so wtf did Grey Davis get recalled in Ca?

[K8-EEE]

Same reason Walker didn't probably because it's what the big money wanted. Seriously if you ask any random person why that recall took place they have no idea, something to do with an Enron scandall that wasn't his fault?

[JDPriestly]

1. Two terms of Schwarzenegger, and Californians learned.

We now have Jerry Brown again. A Democrat.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

3. Yet Wisconsin hasn't learned a thing. n/t

[Luminous Animal]

4. Who is on the austerity bandwagon.

[JDPriestly]

19. We will have a proposition to vote on in the fall that should raise the taxes of those

who have high incomes. Until then, austerity is Brown's only choice in California.

Schwarzenegger already borrowed far too much money.

[TheMightyFavog]

2. Because Davis had a Big name popular celebrity run against him?

I'm kind of thinking had Arnold not run, Davis might have survived.

[Luminous Animal]

6. Unlike Walker, Davis was not allowed to run.

Different state, different rules.

[LeftyMom]

13. If I'm remembering correctly, whether or not to recall and who the replacement would be were on the

same ballot. That put Dems in the odd position of both urging a no vote on the recall and having to field a candidate, which meant both efforts were halfassed.

[Luminous Animal]

16. Yep. And Davis was not allowed to be the Dem candidate. And both efforts were

woefully half-assed.

[K8-EEE]

8. as i remember the whole recall drive happened before arnie threw his hat in

Darryl issa was pissed cuz he was behind the recall and wanted to be the next gov

[Art_from_Ark]

9. But Issa had the backing of big Republican money

and that money had been courting Ahnold before he had officially thrown his hat in the ring. Issa was just a useful fool in the whole sordid affair.

http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/13-schwarzenegger-met-with-enrons-key-lay-before-the-california-recall/

[JDPriestly]

20. Yes. Schwarzenegger won on celebrity and name recognition.

In addition, Davis was a bit stiff and dull. Schwarzenegger accused Davis of deals with the prison guards' union. Of course Schwarzenegger was much worse than Davis would have been.

[Fire Walk With Me]

5. This is clearly answered in the documentary "Enron: Smartest guys in the room".

It's called "creating causes and conditions".

[RiffRandell]

24. That's exactly what I was discussing with my family last night.

I remember that disgusting message caught on tape with those 2 energy bigwigs laughing about the blackouts and how "Granny will pay."

[ManyShadesOf]

7. that was also the beginning

of "term limits," getting rid of "professional politicians" and putting business/CEOs in charge of policy making.

[David__77]

10. Because Democrats abandoned him.

I campaigned for him the year before his recall, and I recall that I never heard one Democratic volunteer say a single good thing about him. He only won because his opponent was terrible. When the recall happened, they got the black box "Arnold," so Davis stood no chance.

[Egalitarian Thug]

11. Davis blew it with his total collapse and surrender to Evergreen, Enron, et al. He only won

reelection because the republican party leadership put up the only man in California that was more loathed than Davis.

[Art_from_Ark]

17. Actually, Davis had called for a criminal investigation of Enron, et al

""Over the past two days Gov. Davis has been speaking out on the Enron scandal and calling for a criminal investigation," said Simon, meeting with reporters at a water conference in Monterey."

http://articles.latimes.com/2002/may/10/local/me-simon10

That's why they were so eager to push him out.

[Egalitarian Thug]

18. That was an attempt at damage control after the fact. During the robbery, he was advised to

exercise his Gubernatorial powers and fight it out in court later, instead he elected to pay the extortion with our money.

He only got the nomination because he was the incumbent. He's still a power in the party, but he lost his base with that move.

[Art_from_Ark]

22. I think it was a little more complicated than that

"For three years, California officials pleaded with federal regulators, President Bush, and Vice President Dick Cheney to provide the state with some relief from soaring wholesale power prices and investigate energy companies for allegedly manipulating the market. Bush and Cheney responded personally to Gray Davis’s pleas for help in May 2001 by saying the crisis was the result of California’s incomplete deregulation."

http://www.earthisland.org/journal/index.php/eij/article/california_energy_crisis_trial_looms/


After getting fed up with the attitudes of bu$h and Cheney, Davis decided to make good on his pledge to launch a criminal investigation about the phony energy crisis. And it's no secret that as soon as Ahnold was installed, he nixed the investigation.

[Egalitarian Thug]

23. There were other issues, but I'm apparently not being clear.

Every/Anything he did after the fact didn't matter because during the crisis he folded. He did just as I any good centrist would, and in the doing he lost the goodwill of his base.

[LeftyMom]

12. He was an awful campaigner with no personality.

Republicans hung the energy crisis and the 'car tax' (which was really just a temporary discount in licensing fees expiring as intended) around his neck and he didn't stop them.

California Republicans are fucking morons. Being outmaneuvered by them takes a remarkable lack of political skill.

[coalition_unwilling]

21. Davis had the personality of a wet washrag. And the Dem

who ran against Schwarzenegger in the replacement part of the recall election (Cruz Bustamente) came across as a machine hack, no match for the fasicst masculine pumped-up Mussolini-esque virility of Ah-nold. See how easy it is to avoid a Godwin's Law infraction while still evoking fascism in all its thuggish brutality?

[PatSeg]

14. I was new to California during the recall

and knew very little about Grey Davis, except that he wasn't exactly Mr. Personality. I couldn't find any valid reason for the recall at the time and most Californians I spoke to were embarrassed by the whole process. California became a total circus.

I remember thinking at the time, that unless someone had done something seriously wrong, he/she should be left to serve out their term and be removed by election. Buyer's remorse was hardly justification for a recall.

Wisconsin is a very different situation.

[Raine]

15. "pay to play" is one big reason

plus he was just unlikable and uninspiring, I didn't even like. I voted not to recall him but basically held my nose to vote that way.