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madaboutharry

(40,216 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 06:55 PM Mar 2016

All this over the top pandering

doesn't help Israel. You need to deal with the reality you are given, not the reality you wish for. If there is ever to be peace between Israel and Palestine it will take both sides stopping on insisting that the other side is entirely to blame. The policies presented in today's speeches at AIPAC are policies that only drive the two sides further apart.

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astrophuss42

(290 posts)
8. One of the reasons
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:28 PM
Mar 2016

I had to get on the Bernie side of things. Gosh, the last thing we need to do is overinvolve ourselves!

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
4. I know, Israel seems to be marching towards settling everything until there is nothing left
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:08 PM
Mar 2016

for Palestine.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. What saddens me
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:08 PM
Mar 2016

Is that the reason the US was able to act as a facilitator of the Camp David Accords was because both sides saw us as an honest broker of the negotiations.

If the US is to be of assistance to the parties in negotiating a settlement, these types of proclamations aren't helpful to rekindling what was, at one time, a promising process.

Both sides need to dispense with absolutism - and they also need a mutual friend to help them sort their differences in a manner they can live with.

procon

(15,805 posts)
5. My take away: That's a man who really hates America and
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:09 PM
Mar 2016

blames the US President for Israel's political problems. Pandering? Why, Trump would have America serve as a client state of Israel and launch a 21st century religious crusade against the billions of believers in Islam, catering to a foreign power without regard for the costs in blood and treasure, or our own domestic and global interests.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
6. Who supports the forever war in the middle east? It's not the progressives. And I am not so sure
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:23 PM
Mar 2016

that Clinton is that far away with her position against Islam. She has already threatened Iran.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
10. clinton is as bad as trump. clinton is as bad as trump.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:42 PM
Mar 2016

rinse and repeat.

every freaking discussion on DU, that has to get slipped in one way or another. where's that going to leave the party if/when she wins the nomination? disunited and vulnerable to 1 of 2 loathsome, actual fascists.

she's not an end-times lunatic or a malignant narcissist. yes, she's more of a hawk than Sanders. EVERYONE in DC is more of a hawk than Sanders. the presidency would force Sanders to be more of a hawk than he is now. he'd disappoint 90% of DU, just like Obama has.



 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
11. No one has ever said that. Can you spell STRAWMAN. Clinton isn't as bad as the Republicons.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:44 PM
Mar 2016

But she agrees with them on most issues. Especially fighting wars in the middle east.

They both do love American Exceptionalism.

Martin Eden

(12,873 posts)
7. AIPAC is an obstacle to peace
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 07:28 PM
Mar 2016

There are obstacles on both sides of the I/P conflict, but only one side wields tremendous influence on US electoral politics.

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
14. Listening to Trump Today....
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 09:28 PM
Mar 2016

...I realized that he is doing exactly what he has been doing for a long time. He is making promises that he will not be able to keep. Can you imagine him brokering a peace deal between these two enemies? He is a thug!

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