DNC head challenged by faith leaders over exploitative payday lending

[n2doc]

Several Cooperative Baptist Fellowship ministers were among 36 faith leaders sending an open letter March 17 taking the chair of the Democratic National Committee to task for resisting attempts by the Obama administration to rein in abuses in payday lending.

The clergy asked Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) to support rules being drafted by the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to crack down on abusive payday lending.

“The Bible expressly forbids excessive interest and warns us not to ‘exploit the poor because they are poor’ (Proverbs 22:22),” the faith leaders said. “With its average 400 percent interest rate, payday lending is the very definition of exploitation.”

The clergy said exploiting the poor is “the very business model” of payday lending, in which money is made by lending amounts that a borrower cannot pay back in time unless they take out another loan, and then another, and so forth.

“Each loan comes with an astronomical interest rate that eats an ever‐bigger hole in the borrower’s budget,” they said. “We call this the debt trap. It is intentional. It is not moral. It should not be legal.”

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https://baptistnews.com/2016/03/18/dnc-head-challenged-by-faith-leaders-over-exploitative-payday-lending/

[djean111]

1. Good to see Debbie DINO being dragged out into the sunlight, after watching her operate as

a DINO, voting with and campaigning for and supporting her GOP cronies, at last. About time.

[NCjack]

12. Cockroaches abhor sunlight. But, she wants that money. Keep it or not, it is now a campaign

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issue. Her brain says "keep it and accept the pain."

[tazkcmo]

2. Their first mistake

Thinking DWS or the DNC give a rat's tit for the welfare of the American people.

[TheBlackAdder]

29. Money trumps faith. Religious leaders are waisting their time, unless they triple the legal bribes!

[PatrynXX]

67. not sure if I'd use that word though

whats wrong with it's ass? only time that word is used properly is when it's used to describe the mouse button on the keyboard of a laptop X_X yes thats what Dell told me it was called . They are like hey it looks like one

[hereforthevoting]

3. I'm sorry but this does not bode well

At least it shouldn't but I am sure this is one of that many offenses that could just be swept under the rug by people who prefer that technique.

[tkmorris]

8. I'm not entirely sure what you are saying here

[hereforthevoting]

9. People have blinders on and the most damning evidence wont change that

[MidwestTech]

37. more like too little too late

this would have helped as late as 2 months ago... but now...
we'll see how things land.

[Scuba]

4. Hey, hey, ho, ho. DINO Debbie's got to go!

[840high]

75. Hey, ho yes!

[Cryptoad]

5. This the same grouip supporting open carry in Churchs.... geeez

[BillZBubb]

6. So by attacking the group, you are supporting Schultz's position on payday loans?

Seriously?

[Cryptoad]

10. I didn't say that abt supporting anybody

but I am not going to take the Word of a group that supports open carry in Church as the Gospel as this article implies

[BillZBubb]

13. You must have a weird concept of logic then.

When you attack the messenger, you are de facto defending the attacked. Instead of your weak response, you could have stated that although you dislike the group, DWS is wrong on this and deserves to be called out on it. But no.

It isn't too difficult to find plenty of other sources showing DWS's disgusting position on this issue.

[Cryptoad]

17. Logic?

Questionling the source of information does fit ur logic. interesting

[BillZBubb]

19. Clearly you don't have a good grasp of basic logic. Either that or you do support payday loans.

Your post was a classic ad hominem defense of Schultz. By logical inference you supported her position on payday loans.


Ad Hominem: "an attack on an argument made by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, rather than attacking the argument directly. When used inappropriately, it is a logical fallacy in which a claim or argument is dismissed on the basis of some irrelevant fact or supposition about the author or the person being criticized"

[Cryptoad]

22. u must be having a hard time understanding

what i wrote..... [more slowly] I question the source since they support open carry in Church.

[BillZBubb]

25. Geez, give it a rest. You've lost. Quit embarrassing yourself.

Everyone got your message. It has NOTHING to do with payday loans, which at this point it is clear you support.

