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trumad

(41,692 posts)
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:38 AM Apr 2016

Who leaves the messiest bathroom---Men or Women?

I have 3 millennial kids/adults. 1 Girl---two boys.

It's a close call. The boys---just nasty. They couldn't hit the side of the barn if they were leaning on it. I need a hazmat suit to clean their bathroom.

My Girl. Clutter---makeup, hair---she sheds like a Cocker Spaniel! No room at all on the sink counter.

Oh and don't get me started about leaving clothes and towels on the floor. Equal opportunity offenders there.

I say it's a tie.



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Who leaves the messiest bathroom---Men or Women? (Original Post) trumad Apr 2016 OP
From my experience cleaning retail restrooms, the women are worse. Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #1
+1 flying rabbit Apr 2016 #9
+1 Places I worked, men's room just needed quick sweep & spot mop. Women's Skeeter Barnes Apr 2016 #14
Yeah, flamin lib Apr 2016 #17
Yeah, I have seen that in Vegetable sheds and some public restrooms. Jim Beard Apr 2016 #40
In some places the septic systems won't handle TP, that's why. nt bemildred Apr 2016 #58
I get that Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #68
Yeah, but sometimes they don't speak the language and want to be polite. bemildred Apr 2016 #71
Sewer piping can be too small BadgerKid Apr 2016 #70
I worked at a state park in college doing janitorial work Drahthaardogs Apr 2016 #67
I don't think it is a gender-linked trait. bemildred Apr 2016 #2
This is the correct answer. panader0 Apr 2016 #23
Yep. Scurrilous Apr 2016 #35
Nope nichomachus Apr 2016 #57
Women have to put up with long lines and limited seating and don't have the option to use the sinks. bemildred Apr 2016 #59
I used to clean, but I've graduated nichomachus Apr 2016 #60
You're probably right about that too. bemildred Apr 2016 #62
If you talk to folks who do cleaning professionally for a living, they'll likely tell you that... stone space Apr 2016 #3
Teach the boys to sit when they pee... Cooley Hurd Apr 2016 #4
Life just ain't worth living if we can't stand while peeing The Second Stone Apr 2016 #19
If the guys sit when they pee meow2u3 Apr 2016 #24
They have to learn to 'tuck it', and not have it hanging over the front of the seat :D Blaukraut Apr 2016 #47
That water is really cold! Jim Beard Apr 2016 #72
Deep, too. Iggo Apr 2016 #75
That's against the law in some states. maveric Apr 2016 #34
Have women were dresses so the can stand to pee. Jim Beard Apr 2016 #41
You have to consider 2naSalit Apr 2016 #64
Based on my time as a McDonald's employee NobodyHere Apr 2016 #5
my kid in same situation would agree dembotoz Apr 2016 #46
I worked one summer, during my high school years Hayduke Bomgarte Apr 2016 #6
In a bar, the winner is women by a mile Lulu Belle Apr 2016 #7
My cat does Generic Brad Apr 2016 #8
My cats are a mixed bag on litter issues meow2u3 Apr 2016 #25
Women by a landslide. linuxman Apr 2016 #10
'hover': ronnie624 Apr 2016 #11
This! ^^^ Blaukraut Apr 2016 #50
....and we get yelled at for leaving the toliet seat up...nt Xolodno Apr 2016 #69
. Glassunion Apr 2016 #74
I have 3 as well - 2 girls and a boy GreenEyedLefty Apr 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author CrispyQ Apr 2016 #30
I'm scrupulous about using the toilet brush and air-freshener when called for. Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #13
Parents. HassleCat Apr 2016 #15
I've seen both being equal opportunity slobs, I don't think it's a gender thing! I knew underahedgerow Apr 2016 #16
THEY need to clean their own bathrooms, Mom. Laffy Kat Apr 2016 #18
Having been a plumber for years, they can both be just as messy or just as clean. Kaleva Apr 2016 #20
But who CLOGS more plumbing? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2016 #39
Little kids do. Kaleva Apr 2016 #51
Dunno. Rex Apr 2016 #21
My wife told me many nasty stories of the ladies rooms. karadax Apr 2016 #22
It's the strangest thing... Phentex Apr 2016 #26
I think it is the thing "The company pays people to pickup after me" type attitude. LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #31
I will do my part as long as they supply soap, hand towels and put the trash Jim Beard Apr 2016 #73
When I was working, I was friends with the cleanup people. One day I mentioned that I was sorry LiberalArkie Apr 2016 #27
Between my bathroom and the one the men use at home... Phentex Apr 2016 #28
there is home and there is out in say a bar. hollysmom Apr 2016 #29
When I was a janitor the women's rooms were always the worst. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #32
You're talking about kids. They're an entirely different species. notadmblnd Apr 2016 #33
Cindy McCain. Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #36
food places Wolverine23 Apr 2016 #37
at home men are worse. but i can see women's restrooms being worse in restaurants JI7 Apr 2016 #38
I used to be a janitor in my past life, cleaning university rest rooms... MrScorpio Apr 2016 #42
The one who leaves a puddle in front of the bowl. rug Apr 2016 #43
In the private school I night-janitored at while in college, the girls were messier. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2016 #44
They each contribute something to the pig sty Blaukraut Apr 2016 #45
And for a really gross story. .. kwassa Apr 2016 #48
Yup. Same thing happened when I was still working in retail. Blaukraut Apr 2016 #52
back in high school, i worked a summer job as a janitor in a public library 0rganism Apr 2016 #49
I think home vs public makes a difference too laundry_queen Apr 2016 #53
Kinda lucky in this country.... Jim Beard Apr 2016 #54
I say if they're over 10, they can start cleaning their own bathrooms to your specifications Warpy Apr 2016 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author imari362 Apr 2016 #56
I blame the parents anigbrowl Apr 2016 #61
My daughter is a huge bathroom slob. My son just leaves toys in the tub. Codeine Apr 2016 #63
To be honest 2naSalit Apr 2016 #65
I think you need to seperate this into 2 categories-private and public bathrooms. Kaleva Apr 2016 #66
OK I just learned something WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #76
I cleaned bathrooms in a Department store CanonRay Apr 2016 #77

