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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe GOP is using Ted Cruz to defeat Donald Trump and will throw both of them overboard...
as soon as their convention arrives. Neither will have the necessary 1237 delegates to claim the nomination.
Ted Cruz is the only person that can stop Trump but he will have nowhere near the number of delegates needed and the GOP establishment hates his guts.
Just as Karl Rove stated yesterday, the Party will be looking for a new face. Both Ted and the Donald will be on the outside looking in.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)wins
kentuck
(111,110 posts)One thing for certain, the Trump supporters will be pissed off to the max.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)helps his brand and gives him something to do.
He literally despises the people who support him....They are poor, ignorant peasants (in his mind) and he despises them.
I wanna know who did his exams for him at university, him and George W. , neither are capable of degrees at their respective universities.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)and he will soon figure out, if not already, that the GOP is out to screw him.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Trump will do it anyways just for SPITE!
kentuck
(111,110 posts)I suspect Trump will flip the board and scream, "Why must I lose to these fools!"
B Calm
(28,762 posts)watching how this clown show ends.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)but looks like they are not going to allow that.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)MANative
(4,112 posts)of states, it could deprive the Dem candidate of the 270 electoral votes needed to win. The election then goes to the House of Representatives. If Republicans still control the House, whoever their little lap dog is would be "selected" rather than "elected."
kentuck
(111,110 posts)it would be difficult to see how the Democrat would not get a landslide with the Republicans splitting their votes??
MANative
(4,112 posts)cognizant of the possibility for enough shenanigans in states where there are likely to be voter suppression efforts to create "wins" for Repubs that aren't legitimate. GOTV will be even more critical than ever, I think.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)about voter suppression and shenanigans.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)GOP leaders have someone in mind to try and save this election.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Mitt Romney. Since they voted for him once, they would probably vote for him again?
B Calm
(28,762 posts)dembotoz
(16,825 posts)It's already in the plan.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)The third time will not be the charm for Mittens.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)and walk or vote for a third party, I'm good
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)The cruz delegates are as nutty as he is and they won't relent. If he could turn enough trump delegates, he could get the nomination.
People attacking trump and helping cruz are playing a dangerous game. cruz is by far the worst person running.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)and if the GOP tried to pull such a stunt, he would offer Cruz the VP spot and $10 million under the table to put their resources together. This is going to get interesting.
Volaris
(10,274 posts)If its a Trump Cruz ticket, Mickey Mouse could run on the Democratic side and it would be a landslide.
No matter what the GOP does, the November election is going to be won in the Democratic Party primary.
Go, Bernie, GO.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)No sense in taking a chance that either of them will float to the surface again.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)It would literally fracture the rethuglican party...
Let's hope that's how it goes down!
Warpy
(111,326 posts)as rabid partisans for both object to being sidelined in favor of some bland but supposedly "electable" establishment type.
a kennedy
(29,696 posts)presidential candidate.....
http://images.thehollywoodgossip.com/iu/s--h0DnatZU--/t_full/f_auto,fl_lossy,q_75/v1364527489/paul-ryan-weight-lifting.jpg
I swear that's the plan.
demgrrrll
(3,590 posts)The panel there was a 50-70 % chance of a contested convention. My scenario is that Trump attends the convention and somehow saves face and in return give the party elites what they want, that NEW face.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Ask not what your country can do for you - Ask what you can do for your country. ??
Perhaps they will start to be a little more honest with their supporters and understand that the "government" is "We, the People"?
demgrrrll
(3,590 posts)rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Pubbies historically fall in line, but this year might be different.
They will be pissing off the fearful and racist, Trump's base, along with the crazed Religious Right, Cruz's base.
So whoever they pick will need to throw some scraps to each group. Those attempts to pull the groups together will motivate independents and Democrats.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)...and Trump's base are prone to violence, as they have already shown.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Since they ran last time.
I'm so old I remember moderate, fiscally conservative Republicans. George Romney, Mitt's dad, was one of them.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Between them they'll have 85% of the delegates.
Also, Ted Cruz has been working the delegate selection process and getting his people named as Trump delegates.
The Republicans can survive depriving Trump because he really isn't a Republican but rather a big government authoritarian strongman type and is a spectacularly bad fit according to the rest of the party.
But the Republicans can't deprive him and also Cruz, who is a true Republican who fits the party's ideology, in favor of someone for whom no one has voted.
Besides, who would want that nomination under those circumstances?
kentuck
(111,110 posts)who do you think all those Trump supporters will get behind?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)There will be lots of the former, very few of the latter, but in both cases who knows with Trump supporters? They operate from fear and resentment.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)if they feel they have been thrown under the bus?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)beyond the obvious--losers who find that supporting an authoritarian strong man makes them feel like winners.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)If they can't have the Trump flavor, they don't want any.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)against the Democrats. It's not the Democrats who stabbed them in the back.
Flyingbird5066
(75 posts)lostnfound
(16,189 posts)I've wondered whether they'd get Cruz to beat Trump, then Cruz ruled ineligible due to citizenship.
In convention who would they pick?
I suspect Paul Ryan would have a good chance of beating either of our candidates.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)I think that is a given. Ryan is a good guess.
andym
(5,445 posts)Ryan would be a very strong opponent for both Hillary and Bernie. The GOP smear machine already has enough material for Hillary. They probably have had it ready for years. And now they have the email server stuff. Bernie will face an onslaught on his "tax and spend" "socialism." The scare tactics this time against either potential nominee will likely worthy of Lee Atwater himself, who managed to smear the straight as an arrow Dukakis with letting Willie Horton out of prison, not to mention trying to make him seem "red" at the debates by being "a card carrying member of the ACLU", etc