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Baobab

(4,667 posts)
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:52 AM Mar 2016

Why are we sacrificing potentially millions of jobs to keep health care injustice? Lets discuss this

because it needs to see the light of day.


I've already posted how trade deals are the real reason our health care policy space is so constrained, however, there are two sides of this deal, the other side being a huge global temping jobs scheme..

Yes, the pending deals indeed are a trade, a trade thats been in the makings for two decades, involving at least five trade deals some already signed,- some have been pending since the 90s, and the carrot being dangled in front of developing countries in part is jobs, the ability to win contracts in competitive bidding for government procurement and use that as a way to establish their firms in developed countries, where they could employ a great many people on a temporary basis, no single job would keep any single employee in the developed country more than a few years and their intent would never be to stay, just do their two or three year stint and go back to their employer possibly to work several years somewhere else.

This is the "Mode Four" part of the long ago signed GATS and the 3 pending trade deals - especially TiSA, which includes all service sectors and modes of supply by defauly, seem to use the huge number of service jobs here - there are agreat many millions of service jobs here, with the best service jobs, being in fields like nursing, teaching, IT, and so on. That experience is likely to be a powerful draw. the WTO and these deals have gradually become more and more deeply involved in government procurement - competitive bidding - typically using Internet e-portals, which result in firms from many countries bidding and the lowest bidding firms, typically firms which specialize, getting much of the work.

Like with minority and women owned businesses, firms from least developed countries get special ermission to discriminate in certain ways, much of we consider to be anti-discriminatory is framed by the WTO as discrimination!!!

The US visa program has long had a trade related visa, the L1 - So in a sense, I think we'll see a lot more use of it, effectively a loophole, the fact that as long as its temporary, it is not immigration, to allow it, and a committee at WTO has been working for over a decade on "disciplines on domestic regulation" to make countries rules facilitate trade in services, (also an agreement to do that is being proposed by India)

Speaking of India, this news story about the solar energy case, from the other day, perhaps gives us a look at how the problem will likely end up being framed in the US media and how it will be structured legally. Indeed this likely is a message - more about the US and the programs progress, as well as a message to disregard some US political candidates The deal is still on.. I think this is saying.

Its my strong feeling that thats whats preventing affordable health care, and the treating of our techers with the respect they deserve, this global scheme, based on the using of all those jobs as bait.. I think.. Also the trade eals systematically block the New Deal type programs as well for similar reasons. Spending here in the US, even on infrastructure jobs here, will not necessarily lead to employment of US construction workers, it could just as likely if not more likely o result in the hiring of international staffing firms employees who might be trated basically as we treat our lowest paid workers, but, they could be vey high skil workers, (thats I think a requirement of L1 visas - that they be skilled )

If the dishonesty about the trade connection to health care is any indication, the American people will never be told about the real reason the potentially millions of albeit skilled foreign workers are here, depressing all wages, instead we'll likely be told other reasons are the cause and I see a very bad and ugly situation developing for our millions of Americans who are legal immigrants, and maybe even native born Americans of foreign descent who grew up in multicultural families. Who would be in the same position as everybody else, seeing their wages decline.

The goal of this is likely to push down wages for the country as a whole without impacting the real problem of economic inequality.

And that is not a solution to anything and its likely to cause huge problems as cynical people exploit the lack of knowledge to divide the country.

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Why are we sacrificing potentially millions of jobs to keep health care injustice? Lets discuss this (Original Post) Baobab Mar 2016 OP
meh. tazkcmo Mar 2016 #1
K&R jwirr Mar 2016 #2
'Standstill' in 1998 trade deal will result in rollback of all the good in ACA by WTO once they get Baobab Mar 2016 #3

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
1. meh.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:03 PM
Mar 2016

The ACA is fine as is. The insurance companies are making money, their rates are rising, the riff raff are dying. What's the problem?



Oh, and single payer is an 80 year former Democratic Party platform plank that was removed and called a pony by our Inevitable One. It's just too gash darn hard!

http://www.politico.com/video/2015/11/clinton-invokes-her-past-to-dismiss-sanders-on-health-care-the-revolution-never-came-033494

Yay Insurance Profits!

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
3. 'Standstill' in 1998 trade deal will result in rollback of all the good in ACA by WTO once they get
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 12:53 PM
Mar 2016

jurisdiction. (Which may even have already happened due to purchase of a US insurance firm by any foreign holding company.)

Basically, we signed a big deal, the WTO General Agreement on Trade in Services which was expanded with the quite radical so called Understanding on Commitments in Financial Services in 1998, which contains a clause entitled "Standstill" which sets the level then as the limit for any regulations which are deemed nonconforming to the GATS agreement, and numerous provisions of the ACA are likely intentionally non-compliant making them guaranteed to be deemed so and we can then be compelled by WTO to eliminate them just as we were compelled to repeal the Glass-Steagall Act for the same reason.

Proof?- Watch this episode of DemocracyNow Remember that health insurance is explicitly listed as a financial service so its clearly under GATS rules and the two part test at GATS Article I:3 test (which is also the definition of scope in the other trade deals) clearly does not exempt it

"'a service supplied in the exercise of governmental authority' means any service which is supplied neither on a commercial basis, nor in competition with one or more service suppliers."


Also, look at the Achmea v. Slovak Republic trade arbitration case.. (you can read it on italaw.com )
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