My opinion is that our mistake was timing.

[PeaceNikki]

We should have waited and timed with GE. Democrats suck outside of GE and they wouldn't have have the fodder about how much this election cost taxpayers.

We should have waited. I said it in November and I'll day it til the day I die.

We shot our load the moment we could without regard to, well, reality.


Goodnight, I'm spent and broken.

[SidDithers]

1. I'm sorry it unfolded the way it did, Nikki...

everyone knows how hard you worked.



Sid

[PeaceNikki]

8. thank you. not everyone here thinks so.

But, fuck them. Lots of people busted their asses and I was proudly one of them.

[freshwest]

14. PeaceNikki, I know you did and don't mind the haters. They weren't there in WI and can't judge it.

I wondered about the date as well, but it seemed so urgent, with Walker doing so much damage daily. You guys put in over a year organizing this and need to take to heal.

I can't imagine what it must be like, to know half the state was against the cause, and then to have to see them on a daily basis.

Please keep from getting any more tired or hungry and don't be alone much if you can. Don't take the bad stuff to heart, I'm sorry about some of what I chanced upon today. I don't believe it, and it was not necessary.

Sending healing vibes to all of you in Wisconsin and work to be at peace.

((((((((PeaceNikki))))))))

[Fire Walk With Me]

2. There's also the $60,000,000 the Kockroaches are said to have put into this "election".

Money is speech.

Edit: Perhaps $30 mil. I don't have a source.

[PeaceNikki]

5. Wouldn't have mattered in November.

[msanthrope]

3. You should be proud of your hard work. Go get some sleep. nt

[one_voice]

4. You worked so hard...

I'm sorry!

I don't think it was in vain, you energized people, Nov. is right around the corner.

[pstokely]

6. Dem base came out, Dem leaners didn't

People who care more about voting on American Idol than vote in non-Presidential elections didn't come out

[Baitball Blogger]

7. At least you all wouldn't have made it too easy for people to vote in the Wisconsin election,

and elections where they own property in other states.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

9. Sorry PeaceNikki. Thanks for the good fight!!!

[JackBeck]

10. You had a lot invested in this fight, so please take some time to heal.

We will re-group and the lessons we learned from this defeat will only make us stronger.

[MannyGoldstein]

11. Thanks for your great work

You helped build the roots for movement that will spring forth and blossom boldly soon enough!

[emulatorloo]

12. Thanks for everything you did and for keeping us informed

You all worked your asses off. That work and that energy will pay off some day.

[GObamaGO]

13. I am sorry

My heart breaks for Wisconsin tonight. Especially for the people who worked tirelessly to get the recall on the ballot and to get the vote out.

[AnansiSpyder]

15. We need heads held high!

I just signed up after lurking hear for some months. I've never been prouder than today to be a progressive. I don't think timing was our mistake, I think our mistake is in organizing towards the wrong ends. The deck is stacked! The game does not favor us and we are surprised when we play it and fail. The media - that which intermediates us is purpose built to keep our interests disparate and divided - its a colonial playbook remarkable for its agelessness and universality.

Wall Street, Oakland, the Media - these things need not be Occupied! Thats THEIR tactic and it concedes them all the terrain and begs failure as a goal. We need to ABANDON, AGGREGATE and form a more perfect union of like-mindedness and start with that simple economy. In 2012 and beyond we can create a nation within a nation and work towards an inner economy where we can feed, cloth, shelter, produce and connect for and with others. I think we all have the dream of an America that we would want to see, not the racist, facist and enslaving nation we are waking up to.

But we have to OPT OUT, MODESTLY ACQUIRE and BUILD the first Arcology to get this going, y'know folks? Get outta the media discourse instead of OCCUPY this or that, get some land and start growing, building, teaching, reaching and simply build our world around the feudal lords and their serfdoms as best we can.

[Skinner]

27. Welcome to DU, AnansiSpyder.

[SammyWinstonJack]

32. ...

[a kennedy]

16. Thank you.....

Thank you for ALL you did......it's greatly appreciated.

[Lifelong Protester]

17. I'm with you, Nikki, in the 'spent and broken' aspect

I think that I am most upset by the fact that I must now live here knowing half of the state is a bunch of Walker supporters. And what is is they like? His incompetence? His 'divide and conquer' strategy? His ethically challenged behavior? The fact that he makes my chosen profession of 30 years something to be mocked and resented?

I just don't know.

I'd like to think I can heal, but I am not so sure. This is too intensely personal for a LOT of us, and I am not quick to 'get over it'.

Thank you for keeping us informed, and thanks for all of your hard work.

From a fellow (disillusioned) Wisconsinite.

[PeaceNikki]

20. .

We all worked so very hard.

[ibegurpard]

18. sleep well

thank you for all your efforts!

[Chan790]

19. I agree. For a different reason.

I honestly don't think Walker's going to survive another 5 months without being indicted...if he was under indictment and facing a recall, all the GOP money in the world wouldn't have saved him. Likewise, a resignation would have doomed whoever had the GOP nom. in the recall.

[PeaceNikki]

21. oh yes, that, too. I think he'll be indicted. then, yay, gov bug-eyed Jesus Spice

[Chan790]

25. A question.

What happens if this corruption probe spreads as corruption probes are wont to do and it takes Kleefisch and the WI GOP leadership down with Walker? Does it go to the legislature to determine an interim or will Wisconsinites have to vote yet again in a special election?

[progressoid]

22. But ...

Imagine the damage he would have done if he hadn't been impeded by the recall. He may have won, but I think he's wounded.

[PeaceNikki]

23. bullshit, he's emboldened.

Watch. We're fucked til he is indicted.

[eyesroll]

24. I'm not sure we could have timed it that way

Even if we started petitioning at the "right" time, we'd also had to have predicted how long the certification would take ,which is normally set by statute but here, the GAB got extra time. We very well might have ended up a few weeks off by the time all was said and done.

That said, I agree with your general premise. This would have been easier if we could have guaranteed a first Tuesday after first Monday November recall date.

Apparently, in a footnote that any other day would have been ecstatic news, Lehman declared victory in Racine, and the Senate will flip.

[PeaceNikki]

26. just saw that!! :o

Someone here on DU accused me of being on Koch payroll today. :/ lol

[coalition_unwilling]

28. PeaceNikki, when you get a chance could you please take a look at

my poll and weigh in there with your thoughts and feelings?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002775296

I agree with you that there was some poor timing. But I'm still gathering data and opinions before I form my final opinion.

[PeaceNikki]

29. I'd rather not be pigeonholed into ONE reason.

All of the above is my answer.

[coalition_unwilling]

31. Excellent answer. I should have included that as a choice, I think.

On a way positive note, your efforts in Wisconsin galvanized an entire nation in the months before the Occupy Movement. I remember talking about Wisconsin with a fellow progressive out here in California and each of us expressing a wish to go to Wisconsin in person to support you. (And this in January, mind you

Thanks for taking a look-see.

[GarroHorus]

30. It's also why the Republicans put up phony primary candidates

Had the election been held in May, many of the students who were part of the movement would have still been in Madison to vote.