NC bathroom obssessed Republicans BUSTED by Fact checking

[mnhtnbb]

The BS and Lies brigade of Republicans-- who rushed through HB 2 in North Carolina on the pretense of needing
to protect women and children from male perverts who would invade bathrooms and locker
rooms posing as trans women--have been busted for pushing unfounded fears.

Politifact, in partnership with The News&Observer, did a fact check. Here's what they found:

The entire state of Maryland and some of the largest cities in the country, including New York City, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Seattle and Austin, Texas, have rules banning discrimination against transgender people in public accommodation, including bathrooms. More than 200 cities and counties also ban workplace discrimination against transgender people.

A dozen state public school systems and dozens of college campuses also have ordinances banning discrimination against transgender people, including in bathrooms.


After spending hours combing through conservative blogs and family values websites dedicated to news about transgender bathroom ordinances, we were able to confirm three cases in the United States in the last 17 years in which a biological male was convicted of a crime that involved him in a women’s bathroom or locker room and dressed as a woman.

It’s unclear if any of the three identified as transgender women, but none of those cases happened in cities where it would’ve been legal for a transgender woman to use the women’s room anyway. And none involved sexual assault or rape.


We haven’t found any instances of criminals convicted of using transgender protections as cover in the United States. Neither have any left-wing groups or right-wing groups.

http://www.politifact.com/north-carolina/statements/2016/apr/01/chris-sgro/equality-nc-director-no-public-safety-risks-cities/


http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article70381272.html#storylink=hpdigest

[DetlefK]

1. Facts don't matter in politics.

[mnhtnbb]

2. But it is helpful to be able to throw the fact checking back in their face

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in front of the media.

And at least we still have at least one newspaper in the state that is willing to do the investigative journalism
to dispute the Republican claim that danger lurks in the bathroom.

[TreasonousBastard]

5. Never forget the marvelous quote...

"My mind is made up. Don't confuse me with facts"

[meow2u3]

11. That describes the right to a T nt

[yardwork]

9. I had the same reaction. The governor didn't read the bill. Why would he read this?

Our only hope is that Democrats will be motivated to vote in November.

[Ilsa]

3. I have friends in NC that have bought into the fear.

I've tried rationalizing with them, even explaining that given our ages, we've all very likely shared a public bathroom with a transgendered person without realizing it, and that it doesn't take a dress for a man to walk into a bathroom to assault a woman. But they'd rather be afraid.

[mnhtnbb]

4. Send them the links to the fact check.

It's like believing in the boogeyman.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. Use emotions to reach irrational people. Call them "suckers". Shame them, gently.

When people are ruled by emotions, appeal to their emotions. Nobody likes to be called a sucker so they immediately want to know why so they can avoid it.

Ask them why they are participating in ever more laws, ever more fear-mongering. Ask them what happened to "the land of the free, the home of the brave"?

Ask them why they want more and more government interference in ordinary lives.

And show them this cartoon:

[cwydro]

14. I live in NC, and I'm very glad none of my friends feel that way.

That's too bad.

[Oneironaut]

7. With fearful rhetoric, facts take a back seat

The supporters of this moral panic don't care if it's true or not. They're afraid. No amount of reason will ever snap them out of it. They'll ignore facts that don't support their position, and desperately seek / twist anything to validate it.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. NC law will actually INCREASE the number of male-looking people in women's restrooms

www.patheos.com/blogs/todojustice/2016/03/26/the-threat-of-hate-in-north-carolina-wearenotthis/

NC Republicans are so stupid: This man is now required to use women's restrooms in North Carolina:

[paleotn]

10. Just like voter id....

...a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Just a pretense to be bigots and assholes.

[IronLionZion]

12. Would they change their tune when trans men show up in women's rooms?

Because that would be the law. And how would they enforce it?

I'd be more concerned with the fact that more US Senators have been arrested for sexual misconduct in restrooms.

Republicans have very dirty minds and an unhealthy obsession with sexual misconduct.

[yardwork]

13. No, unfortunately that won't help. It will ramp up the fear.

None of this is rational.

[Martin Eden]

15. That's Phase 2

Reaction to trans men using women's restrooms will kick start the campaign for more severe discriminatory laws.

[NCjack]

16. It's not about restrooms and genders. Its about GOTV of the RW in the June

congressional primary and the November GE, for the purpose of electing Repugs to defend against repeal of these garbage laws. An appeal to the SCOTUS will be required to dump these laws. Already its too late to save the NC congressional Republican ticket from being tilted to the extreme right.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

21. Bingo.

[Odin2005]

17. This is about making Trans folks terrified of using ANY public bathroom.

This is systematic repression and humiliation.

[One_Life_To_Give]

18. Ally McBeals all gender restroom is nearly 20 yrs old

Never-mind how you distinguish the East German Women's Olympic Team from the guys in the Mr Olympia contest.

This has bad gender policing written all over it. Won't be just our trans sisters that suddenly are fearfull of either outing themselves after years of stealth or being arrested. But many Cis women who by some busybodies standard, insufficiently female, will be swept up as well. I feel sorry for all those who will suffer from the efforts of such bigots.

[Gothmog]

19. The North Carolina bathroom law is really sad and wrong

[Johonny]

20. The violence against transgender people as opposed to committed by has a clear bias

in one direction and it isn't the direction that people that support this bill claim. I believe 1 in 4 will be the victim of assault in their lifetime.