Skeeter Barnes

(994 posts)
14. +1 Places I worked, men's room just needed quick sweep & spot mop. Women's
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:05 AM
Apr 2016

room looked like a tornado touched down.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
17. Yeah,
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:32 AM
Apr 2016

and what's up with putting soiled toilet paper in the trash can or on the floor beside the toilet?

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
68. I get that
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 06:49 PM
Apr 2016

Ive been to China and places where you dont flush it, but if that person brought it up I would assume its somewhere where it can be flushed, otherrwise it wouldnt have been brought up.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
71. Yeah, but sometimes they don't speak the language and want to be polite.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:56 PM
Apr 2016

So they do what's polite where they come from.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
67. I worked at a state park in college doing janitorial work
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 06:21 PM
Apr 2016

mostly chopping wood, cleaning bathrooms, etc. Women's were disgusting. We used to paper, scissors, rock who cleaned the women's restroom that day.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
57. Nope
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:04 PM
Apr 2016

As someone who once cleaned public restrooms, women are the worst. Men have poor aim and may drop some paper towels on the floor.

Women, on the other hand, leave litter everywhere. They write on the mirrors with lipstick. They leave makeup everywhere. It's a disaster zone.

I think one reason is that men go to the restroom, do their business, and leave. They normally don't even talk to each other. Women go in groups and socialize, reapply makeup (to themselves, the walls, and the mirrors).

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
59. Women have to put up with long lines and limited seating and don't have the option to use the sinks.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:23 PM
Apr 2016

Or a tree. (OK, I have seen women use a tree, but it's not dignified, like a man, standing alert in the sunset, member extended into the breeze, letting fly in freedom.)

It's much simpler for a guy. Not that much danger of fucking up a nylon at an important moment for us, you whip it out and point it away from you and you're good. Since you clean restrooms you must see that a lot.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
60. I used to clean, but I've graduated
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:26 PM
Apr 2016

You're rigtht about men, but in there, it's a quick swish and a mop. All done.

Not so in the ladies'.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
62. You're probably right about that too.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:34 PM
Apr 2016

I did janitor and floor crew for a couple years in my youth, so I know what you mean, I just think they have reasons.

It's the same with me and my wife, my bathroom is much simpler than hers. But a lot of that is because I don't need it to be complicated.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
3. If you talk to folks who do cleaning professionally for a living, they'll likely tell you that...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:44 AM
Apr 2016

...it depends on the gender ratio at the workplace in question.

A workplace with lots of men will have messier men's rooms, and a workplace with lots of women will have messier women's rooms.



