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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKansas Bill Would Pay Students A $2,500 Bounty To Hunt For Trans People In Bathrooms
Not The Onion!
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2016/03/22/3762490/kansas-transgender-ransom-bathrooms/
The complementary bills (SB 513 and HB 2737) declare in no uncertain terms that transgender students are going to harm other students just by using the same facility alongside them. Allowing students to use restrooms, locker rooms and showers that are reserved for students of a different sex will create potential embarrassment, shame, and psychological injury to students, they read.
Like bills proposed in other states, these measures attempt to define sex in a narrow way in this case, the physical condition of being male or female, which is determined by a persons chromosomes, and is identified at birth by a persons anatomy. The definition ignores the many genetic and anatomic variations that can actually occur in how sex actually presents itself and, by design, erases the significance of transgender identities entirely. The explicit goal is to maintain order and dignity in restrooms, locker rooms, showers and other facilities where students may be in various states of undress in the presence of other students....
But transgender students are apparently such a threat to their peers that these lawmakers believe anyone who has to be in a restroom for them should have grounds for a suit. If a student encounters someone of the opposite sex, they have a private cause of action against the school. The aggrieved student is entitled to $2,500 for every time they saw someone transgender in the restroom, plus monetary damages for all psychological, emotional and physical harm suffered as a result of a violation of this section.
Looks like Dog the Bounty Hunter is headed to Kansas.
Wait, isn't Kansas broke? Where do they propose to come with $2500 times however many times trans people need to pee?!
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)Response to KamaAina (Original post)
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enlightenment
(8,830 posts)Your bigotry is showing.
saturnsring
(1,832 posts)enlightenment
(8,830 posts)Okay, I'll rephrase.
The poster's ignorance and bigotry is showing.
Is that better?
CincyDem
(6,363 posts)I'm sure you honestly think that guys who would do this aren't doing it already. lol
Step back and consider this: If you think that bathroom laws keep guys from doing creepy things, do you think that gun laws will keep guys from shooting people ?
Maybe it's possible that the only way to protect society from a bad guy in a dress is with a good guy in a dress...so...dresses all around (except maybe in Kansas).
saturnsring
(1,832 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Enjoy your stay.
Vinca
(50,279 posts)Not the sharpest of tacks down there in Kansas.
BadgerKid
(4,553 posts)Why not have just single-occupant/family restrooms?
The notion of Penis Patrol is laughable yet sad.
CincyDem
(6,363 posts)lol. Makes as much sense as anything else being proposed in Kansas.
Dorothy was right to leave.
katsy
(4,246 posts)Get rid of those nasty urinals! Quick fix.
liberal N proud
(60,336 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Sadly, it isn't.
avebury
(10,952 posts)"bounty" and other related "costs."
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,740 posts)The GOPers in Minnesota are proposing one as well. It won't go anywhere because our good liberal governor will veto it. But what's the BFD anyhow?
A trans person who was born male but identifies as female will use the women's bathroom because that person is effectively female. In that bathroom they will go into a stall, shut the door and do their business. Nobody will know what their genitalia look like. Nobody pays any attention to what somebody else is doing in the bathroom. Likewise, a person who was born female but identifies as male will use the men's room and nobody will pay any attention to what he is doing.
They obviously haven't thought through the consequence of these vicious, discriminatory laws. So a trans person is forced to use the bathroom that corresponds to their original equipment, as it were. So, when a trans man - a person who is obviously male from all outward appearances - tries to use the women's restroom because the law says he has to because he is chromosomally female - what will happen? He gets kicked out, maybe arrested, but he can't use the men's room either, so does he have resort to peeing in the alley, which is also illegal?
WTF is wrong with these GOPer idiots?
libodem
(19,288 posts)Have we returned to the era of the "Boys of Boise"?
True story from the 50's. Have we not moved foreward in the last 60 years?
OMFG.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Problem solved.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)That's men and women, by the way. They're both equally terrible. I am STRONGLY anti-peeing-on-seats.
Deadshot
(384 posts)They've been around since humans could walk on two legs. Why the big fear now?
ohnoyoudidnt
(1,858 posts)This appears to be their next target.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)They are just doubling down on any other oppressed group as a backlash against losing that fight. What on earth is going on in this country. The last week or so I have read some of the most insane headlines I have ever seen in my life!
Johonny
(20,852 posts)jpak
(41,758 posts)yup
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)Simply claim the principal is transgendered whenever you see them use the restroom, and count the money! For principal, you can substitute teacher, coach, or any other disliked faculty or staff member.
stage left
(2,962 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)ck4829
(35,077 posts)What next, genital inspecting Sentinels? Ascribed status patrols that make sure you are conforming to any and all ascribed statuses? With Kansas and their magical monetary policy, it might be possible.
Omaha Steve
(99,662 posts)Husband overreacts...
Glitterati
(3,182 posts)Do these people have separate male/female bathrooms at home?
Have these people never shared a bathroom with a person of the opposite sex anywhere?
Have these people stayed at hotels where perhaps someone of the opposite sex used the SAME bathroom? Restaurants?
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with these people?
Initech
(100,081 posts)Fuck them and their religion of hate.
bdwker
(435 posts)who the hell voted for them?
ky_dem
(86 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Half the fun would be him getting from South Park to Kansas.