There are other sources on this issue, which you choose to ignore. You've had ample opportunity is this discussion to denounce Schultz's position, which you have not.

[Cryptoad]

28. u seem to be the one having a problem giving a rest

[even more slowly] I question the source of info that supports open carry in Churches ~nothing more nothing less

[BillZBubb]

33. There are plenty of other sources on this, but you are too lazy or disinterested to investigate.

And you cannot bring yourself to admit Schultz is wrong on this issue.

I actually feel sorry for you. Your partisanship has frozen your brain to the point where you have no moral compass.

[Cryptoad]

36. once again

I didnt state any opinion either way on the right or wrong of Schultz. but feel free to make up what u think I think. and I surely dont feel the need to lecture other people i dont know on their moral compass but dont let me interrupt.

[Plucketeer]

47. Bringing the veracity of the group confronting DWS is simply veiled opinion in itself.

Your camouflage was weak. When you try to defend DWS and her actions in support of legal loan sharks, that's when you "jumped" one. DWS would be much more at home with the RNC. Over there, they LOVE ripping off the disenfranchised - especially if they get recompense for doing so!

[Cryptoad]

53. this is really not that hard

I dont consider Baptist News.com a good source of info abt anything or anybody. If u do thats ok with me. but I dont need u to tell my what u think Im thinking. but thz anyway.

[DonCoquixote]

59. how about these folks?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/debbie-wasserman-schultz-payday-lenders_us_56e1a9d6e4b065e2e3d50764

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/01/dnc_chair_debbie_wasserman_schultz_joins_hands_with_gop_in_assault_on_elizabeth_warrens_consumer_protection_agency/

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a42611/debbie-wasserman-schultz-resign/

these folks are not exactly right wing.

[Cryptoad]

60. Geez,,,,

I only stated I dont think BaptistNews.com is good source of info....I didn say anything abt huff, salon or esquire. nor anything abt Wasserman one way or another. Whats ur point?

[DonCoquixote]

64. the point is

Debbie is being rightfully condemned or supporting people that do the sort of lending that used to be a crime, and that Debbie will thus make it easier to attack her friend Hillary. Then again, obviously epople other than ther Baptists were abkle to make thyat connection.

[Cryptoad]

65. I didn't say anything about Debbie, ,,,,,,,

[noamnety]

80. That's the problem.

People are wondering why your immediate and only concern is who the church leaders are, and why you are eerily silent on the issue being discussed: the DNC chair's defense of payday loans.

“In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.”

[Plucketeer]

81. It seems to be challenging for you.

Here, lemmee fix it so even YOU can see it.....

Here's the OP's header: "DNC head challenged by faith leaders over exploitative payday lending". But THEN..... we remove just three words that you seem fixated over - these three right here-> by faith leaders There! Now you employ your crypto-sensic insights to see the crux of the matter with Ms. Schultz and her advocating for the disadvantaged to be swindled by greedy scum - no matter WHO has made the damning allegations.

[Cryptoad]

82. no not at all challenging

I said I dont think BaptistNews.org is a good source of info..... still believe that. but hang in there talking to urself.

[Plucketeer]

86. LOL!

Do you believe your sig line? Seems contrary to your stance.

[Cryptoad]

88. sig line seems to fit right in with

BaptistNewOrg is not a good source of info.

[Plucketeer]

90. Of course

You're SO Right. I should have realized from the get go that your view is the only view. Thanks for making me smarter!

[Cryptoad]

91. ur pretty smart

but u havent even challenging my opinion that BaptistNewsOrg is not a good source of info. u have been talking to urself abt things that I never stated or commented on.

[Jemmons]

98. If you dont by yourself appreciate how offensive you line of argument is - then at least take notice

of how people respond.

[Plucketeer]

106. I do know how to

spell "group" and "churches" tho.

[Scootaloo]

107. Fact is, Wasserman-Schultz is protecting predatory lenders

You've been given multiple confirming sources on this, and you're still trying to have an argument. Why?