 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
19. Life just ain't worth living if we can't stand while peeing
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:27 PM
Apr 2016

(cept when we have to pee in the middle of the night. Then falling asleep while sitting down peeing is one of life's great pleasures. Like standing up peeing. Need to get my prostate checked again.)

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
24. If the guys sit when they pee
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:41 PM
Apr 2016

the pee will end up on the floor anyhow, only farther away from the bowl.

2naSalit

(86,634 posts)
64. You have to consider
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:40 PM
Apr 2016

that women have different nozzles that don't actually work like a guy's nozzle, it's not the attire as much as the plumbing.

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
6. I worked one summer, during my high school years
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:46 AM
Apr 2016

On a crew that cleaned a movie theater every night after closing. The ladies restroom was always more disgusting and filthy than the mens.

Lulu Belle

(70 posts)
7. In a bar, the winner is women by a mile
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:48 AM
Apr 2016

When I worked in bars during college, at the end of the night, we had to check all the bathrooms to make sure that everyone had left.
The ladies room was always far nastier than the men's.

I took a tour of a women's correctional institution once- the women there were worse than the men at the facility I worked at.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
8. My cat does
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 10:55 AM
Apr 2016

She never cleans up after herself. She drags litter all over the floor. She misses the box often (she is very old and the poor girl just can't make it to her box despite trying). Plus, she has never once lifted a paw to clean the plumbing fixtures.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
25. My cats are a mixed bag on litter issues
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:43 PM
Apr 2016

Ruby is neat--to the point of wiping her paws on the rim of the litterbox. Max, on the other hand, is a dirtball; he kicks litter out of the box, making me have to sweep and vacuum the surrounding area. BTA, he's a large cat who weighs 20 pounds.

Response to GreenEyedLefty (Reply #12)

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
16. I've seen both being equal opportunity slobs, I don't think it's a gender thing! I knew
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:26 AM
Apr 2016

a woman once who managed to miss the toilet. I STILL don't know how she managed that. Don't want to know, but more men are guilty of missing the toilet than women, we can all agree.

Women's public bathrooms are messier because we use more products. We're more likely to wash our hands, the trash bins are more likely to be full of paper towels and unemptied; the little mini trashcans in the stalls for sanitary products are more likely to be full or broken or just missing. We're more likely to use soap and splash everything everywhere because the sinks are not well maintained.

Men.... apparently don't wash their hands after a wee or else their trash bins would be just as full, if not more so, than the women's rooms.

Laffy Kat

(16,381 posts)
18. THEY need to clean their own bathrooms, Mom.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 11:50 AM
Apr 2016

I know it's tempting to just do it, but I always made my boys clean their own. Set consequences.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,328 posts)
39. But who CLOGS more plumbing?
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:46 PM
Apr 2016

We had to have our building main line rodded. The guy was working by himself so I helped him carry the big rodder down the stairs.

He started pulling "blockage" out and said "oh look, a mouse" and I said "a mouse?" and he said "no, it's not a mouse"

We had to send a memo out.

Kaleva

(36,305 posts)
51. Little kids do.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:49 PM
Apr 2016

Toys, clothing, baby shoes, fish, gravel and the list goes on. One little girl flushed a box of her mother's tampons down the toilet.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
21. Dunno.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:33 PM
Apr 2016

Don't have kids. When I was married, I would say neither of us left a messy bathroom. Wasn't much clutter so I don't think we count. I would say in my lifetime (living with male roomies), I have seen guys trash the bathroom and expect the next person to come along and clean it up!

karadax

(284 posts)
22. My wife told me many nasty stories of the ladies rooms.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 12:40 PM
Apr 2016

They all center around not wanting to sit down. Instead, they squat and all kinds of bad things happen.

I do wonder if the long lines in the women's rooms can be correlated to bathroom cleanliness or lack thereof.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
26. It's the strangest thing...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:54 PM
Apr 2016

at work, I am always picking up pieces of toilet paper that I think someone used to cover the seat but then just let slide off. I flush toilets that don't get flushed. I wipe off the counter where people have dropped soap all over.

