today's progressive issues back in 1992 when he ran for President. It's amazing how much has NOT changed.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)just how powerful the ultra-right forces against progressivism and government itself are.
Very sad, though. And shaming. We could be so fine in comparison, so proud to be Americans and able to show other peoples in other places that it can be done. Instead, others are showing us.
YvonneCa
(10,117 posts)...this is on again today at 3:30 pm PDT.