[Human101948]

111. You're not fooling anyone...

You are just creating a distraction from the deplorable actions of Hillary's BFF.

[beerandjesus]

120. The poster you're talking to is lying about one of two things:

EITHER, the poster did not read the site (because they do not support open carry),
OR, the poster did read the site, and is just lying about their positions.

The poster keeps doubling down on a false claim--one that is easily refuted by clicking a simple link and skimming a bit.

Just so you know what you're dealing with. Even if the poster's argument were formally valid (which it's not, it's an ad hominem fallacy), it would still be unsound, because of the false premise employed.

[beerandjesus]

119. The source does not support open carry in churches.

You OBVIOUSLY didn't read the site... even though you claim you did.

[Cryptoad]

122. I read more critically than some........

[beerandjesus]

123. If "not reading at all" equals "reading more critically then some"

Here are the first three paragraphs of the article you're talking about:

https://baptistnews.com/2016/03/21/packing-in-the-pews/


Jim Coston, senior pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Waco, Texas, is still planning to use his guns.

He lives outside the city and wants to protect his goats and chickens, and firearms greatly diminish a wild predator’s return on investment when it comes to killing livestock and poultry.

The place that Coston isn’t taking his firearms is church.

Church leaders around Texas are — no surprise — under the impression that an openly displayed handgun doesn’t promote a worshipful environment.

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Yeah, they're grinding that axe, aren't they??

[beerandjesus]

124. Speaking of, here's an excerpt from an opinion piece from those right-wing extremists:

https://baptistnews.com/2016/03/22/power-in-the-blood-a-holy-week-execution/

Originating in our thirst for blood, the death penalty represents a failure to love. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the highest executing states in our nation all have heavily Christian populations. Deadly theology leads to deadly practice. The death penalty is based on an idea that blood is required to atone for evil. We are carrying out an ancient ritual of atonement every time the state kills for us. The problem is that this denies any belief that Jesus is the atonement. God didn’t kill Jesus. The love of Jesus is what took him to the cross. The atonement is love. How can we love and kill at the same time? We can’t. Every time we carry out one of these executions we deny the love of Jesus. The death penalty has made us heretics. We are desperately in need of salvation.

Here in Texas, we are reenacting Holy Week. The only difference is that Adam Ward, whose execution is scheduled for today in Huntsville, Texas, is not Jesus. We are letting Ward say goodbye to his friends. We are giving Ward his final meal. We are leading Ward to the place. We are forcing Ward to climb up. We are making Ward extend his arms. We are forcing metal to pierce Ward’s skin. We are pumping poison into Ward’s veins. We are murderers. There is no question that Ward murdered City of Commerce Code Enforcement Officer Michael “Pee Wee” Walker in 2005. There is also no question that we are about to do the same thing.


Yeah, every one of those guys is Ted Cruz! Because, well, Baptists!

[Marr]

30. I find that party loyalists rarely actually *support* anything, as such.

They're for whatever makes party leaders look good at any given moment, and against whatever makes them look bad. The issues are just props. The only important element on the stage is their adored actors.

[BillZBubb]

31. That appears to be the case here.

[Brother_Love]

56. You hit the nail on the head.

[closeupready]

57. Yup. There's also the entire DU post history here

to consider. Suffice it to say, you and the others are correct.

[astrophuss42]

27. The source is literally The Bible

[Cryptoad]

32. No the source in question is

the Baptist News .com ,,,, seems they have a problem with info like most right wing groups,,,,,they didnt even quote the bible correctly- the bible condemns charging any interest not to mention who did what when and where.

[libdem4life]

54. Clearly, you have no concept of a Payday Loan. Mosgt don't need a website

or an "approved messenger" to get what Usary is. It is also in the Bible...guess that's not good enough for you either. Jesus had much to say about the rich. I'll not elaborate, but most know His Words about that. Oh right, the Faith Leaders quoted Him.

No plausible defense regardless of "Who" happened to get the message out.

Disclaimer: I have had 2 of those nasty things in times when in need. They are the Superpredators.