But one of the funniest things is when paper towels will be falling out of the trash or lying just on the floor in front of the bin. I just go and push them all down into the bag and viola! There's then more room to put in the used paper towels. I cannot imagine just dropping it on the floor and walking out the door.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
27. When I was working, I was friends with the cleanup people. One day I mentioned that I was sorry
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:56 PM
Apr 2016

for the way all is guys left the restrooms. She told me that the mens rooms were like surgical rooms compared to the way the women left the womens rest rooms.

It was funny when the company converted the restrooms on the first floor to unisex restrooms. The cleanup lady said those were the cleanest on the campus.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
28. Between my bathroom and the one the men use at home...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:57 PM
Apr 2016

mine is always messier. But it's not dirtier. I have stuff all over the counter and often on the floor but I don't have a constant pee smell around or on the toilet. They do clean their bathroom more often than I do and I shed as well, so in general, their bathroom is cleaner.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
29. there is home and there is out in say a bar.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:57 PM
Apr 2016

At home, guys tend to leave it messier because Mom ill clean it up, In bars however, I find that the women's rest room generally was messier than the men's (sometimes you just can't wait!!!) I found womans bathrooms messier which might be because it is not cleaned as much? or just the drunk women have less bladder control or a harder time not sitting on a messy toilet? the toilets seem to overflow a lot. Yet, I have been in bars (in my youth) where men broke the sinks off the wall 3 times. A whole different kind of mess.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
33. You're talking about kids. They're an entirely different species.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 01:59 PM
Apr 2016

Unless you teach your boys how much more relaxing it is to pee sitting down, you're going to have toilet issues. There will be pee on the rims, running down the outside of the bowl and on the walls. Not to mention the dirty hand prints on the wall above the toilet from them copping a lean there because it's just so exhausting for them to stand up straight when peeing.

Girls, if they don't sit properly on the toilet, they get pee and other female body emissions under the rim of the seat leaving the toilet just as nasty as any boy ever would.

Wolverine23

(22 posts)
37. food places
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:29 PM
Apr 2016

From hearing other people's experiences at restaurants...women by a mile. I never would've imagined.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
38. at home men are worse. but i can see women's restrooms being worse in restaurants
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 03:32 PM
Apr 2016

And other places open to the public.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
42. I used to be a janitor in my past life, cleaning university rest rooms...
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:10 PM
Apr 2016

The woman's bathrooms weren't all that bad.

The men's bathrooms, however, all looked like Mogadishu after the collapse of Somalia.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,180 posts)
44. In the private school I night-janitored at while in college, the girls were messier.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:23 PM
Apr 2016

But what I remember most was the graffiti. Sure, the boy's bathrooms had the traditional collection of limericks and hastily-drawn pictures of Kilroy with fuzzy eyeballs, but the girl's bathrooms -- they were CREATIVE! (And more graphic, too!)

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
45. They each contribute something to the pig sty
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:44 PM
Apr 2016

Men usually urinate on the toilet seat, or spray the walls and floor. In public restrooms women do the same thing, because they won't sit on the seat, and can't aim very well while squatting three inches above the toilet, clutching any and all clothing (so it won't touch the toilet) and the door handle (so they won't fall over).

At home, it's all about expectations. Men can sit on the toilet. And if they do, the women can as well, without having to worry about either 1. sitting in urine spots or 2. sitting on cold porcelain because the male forgot to put the seat back down.

The sink and tub area are an entirely different situation. There are no gender differences, imo. Pigs come in all genders. Toothpaste spots on mirror and sink, soap scum in tub, etc. My husband is immaculate when it comes to clutter in the bathroom, but he doesn't notice dirt. I'm the opposite. Our daughters inherited traits from both of us. One of them got both good traits, the other both bad traits. So one of them is an utter slob in the bathroom (and elsewhere) while the other keeps a perfectly clean and neat house, like a museum.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
48. And for a really gross story. ..
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:47 PM
Apr 2016

I worked in a department store where women were using changing rooms as toilets. There were beautiful restrooms in the back of the store, maybe 100 feet away. Too far to walk, I guess.

The store closed about two-thirds of the changing rooms.

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
52. Yup. Same thing happened when I was still working in retail.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:53 PM
Apr 2016

Sometimes they'd just sit on the bench and let it flow, and other times, they'd 'go' in a pile of brand new clothes that were tossed into a pile on the floor. Not to mention the countless crappy diapers.

