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7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:16 AM Mar 2016

Oh happy day. It is DST again. So on Monday morning

everyone due to be at work at 7:30 am will be just fine. Please just try to work through that just Friday, just a couple of days ago it was 6:30 am.

Honestly when are we going to get sick enough of this stupid manipulation for no good damned reason that we call a halt to "springing" forward an hour every March and then "falling" back an hour in October? F this!!

Apologize for lack of coherent msg. DST, F it.

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7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
2. I know! You guys are the smart ones in this game.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:40 AM
Mar 2016

Have envied you for many years now.

Please help the rest of us end this nightmare.

Thks in advance.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
4. Funny thing... I just moved back to AZ.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:56 AM
Mar 2016

Years ago when I first left - moved to Texas - was completely unaware of DST.... I was an AZ boy, never knew it. Always did seem kinda funky to me...

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
6. Well I guess I have to give it to you there?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:57 AM
Mar 2016

Still trying to figure it out at my age!

Let me see, I can't.

The clock says it is 10pm. On Saturday night what was 9pm is now 10pm. Color me confused.
How exactly is it I get more daylight ?

Stop f'ing with Mother Nature.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
7. Not to delicate dear one, why do we bother to or for
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:02 AM
Mar 2016

that matter why do we do it, period? Not about being too fragile at all.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
11. According to fortune magazine, it's because the Chamber of Commerce says it makes us shop more
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:39 AM
Mar 2016
http://fortune.com/2016/03/12/daylight-saving-time-effects/
(at the bottom of the article)

...So if DST doesn’t actually save energy, or improve productivity, why do we have it? According to Downing, it boils down to shopping time. “Since 1915, the principal supporter of daylight saving in the United States has been the Chamber of Commerce on behalf of small business and retailers,” Downing told WNYC, NYC’s public radio station. “The Chamber understood that if you give workers more sunlight at the end of the day they’ll stop and shop on their way home.”

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
10. How DST affects health and poductivity
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:31 AM
Mar 2016

Health http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/11/health/daylight-saving-time-health-effects/

(CNN)Daylight saving time is Sunday, and losing sleep after clocks "spring forward" an hour could be more than just an annoyance. This small time shift can significantly raise the risk of health-related issues.

How to best prepare for time change

How to best prepare for time change 01:00
A recent study found that the overall rate for stroke was 8% higher in the two days after daylight saving time. Cancer victims were 25% more likely to have a stroke during that time, and people older than 65 were 20% more likely to have a stroke.

The researchers, based in Finland, compared the rate of stroke in more than 3,000 people hospitalized the week after a daylight saving time shift to the rate of stroke in more than 11,000 people hospitalized two weeks before or after the week of transition.

"Stroke risk is highest in the morning hours," Dr. Jori Ruuskanen, study author from the University of Turku, said in an email. "Previous studies have also shown that the disruption of the circadian clock due to other reasons (e.g. due to rotating shift work) and sleep fragmentation are associated with an increased risk of stroke. However, we did not know whether stroke risk is affected by DST transitions. What is common in these situations is the disturbed sleep cycle, while the immediate mechanisms for the increased risk are unknown at the moment.


Pocuctivity http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2014/03/06/daylight-saving-time-at-what-cost/the-economic-toll-of-daylight-saving-time

Daylight saving time means it’s time to change the clocks and deal with the hassle of readjusting your body clock. Individuals may or may not like this meddling, but our research makes clear that businesses are hurt by it.

Our daily rhythm is largely driven by clocks, with many of us starting work at a given hour or trying to get children to school before the bell rings. Even though the clocks change at an innocuous time of day – 2 a.m. on Sunday – our bodies do not immediately adjust. Instead, most people wait to adjust until Sunday night and Monday morning, leaving them short on sleep by about 40 minutes when they go to work on Monday. That may sound rather benign, but at least two of our studies highlight the organizational costs stemming from the loss.

After the spring time change, there are more and worse workplace injuries, and workers tend to dawdle more on the Internet. In a study of mining injuries across the U.S., we found a spike in workplace injuries of nearly 6 percent on the Monday following the shift to daylight saving time. An even greater cause for concern is that the severity of these injuries, as measured by days of work lost because of the injuries, increased by a whopping 67 percent, representing 2,600 more workdays lost, simply because of injuries experienced on that one day.

So the time change is bad for miners (and mining companies), but what about for the rest of us? In a follow-up study we found that workers tend to “cyberloaf” – that is, they use their computers and internet access to engage in activities that are not related to work – at a substantially higher rate on the Monday following the shift to daylight saving time than on other Mondays. What’s more, we found that for every hour of interrupted sleep the previous night, participants in our lab cyberloafed for 20 percent of their assigned task. When extrapolated to a full day’s work, that would mean daylight saving time and lost sleep can result in substantial productivity losses. In fact, a recent estimate of this effect put the cost to the American economy at over $434 million annually, simply from a subtle shift of the clocks. Unfortunately, we don’t regain that productivity when the fall change adds an hour to our schedules.

Given these findings, it’s increasingly clear that there are substantial business costs from the time change. In fact, we have conducted additional research that suggests workers with inadequate sleep are likely to be less ethical, less morally aware, more prejudiced and more apt to engage in abusive supervision. So does daylight saving time do more harm than good? We’ve seen substantial costs, without any benefit.


 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
12. One more hour of daylight during the work week free's up your weekend so you can go fishing!
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:41 AM
Mar 2016

What's not to like?

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
14. I'm with you
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:03 AM
Mar 2016

Today I woke up late because it's dark in the morning again after months of the sunrise being gradually earlier every day.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
15. but some monomaniacal crank slapped a flag on a pamphlet! what more argument do you need?!
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:34 PM
Mar 2016


that's why all the schools have Rowbowtham's flat Earth alongside the globe, why we poured $100B into his airship that floats up and lets the disc turn beneath it, and have converted everything to Dvorak and Esperanto

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
17. I was thinking about this, and realized that it would cost a lot money to not do it...
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:58 PM
Mar 2016

... at least for Spring sports like baseball, soccer, and track. Until the switch, many of them wouldn't have been able to complete practices without adding lots of lights, and, thus, use of electricity.

I don't really like the switch, either, but we'd have to switch up the schedule to make it make more sense in other ways, if we dumped it.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
18. Please take a look at post #10.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:04 PM
Mar 2016

Appears according to studies cited we could probably better afford cost of lighting playing fields......

Thanks to all that have responded with such interesting and informative info.

I want to stop it. But that is just me. Flipping back and forth, springing forward, falling back is insane.

We could turn off all the store lights that stay on all night to make up for cost of lighting fields to play on....

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
19. Yeah, I know about those studies.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:05 PM
Mar 2016

When I dug into them, however, items like the one I just brought up were not a part of the equation, and it's not a closed system.

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