[Ilsa]

110. The group happens to be right about the business

Of payday lending. They aren't right about everything, but they aren't wrong on everything ,too, just because they are wrong on open-carry.

Their rationale on payday lending comports with their beliefs and what their Bible tells them. They believe it is wrong to legally permit them the ability to overcharge and exploit poor people in debt.

Why the black-and-white thinking, or are you a payday lender?

[annabanana]

23. (glad you are here)

Unpacking the devices of rhetoric is hugely useful. (no snark)

[Marr]

26. Yes, logic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

You're trying to undermine the argument by attacking the person who said it.

[Cryptoad]

34. NO I was only stating

my opinion that I question the source of info from any group that supports Open Carry in Church...... nothing more and nothing less. But if u feel the need to add more to my opinion , go for it.

[Marr]

45. You weren't questioning some esoteric piece of data.

You dismissed their very simple statement on the nature of the payday loan industry. It's all about high interest rate, short term loans to poor people. That's like saying the sky is blue.

[Cryptoad]

89. I dismissed nothing,

just stated my opinion that BaptistNewsOrg is not a good source of info. I said nothing about payday loans. U r reading what u want to read into it.

[Act_of_Reparation]

121. LOL

When you attack the messenger, you are de facto defending the attacked.

Last I checked Excluded Middle was still a fallacy, not a valid syllogism.

Don't quit your day job.

[beerandjesus]

35. Signatories include that noted right-winger, William Barber.

I doubt *he* supports open carry in churches.

[Cryptoad]

38. Have u read their web site?

[beerandjesus]

41. I've been browsing it for the past half hour...

....and frankly, it looks pretty damn progressive for a Baptist web site.

Headlines include:

"Packing in the Pews" (which is a news story, but features a big graphic of a gun with a slash through it on the page--HARDLY the sort of presentation that leaves one with the impression that they're advocating for guns in churches)
"End US Embargo on Cuba, faith leaders tell Congress"
"NCAA won't divest from schools that discriminate"
"When religion turns hateful, it loses its moral voice" (opinion piece)

....plus lots of stuff that has more to do with religion.

Did YOU read the web site? Because it looks to me like you just assumed all Baptists are right-wingers and threw your hands up.

[Cryptoad]

44. Yes I read the website

yep Fair and Balanced,,,,, Great Source of the Truth.

[Plucketeer]

48. OK then!

So this misguided group of bible thumpers is WRONG to call out Debbie and her support of the PayDay lending leeches??? I mean, this is what you're TRYING (so poorly, I might add) to convey. See, even tho you may not like the source, there's MANY other groups and notable individuals who are saying the SAME things about Ms. Schultz and her "progressive" ideas about legal loan sharking.

[Cryptoad]

51. I never said,,,

the group was wrong,,, or right.... only stated my opinion that I dont consider them to be a good source of info. {about anything}, Thats it no more no less but feel free to urself u get the urge, but i dont need u to lecture me on what u think im thinking abt anything.

[rhett o rick]

62. So typical that you won't commit. No wonder you like Clinton. Seems to me you don't

really care what happens to the poor. The Payday Loan Sharks pay the Conservative Democrats like DINO Debbie quite well. It's all about supporting the biggest bully.

[Cryptoad]

63. I do know better than to

lecture people about what I think they should b saying or their moral compass. I made a statement about BaptistNews.com com not being a good source of info abt anything or anybody. thats my opinion whether u like it or not, i dont care.

[rhett o rick]

69. That isn't the issue discussed in the OP. But here is another case where you won't commit to

telling us your position on Pay Day Loan Sharks. I guess you support whatever positions Clinton, DINO Debbie and the Party Elite say and the hell with the consequences. This is a class war and DINO Debbie would be on the side opposite the People. The Pay Day Loan Sharks will pay her well. It's the graft and corruption that millions have come out to fight against.

[Cryptoad]

70. I wasn't discussing anyting

I made a comment about the info source of the OP,,,,, period.....

