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edhopper

(33,616 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:37 AM Mar 2016

Cavuto (of all people) nails Hatch on his SCOTUS bullshit.

In an interview Fox Business' Neil Cavuto says what I have been waiting for someone in the media to say about this "not politicizing" BS the GOP, and especially Hatch has been shoveling.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-cavuto-orrin-hatch-supreme-court

The main point is this:

"It's always politicized, senator," Cavuto hit back. "It's always politicized. And by that math you would just rule out the last year of any Congress, of any senator, of any president for getting stuff done."


That should be the response of the Dems and the Media to this crap.
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Cavuto (of all people) nails Hatch on his SCOTUS bullshit. (Original Post) edhopper Mar 2016 OP
Do the job we are paying you for, Republicans AxionExcel Mar 2016 #1
Hatch is the reason edhopper Mar 2016 #2
Saving our supplements moonbeam23 Mar 2016 #3
No edhopper Mar 2016 #5
Yes it did moonbeam23 Mar 2016 #8
Ther is no way elljay Mar 2016 #9
That is not what happened at all edhopper Mar 2016 #16
You still cant make claims that havent been proven 7962 Mar 2016 #12
actually you can edhopper Mar 2016 #14
I do know a few folks who've had bad problems taking too much of certain things 7962 Mar 2016 #24
It can be stopped AFTER edhopper Mar 2016 #25
Senator Orrin "UpperdownVote Hatch gets" his comeuppance. yellowcanine Mar 2016 #4
NPR interviewed Hatch this morning - totally failed to do the job that bullwinkle428 Mar 2016 #6
Same thing on PBS last night edhopper Mar 2016 #7
Those "liberal" media outlets have been captives of Koch contributions for years... Human101948 Mar 2016 #10
Doesn't 'NPR' mean 'Nice Polite Republicans'? truebrit71 Mar 2016 #15
I saw that whole interview. He didnt let up on him at all. 7962 Mar 2016 #11
It a sad day when Fox does a better job edhopper Mar 2016 #27
Bamboozling the Masses houston16revival Mar 2016 #13
And yet Cavuto edhopper Mar 2016 #17
Will he be doing it houston16revival Mar 2016 #18
I think you are missing the point edhopper Mar 2016 #19
I think you are not understanding the media landscape houston16revival Mar 2016 #20
that is a valid point edhopper Mar 2016 #21
Yes true houston16revival Mar 2016 #22
There is also a mindset edhopper Mar 2016 #23
+10x houston16revival Mar 2016 #26

edhopper

(33,616 posts)
2. Hatch is the reason
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 09:57 AM
Mar 2016

the billion dollar supplement industry is unregulated.

And i am tired of no one challenging this Scotus bullshit he has been throwing. Hats off to Cavuto.

moonbeam23

(313 posts)
3. Saving our supplements
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:21 AM
Mar 2016

is the ONLY thing that zombie has ever done right...

Maybe that is why it seems like he is going to last forever!

edhopper

(33,616 posts)
5. No
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:37 AM
Mar 2016

it allows makers to push any bogus crap without any regulation.
It was a horrible law and did not "save supplements"

moonbeam23

(313 posts)
8. Yes it did
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:48 AM
Mar 2016

Big pharma was pushing to make EVERYTHING prescription only...how much to you think you would pay for a bottle of vitamin d-3 for example?? That happened in Germany and the price of good natural health skyrocketed. You just have to be careful and buy from trusted and proven sources. (not walmart)

edhopper

(33,616 posts)
16. That is not what happened at all
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:34 PM
Mar 2016

it removed supplements from effective regulation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_Supplement_Health_and_Education_Act_of_1994

"The deal that DSHEA and NCCAM made with the public was this: Let the supplement industry have free reign [sic] to market untested products with unsupported claims, and then we’ll fund reliable studies to arm the public with scientific information so they can make good decisions for themselves. This “experiment” (really just a gift to the supplement industry) has been a dismal failure. The result has been an explosion of the supplement industry flooding the marketplace with useless products and false claims."[15]

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
12. You still cant make claims that havent been proven
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:23 PM
Mar 2016

lots of stuff gets taken off the shelf for that

edhopper

(33,616 posts)
14. actually you can
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:32 PM
Mar 2016

it has to be proven harmful to be taken off.

