60 percent say recalls are only for official misconduct

[chowder66]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57447919-503544/early-wisconsin-recall-exit-polls-60-percent-say-recalls-are-only-for-official-misconduct/

on edit: from the article
"The recall effort was brought about mainly in response to Walker's plan that restricted collective bargaining rights for public union workers. Today, 52 percent of Wisconsin voters in the early exit polls said they have a favorable view of unions for government workers, while 43 percent have an unfavorable opinion of these unions. Among voters in unions households (public or not), 69 percent view these unions favorably.


On the issue of collective bargaining, 50 percent of Wisconsin voters say they approved of the recent changes to state law that limits collective bargaining for government workers, but 48 percent disapproved of these changes."


weird

[Scuba]

1. A response that would make more sense if a) that's what our Constitution said, or b) we could...

... recall a single law, like Ohio.

[Skinner]

2. I think that's it right there.

That's what we were up against.

[TheWraith]

7. Yep, I think you're right.

Even if only one in 10 took that as a basis to vote, that's an election.

[SlimJimmy]

18. Agree, and think that the 38% of union housholds that voted for Walker was the other half of the

equation. We need to refine our messaging.

[HiPointDem]

4. and a majority of those voting say they voted for the candidate, not because of their feelings about

recalls.

so this poll = irrelevant. just some ammunition for the pundits to explain how cheater walker "won".

[Ilsa]

5. No, prosecutors are for official misconduct.

Recalls are to throw out bums.

[HooptieWagon]

6. Then 60% are gonna have egg on their face when John Doe is indicted.

[dkf]

8. 50% of voters approved changes to collective bargaining laws = don't raise my taxes.

People were voting their pocketbooks.

[Harmony Blue]

10. I don't agree with that narrative

especially when they are out of a job.

[uponit7771]

12. The majority will rarely vote in benefits for the minority...it's been seen EVERYWHERE

[Harmony Blue]

14. That is not true

out of all countries in the world, the U.S. is one where the majority have voted for the benefit of the few ($$$). The poor are attacked and demonized, and the American dream fantasy still runs rampant.

[Historic NY]

9. Tell Gray Davis that...........

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Gray_Davis_recall_(2003)

[Blue_Tires]

13. +1

This is just one of the bullshit memes Walker's people were able to plant (successfully)

[uponit7771]

11. ******THIS IS IMPORTANT********

[daaron]

16. Explains a lot. nt

[K8-EEE]

17. What was Gray Davis's "official misconduct?"

The plutocrats set out to recall him, spent big money, and succeeded; the plutocrats set out to save Walker, spent big money, and succeeded.

[otohara]

19. Gray Who?

I bet those 60% don't even know who Gray Davis is/was/why/when....nada.

Shit, many of the Miss America contestants just last week who didn't know who the sitting Vice President is. Normally I'd say, meh, but they are competing to be Miss America.

We're a nation of dummies.

[chowder66]

21. Gray Davis was elected to a second term...then recalled

He was losing popularity. Voters and foes were assigning blame for all kinds of issues. Energy crisis, budget, effects of the dotcom bubble bursting, etc. They were dissatisfied and the republican machine kicked in and I think it is a template still used today in politics in general. Many people I knew that voted to recall him later admitting they wish they had figured it out and not recalled him but it was too late.

[bupkus]

22. Darrell Issa boosted the Davis recall with a $2 million donation

The effort to recall Gray Davis began with Republicans Ted Costa, Mark Abernathy, and Howard Kaloogian, who filed their petition with the California Secretary of State and started gathering signatures. The effort was not taken seriously, until Rep. Darrell Issa, who hoped to run as a replacement candidate for governor, donated $2 million towards the effort. This infusion of money allowed Costa and Kaloogian to step up their efforts. Eventually, proponents gathered about 1.6 million signatures, of which 1,356,408 were certified as valid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_gubernatorial_recall_election,_2003

[McCamy Taylor]

25. Bush and Co. had Gray Davis recalled and Arnold installed to shut down the Enron civil suit

that could have opened a huge can of worms for the Bush administration. Ken Lay hand picked Arnold. That is the exact opposite of Wi. However, one thing people seemed to forget in WI----special elections always favor the GOP, since there is low turnout (and GOPers always come out to vote).

On the plus side, lots of Obama supporters are now registered for this fall.

[bhikkhu]

26. There may be a difference between a Californian and a Wisconsonite

...so what 60% of those polled in Wisconsin think doesn't say or do much for Gray Davis.

[Mairead]

20. It's that kind of thinking that puts me in favor of testing

People should be innoculated against that kind of nonsense by having to pass a test before they can vote.

Not a test designed to exclude them, but one designed to verify that they know what they need to know to be a proper citizen.

For example, they need to know the bedrock-basic principle that the duty of an elected official is to do the best possible job for everyone, not just his cronies, and that if someone's interests must be disregarded, it should be the interests of those who can best afford to take the hit.

And they need to know the basic good-sense principle that if some official isn't doing his job, he should lose the job immediately, not years later after he's wrecked thousands of other lives too.

Such basic principles of citizenship aren't difficult to learn. And to guard against Jim-Crowism, every testee should be able to choose his examiners from those who've successfully passed the test themselves.

[McCamy Taylor]

23. From what I hear, that is coming. The prosecution of the misconduct, I mean.

However, politicians under indictment usually step down as part of a plea deal.

[Dokkie]

24. Weord since 3

conservatives were recalled in WI, one on the night Scott Walker survived his recall. More like, the result points to WI voters wanting to force the public sector unions to get a pay cut.

[gkhouston]

27. I find it simply amazing that none of the pundits or DUers on the ground were talking about

this before yesterday. Sounds like the "value voters" bullshit all over again. Anyone on DU actually take this poll? It would be interesting to see how the questions were phrased.

[DallasNE]

28. Big Mistake To Try And Recall Lt. Gov.

That made it easy to frame this as a do-over election. I posted about this once before. Had the Lt. Gov. been left out of the recall effort then an argument could be made that if this was a do-over election we would have included that office too. Then the focus should have been on the corruption probe and the lies told about what Walker said on the campaign trail and his actions as Governor. The focus has to be on the malfeasance and how that has translated into Wisconsin being 50th in the nation in job growth in March. As it is, the recall never gained traction and it is easy to understand why.

[sybylla]

29. Official misconduct? What do you call lying to congress, lying to voters, ignoring court orders

to open the state capitol building back up, violating open meetings laws, a john doe investigation, turning in campaign finance reports with so many violations your campaign could be faced with a half mil in fines (if the agency in question had any balls) and so effing much more?

I guess unacknowledged and unpunished Republican misconduct has set the bar so high for Official Misconduct that no one even fucking knows what it is when it's staring them in the fucking face anymore.

[Canuckistanian]

30. Misconduct is also making sweeping, harmful changes THAT YOU DIDN'T CAMPAIGN ON

The voters had NO CLUE that Walker planned to eliminate public sector unions, but he carried out his plans anyways, with the help of other RW Senate extremists.