[rhett o rick]

71. I have found the same situation with most major issues. Clinton supporters won't

commit to a stand on the issues. Like fracking, the TPP, college tuition, medical marijuana (by the way, I think it's immoral to deny people in pain medical marijuana. But empathy isn't a strong suit for those that revere money and wealth). How do you feel about the death penalty. Let me guess on that one. You support Clinton's stand on the death penalty. We must be tough to hell with the consequences. How about the Patriot Act? Domestic spying? Indefinite Detention and habeus corpus?

Forgive me asking these rhetorical questions when I know fully well that you and other Clinton supporters support her positions on everything, and when she changes her position, you go along with that too.

[Cryptoad]

72. tick, tick, tick

[rhett o rick]

77. Tick, tick, tick, until the People throw the Rich and Powerful out of our politics. It won't be

easy because you have all the money and media. But we will do it. We must do something about the 16,000,000 children living in poverty that you guys somehow can ignore in favor of the Clintons amassing a huge wealth.

[Cryptoad]

78. u r so smart

How do u know so much ?

[rhett o rick]

83. I will be glad to tell you. I am on the front lines. I have family that lost their home. You must

be a little empathetic. They lost their home. I also have family members that even with college educations, they can't find work other than min wage. My best friend lost all of his retirement do to the greed of the wealthy that you seem to revere so much. He has a bad knee and can't work and has zero retirement. He relies on Social Security and Medicare, programs that your wealthy idols want badly to privatize. I spend time working at a foodbank where the donations have dried up because we only get donations from people in the working class and they are strapped. Not that any of your rich and wealthy idols would help us out.

How many of our families are you willing to see die or get wounded in the middle east wars that Clinton loves so much. The neocons have endorsed her. How much of our resources are you willing to let the billionaires loot before you care? There are 16,000,000 children living in abject poverty with another 16,000,000 living in low income homes. Wake the frack up. Goldman-Sachs and those that support Clinton would have her ignore the poverty and help them deregulate continue looting the lower classes.

It's really not hard to figure out that the Wealthy 1%, including the Clintons with their ill gotten $150,000,000, get their wealth by looting the lower classes. People are literally dying do to the growing, GROWING wealth gap that you want to ignore.

[ciaobaby]

84. Please - put an end to it

Do you support payday lending or not ?

[Cryptoad]

85. Welll since u ask nice

No I dont support payday lending. I dont support lending of any kind if interest is charged. ...

[beerandjesus]

125. Just so there's no ambiguity here, BNG does not support guns in churches, as the other poster claims

And here's an example (in addition to two I posted above) of their extreme right-wing rhetoric, pulled from an opinion piece:

https://baptistnews.com/2016/03/14/when-religion-turns-hateful-it-loses-its-moral-voice/

In this craziest of presidential primary seasons, I have not mentioned the Republican candidate with the “best plumage,” the colorful description offered by Marilynne Robinson. I have found his words so offensive, his narcissism so egregious, and his attitude toward “others” so despicable. I have not wanted to draw further attention to this headline-grabbing vortex, so he shall remain nameless. (It is unlikely that he could fire a seminary president, anyway.) Nonetheless, I cannot keep silent about his uncontrolled depiction of the world’s fastest growing religion or about his mocking use of Christianity for political gain.

The statement “Islam hates us” during CNN’s recent debate is one more example of his pattern of reckless speech; it only serves to foment alienation for American Muslims and recruitment opportunity for radical Islamic groups. We must see this statement for what it is: a dangerous pandering to the most exclusivist understandings of Christianity. It also stokes fear in the U.S. Jewish community, given the close ties with Israel. [...]

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The poster you're replying to is being completely dishonest. It's quite possible that there are opinions on their site I'd disagree with too, but he's pretending that because they're Baptists, they must be agitating for guns in churches, and THEN pretending that that discredits their criticism of DWS. It's completely disingenuous.

[rhett o rick]

127. They've decided that the ends justify their means. They are following the behavior of the wealthy

1% that think their schite don't stink and they get whatever they want and they want the resources of the lower classes.