"The 1994 Dietary Supplement Act does not require that dietary supplements (defined broadly to include many substances, such as herbs and amino acids, that have no nutritive value) be shown to be safe or effective before they are marketed. The FDA does not scrutinize a dietary supplement before it enters the marketplace. The agency is permitted to restrict a substance if it poses a 'significant and unreasonable risk' under the conditions of use on the label or as commonly consumed...Congress has shown little interest in protecting consumers from the hazards of dietary supplements, let alone from the fraudulent claims that are made, since its members apparently believe that few of these products place people in real danger. Nor does the public understand how potentially dangerous these products can be."[18]
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
24. I do know a few folks who've had bad problems taking too much of certain things
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:00 PM
Mar 2016

ANYTHING in excess is gonna do some damage, but some of the "natural" stuff out there can damage organs if you're not careful.
There was one pulled not long ago but i cant remember what it was.

I think there should be some policing of any claims made about healing 7 the like. Look at shark cartilage and the claims about cancer. I think that was stopped

edhopper

(33,616 posts)
25. It can be stopped AFTER
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:22 PM
Mar 2016

if damage is shown. Also blatantly false MEDICAL clams can be stopped. But the Hatch bill removed most of the regulation on supplements.
The Hatch bill was bad for consumers.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
4. Senator Orrin "UpperdownVote Hatch gets" his comeuppance.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:32 AM
Mar 2016

Back in the day when G.W. Bush was president Orrin Hatch used to use the phrase "up or down vote" all the time in urging consideration for Bush appointments. He did it so often that some of us here started calling him Orrin "Upperdownvote" Hatch.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
10. Those "liberal" media outlets have been captives of Koch contributions for years...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:14 PM
Mar 2016

They constantly allow right wingers to go unchallenged.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
11. I saw that whole interview. He didnt let up on him at all.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:21 PM
Mar 2016

Further illustrating the stupidity, cavuto played a clip of hatch berating his fellow Republicans for stalling during the last confirmation of Garland.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
13. Bamboozling the Masses
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:30 PM
Mar 2016

Faux News has given a whiff of common sense and right-center
mainstreamism these last 2 or 3 months

Personally, I think it's all a smokescreen for ratings and in prep
for the election

Trump-Kelly is a false conflict. They're in each other's faces but
it's all to drive ratings and media attention

These little leftist jabs that Cavuto (usually refer to him as Cabutto, sorry)
gave to Hatch? Here's how I see it:

They go a little left now to appear fair, and draw in more viewers

By late September or October 1 they move the slant hard right and catch
the wavering undecideds to vote GOP

Manipulation

Seems to me CBS in 1980s Rather heyday used to move left a tad at election time

Or I could just be listening closer when the final round begins

edhopper

(33,616 posts)
19. I think you are missing the point
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:40 PM
Mar 2016

this isn't about how good Cavuto or Fox business is.
It's that FBN, of all places, is the only Media outlet to call Hatch on this BS he is throwing and to expose his asinine argument for what it is.

It's the content of the argument, not the source.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
20. I think you are not understanding the media landscape
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 12:47 PM
Mar 2016

as I explained in my original post

But sometimes media outlets go countertrend to their slant

So to me the argument while important is secondary to the source

If the same argument were on Ring Of Fire Radio i wouldn't think twice about it

But from Cavuto it's an eyepopper to me at least, for not being a softball
to one of their GOP icons

houston16revival

(953 posts)
22. Yes true
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:30 PM
Mar 2016

we just see the same thing from different angles

The blend of journalism and entertainment profitability has created
all sorts of muddled financial incentives

Objectivity? it's muted at best most of the time

edhopper

(33,616 posts)
23. There is also a mindset
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:53 PM
Mar 2016

that the Republicans are the "serious adults' no matter how much they act like petulant children.

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