0rganism

(23,955 posts)
49. back in high school, i worked a summer job as a janitor in a public library
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:48 PM
Apr 2016

i can tell you from sad experience that the women's bathroom was far far worse

not even close

just awful ... i don't want to talk about it anymore.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
53. I think home vs public makes a difference too
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:54 PM
Apr 2016

I notice a few janitors saying women's bathrooms are worse but IMO, that's because they are busier. We've all seen the line ups at the women's bathrooms while the men's looks like a ghost town. Many building planners just don't take into account the longer time it takes women to 'go', or that women are often the ones taking the children, or that they likely have to go more often than men.

I used to clean hotel rooms and found the men far messier overall, pee around the seat, stubble all over the sink.

However, bathrooms where women who don't know how to dispose of menstrual products properly can be super nasty. Or women who hover - c'mon please. Toilet seats are actually NOT that dirty. Until you hovered and splashed pee everywhere anyway. ew.

I already posted in the other thread about the situation at my workplace - in that case there is no disputing it's the men who leave the messiest bathroom. Interesting to note that the main culprits are single bachelors, while the ones that don't leave messes are married. Maybe that has something to do with it.

My ex was adamant that men's public washrooms were nastier and he used to work in a gas station and clean both. I used to work in a restaurant/bar where I opened on the weekends and one of my duties was cleaning both bathrooms from the night before. I'd say the men's was worse. Women's might have an unflushed toilet, or some lipstick on the mirror, or the menstrual product bin might be overflowing, but the men's would have feces smeared on the wall or seat or there would be puke on the floor...just ew. When I worked at the aforementioned hotel I sometimes had to clean the public bathrooms and didn't notice a difference, but they weren't very busy.

As I said though, in some venues where there is a shortage of women's bathrooms, those could get dirty in a hurry with the high traffic.

I have 4 daughters and the hair thing...yikes. I agree there. But talking to my friend who has 4 boys...I'll take the hair over wiping piss up every day. Although I really don't understand why people don't teach their boys to aim or clean up after themselves. My mom never would have put up with that. My dad and brother NEVER left pee anywhere, there would've been hell to pay for sure. She was a clean freak and didn't put up with that behavior. I make my girls clean up their hair too. And they clean their own bathroom, thank goodness.

Warpy

(111,266 posts)
55. I say if they're over 10, they can start cleaning their own bathrooms to your specifications
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 04:56 PM
Apr 2016

I've always said being on hands and knees cleaning around the toilet will improve any male's aim considerably.

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Codeine

(25,586 posts)
63. My daughter is a huge bathroom slob. My son just leaves toys in the tub.
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:35 PM
Apr 2016

She gets toothpaste everywhere, leaves hair on every conceivable surface, can't use a hand towel without leaving it on the counter or the floor, and hasn't taken a bath towel out of her room without being told once in her entire life.

With all that, a handful of Gotham's Rogue's Gallery and The Goddamned Batman left in the bathtub seems minor.

2naSalit

(86,634 posts)
65. To be honest
Sun Apr 10, 2016, 05:52 PM
Apr 2016

I have seen the worst of both gendered bathroom types. But I will tell you that working and living in a tourism oriented location gives one a perspective that goes beyond your post's realm a bit...

In public bathrooms you will find that by far, male and female, the worst is entering a public bathroom after a busload of Asians have been through. Many come from places where toilets just don't exist and they have no idea what they are or how to use them because they are accustomed to a hole in the floor. So how do they approach this unusual fixture in the stall? They stand on the seat and let 'er rip, all over everything else. solids and fluids. Not sure if they get what the paper is about either. Both government and private bathrooms in my area now are starting to post nomenclature in the stalls with instructions on how to use a toilet. I kid you not. It really sucks to have to go really bad and finally find a bathroom only to discover that you can't use it due to scary biohazard concerns.

And if you go to a National Park for the centennial this year, just remember that last year was a record-breaker in human density and about a third were from China. This year, according to YNP projections, there will be another additional 600,000 more coming from China alone. The locals around here are calling it the Asian invasion... not just because of all the tourists but many Chinese are starting to buy up everything in sight, cash in fist. I don't plan on going anywhere near a public bathroom until late November at least.

CanonRay

(14,103 posts)
77. I cleaned bathrooms in a Department store
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:47 AM
Apr 2016

Women are slobs in public restrooms. Hands down. They may keep the neatest home on the planet, especially compared to men, but when it comes to a public washroom, it was totally clear to me from my work experience. I just dreaded going into the women's restrooms.

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