Why do people side with the Big Money? Just like on the school ground, they get behind the biggest bully and think they are tough.

[Bluenorthwest]

112. Hypocritical for the 'Church A Day' candidate who is endorsed by the 'Loan A Day' Chairwoman.....

I get that you have to defend what DWS does 'cause Hillary but loan sharks suck.

[rhett o rick]

61. So you support the loan sharks stealing from the poor? rhetorical. It's all about exploitation

isn't it? The TPP will kill our working force and the Conservative Wing will celebrate. Fracking will ruin our water supplies and the Conservative Wing will celebrate.

[840high]

76. aND YOUR POINT?

[Cryptoad]

93. my point is my opinion that

baptistNewsOrg is not a good source of info.

[markpkessinger]

104. I can find no evidence that BaptistNews.org has taken a position on open carry...

... I see that they are reporting on the issue in a Baptist context, and there are certainly Baptist congregations that do advocate open carry. Given Baptist beliefs about the freedom of individual baptist churches to determine for themselves the policies they will embrace with regard to matters such as this, it is to be expected that Baptists will hold a range of views on this topic. And one would expect that a service reporting news of interest to and for Baptists would cover the range of opinions Baptists hold on the subject.

Nor do I find any evidence that the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship -- a group of moderate Baptists -- has taken a position on the issue.

But, even if either BaptistNews.org or the CBF taken a position, does the fact that they may hold an opinion that you -- and I suspect most of us -- strongly disagree with automatically render them a bad source of other information? Are you suggesting they are akin to a site like WorldNetDaily, or other similar sites, that have a notorious track record of publishing wildly false and distorted news stories?

[beerandjesus]

126. I'm actually pretty impressed with how progressive that site is...

...so much so, in fact, that I've bookmarked it. (And for the record, I don't consider myself a Christian, let alone a Baptist.)

It's nice to have found a place where I can find a reasonable religious voice, a pleasant contrast with the right-wing extremism that garners the media attention. I wish all religious publications were as concerned with the public good as the CBF seems to be--the previous poster's slander notwithstanding.

[Odin2005]

92. Nice Ad Hominem.

[Cryptoad]

94. Just explaining my opinion

that I stated,

[rateyes]

99. No it isn't. the CBF supports nomsuch thing. I know because I helped found the group.

[Baitball Blogger]

7. Well, DWS has managed to do one thing I haven't seen before.

A right-wing voter block has come out to remind a politician of their responsibilities to the poor.


Ouch! That's gotta hurt.

[hereforthevoting]

11. +10000

[LiberalArkie]

15. This election cycle sure will have a lot of books written about it.

[jwirr]

40. This may be the black part of the Baptist Church. If that is

so then it is no surprise that they stand with the poor. Don't forget the Dr. King was a Baptist minister.

I think it is interesting that they used the one old testament regulation that is also used in Judaism. Usury.

[Left Coast2020]

101. She has apparently supported repukes in Florida on legislation

Given her support of pay-day lenders I don't doubt it one bit. And thats not from just a single post, but several.

[NCjack]

14. Has Hillary told her to dump that money and get right with "help the poor" HRC campaign? /nt

[Uncle Joe]

16. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, n2doc.

[pangaia]

18. The BIBLE says this? Is THAT why it is wrong.

Hell, I figured that out decades ago--- on my own.

[annabanana]

21. Well, this is a church source.

Understandable that this is the direction.

[MidwestTech]

39. it's actually condemned in a few places... my Fav is Jesus and the Temple

Dude got all old school up in there!
Honestly on this issue I will take any and all allies that can be found.
pay-day loans are the mob legalized. it's disgusting!
This is only more proof that Bernie's ideas are the way to go.
Let the Post Office offer basic banking services like most countries do!

why are we so proud to lag behind progress anyway?

[annabanana]

20. as well they SHOULD be. . . . n/t

[mountain grammy]

24. So there you have it..

The payday lenders are thieves, making our parishioners even poorer and our donations are down. It's just not trickling down like it's supposed to.
Everyone robs the poor, but these payday lenders are especially evil.. I've bailed a few friends out of their clutches. Just do the right thing, Debbie, because it's the right thing to do.

[SoapBox]

42. Maybe Little Debbie should switch taking money from payday lenders and get it from

Prisons for Profit.

'Cause ya know...that's so much better.

[Dont call me Shirley]

43. DWS is the very anti-essence of the D party. Can her.

[Fuddnik]

66. Unfortunately, she's the essence of what it's become.

[Dr. Strange]

74. So much truth in this.

So much sad truth.

[raouldukelives]

46. Well, usury is what, anything over 1%?

I'm all for them trying to act more Christian. They have a long way to go.

[George II]

49. Is there no limit to where some on DU will delve to find dirt against OUR party?

On this "issue", she is a Congresswoman, not the DNC head! The DNC isn't drafting the rules, CONGRESS is drafting the rules.

[n2doc]

50. None! Absolutely no Limit! n/t

[George II]

114. Obviously you didn't objectively read the article or look into the laws that are already.....

.....on the books.

[n2doc]

118. Objective is subjective

Obviously you don't like anyone posting anything that might disparage DWS. Why is that, pray tell?

[TipTok]

52. It would help if she stopped doing such shady and unethical shit...

The letter after her names doesn't excuse her from the responsibility to be a quality leader.

This is just a drop in the ocean of dirty tricks and bad decisions by DWS.

[George II]

115. Read post #114, and its obvious you're taking this "issue" to slam everything she's done....

.....how is this a "dirty trick"?

[TipTok]

117. Dirty.. unethical... Abuse of a trusted position...

Call it what you want

[awoke_in_2003]

58. So, you support her position on this? nt

[George II]

116. Do you know "her position on this"? If so, what is it. Sadly people see that name and...

....immediately draw conclusions.

It would pay to read the article.

[awoke_in_2003]

128. Yes

we know she is on the side of the payday lenders, along with the GOP.

[AngryOldDem]

113. If she is supporting this, yes, she needs to be called on it.

Because she is not helping OUR party.

Pretty simple.

Blind allegiance...gotta love it.

[MisterP]

55. I sense religious engineering in the future

from now on all pulpits and exegetic material will have to be vetted by some glaze-eyed DNC intern first

[Ferd Berfel]

68. GOod reason to send Tim C some money

We need to start primarying the Corporate "Dems"

[CharlotteVale]

73. I don't give a rip about "faith leaders," but I'm an atheist against usury.

[spanone]

79. k&r...

[Initech]

87. I've often said that payday loan vendors are the demon spawn of Satan.

Maybe now "faith leaders" might start agreeing with me?

[ashling]

95. I got a resolution into the Erath County Convention

25 Little Debbie as chairperson of the Democratic National Committee do to her conflicts-of-interest yada yada yada

[Skittles]

96. religious leaders complaining about people being fleeced of their money

now THAT is rich

[blackspade]

97. Religious people with morals....refreshing!

[Left Coast2020]

100. But to DINO Debbie....

Exploiting the poor is okay if it means a cushy job in a Clinton administration.

[whereisjustice]

102. DNC needs to be challenged on their support for sending jobs to exploitative Asian nations as well

[corbettkroehler]

103. TimCanova.com

I agree with the faith leaders, naturally, but the best thing all of us can do is support Tim Canova, DWS' primary challenger. He has a real shot at defeating her in the primary, especially if Sanders is the presidential nominee.

I have donated to his campaign more than once, most recently in his effort to obtain his rightful access to the party's voter file.

http://TimCanova.com

[snowy owl]

105. Ok -I gave. Keeping reading how DWS isn't sharing database. She's so corrupt!

The whole dem party is corrupt. I see it more and more.

[libodem]

108. .

[Betty Karlson]

109. DINO-Debbie is vile by any faith's standards. She must go NOW.